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#1 S V Choong

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 12:49 PM

Seems that North Korean officials (possibly including Kim Jong Un) is heading to Singapore onboard Air China's B747-400 registration B-2447.

 

B-2447 departed Beijing and headed into FNJ (Pyongyang).  Now she is on her way from FNJ to SIN (routed via PEK).

 

Check it out here

https://www.flightra...CCA061/11ac2ef5



#2 MIR

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 03:25 PM

Air Koryo IL-62 (P-885) is currently off the coast of Mersing, heading south.

Edited by MIR, 10 June 2018 - 03:26 PM.


#3 S V Choong

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 03:46 PM

Air Koryo IL-62 (P-885) is currently off the coast of Mersing, heading south.

 

P-885 is VIP configured, so it is likely that the leader is inside. 

The CA B747-400 is not VIP configured, so it may have been a flight to ferry the other officials, while Kim Jong Un might be inside the IL-62M.


Can anyone here track the movement of Trump's Boeing VC-25 (747-200B) Air Force One?



#4 jahur

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 03:56 PM

 
P-885 is VIP configured, so it is likely that the leader is inside. 
The CA B747-400 is not VIP configured, so it may have been a flight to ferry the other officials, while Kim Jong Un might be inside the IL-62M.

Can anyone here track the movement of Trump's Boeing VC-25 (747-200B) Air Force One?

There's an E4B at Subang now. Anyways the dprk convoy includes an Air China's A330-200 as well so bassically more than 3 widebodies aircrafts deployed.

#5 S V Choong

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 04:12 PM

http://www.abc.net.a...r-china/9855232

There's an E4B at Subang now. Anyways the dprk convoy includes an Air China's A330-200 as well so bassically more than 3 widebodies aircrafts deployed.


What is the role of the E-4B in this case? Strategic command post of the US President?

#6 jahur

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 04:16 PM

http://www.abc.net.a...r-china/9855232

What is the role of the E-4B in this case? Strategic command post of the US President?

No idea but usually for Air force one they'll be another VC-25 around nearby to extract the president out incase the main 747 gets compromised or broken. The E4B is more likely a mobile post for the sec of defense but can also be used by the president if the spare VC-25 cant pick the president up as well.

 

So far SZB will be accommodating an E4B, C-17A, and C-23A .


Edited by jahur, 10 June 2018 - 04:19 PM.


#7 S V Choong

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 04:54 PM

https://www.google.c...d-asia-44429240

Kim Jong Un arrived by Air Chinas B747-400, B-2447

#8 BC Tam

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 05:27 PM

Apparently the Supreme Leader did not want to be seen arriving in a smaller narrowbody (IL-62) when it's a given that POTUS will drop in on the big mamma AF1
So he rather get a lift on Comrade Xi's ride instead, said comrade being all too keen to remind all that he is paying attention to all that is unfolding in his backyard
That is what I read la .....

#9 S V Choong

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 07:08 PM

Apparently the Supreme Leader did not want to be seen arriving in a smaller narrowbody (IL-62) when it's a given that POTUS will drop in on the big mamma AF1
So he rather get a lift on Comrade Xi's ride instead, said comrade being all too keen to remind all that he is paying attention to all that is unfolding in his backyard
That is what I read la .....

Haha except Comrade Xis ride is no longer the good old B747-400. B747-8i rego B-2479 (Air China) is the new VIP transport for the Chinese commies. It seems Comrade Xi is not even letting young Kim to use their older VIP toy, B-2472, a B747-400 in Air China livery.

Heard their IL-62M is not allowed to land in The Lion City? If they wanna size up POTUS, they should consider be the first A380-800 ACJ operator...

Edited by S V Choong, 10 June 2018 - 07:11 PM.


#10 flee

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 07:55 PM

I think it was a commercial charter - so a standard plane was used by Kim. The VIP plane may not be available to non Communist Party of China people!



#11 BC Tam

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 08:18 PM

I think it was a commercial charter - so a standard plane was used by Kim. The VIP plane may not be available to non Communist Party of China people!

If what was reported earlier about the PLAF providing fighter(s) escort to SL Kimmy's ride (whatever equipment that may be) proves true, it's more than likely they may forgo that 'Chinese Commie only' rule as a side consideration :)

However, if the North Koreans had decided to go cheap on the charter rates, you get what your cash gets ....... :D



#12 leon t

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 09:59 PM

Looking at it, of course Kim would fly on the Air China 747 as that is much newer than his VIP soviet plane.  Believed too that China have offered or Kim have requested China's assistance in providing the 747 and likely that Kim or NK is not paying for it - just like for Kim stay in St Regis is picked by by the S'pore govt.



#13 S V Choong

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 11:54 PM

However, if the North Koreans had decided to go cheap on the charter rates, you get what your cash gets ....... :D


Come to think of it, riding on P.R.Chinas metal is probably the safest bet for young Kim. If you check his routing, the flight tried to stay on Chinese airspace and Vietnamese airspace (another socialist nation) for as long as possible.

It goes to show that China is still influential when it comes to the business of their North Korean brethren. It is quite possible that China is footing the bill for the 747-400 transport. By the way, B-2447, a 23 year old B747-400, has headed back to Beijing after delivering young Kim to Singapore.

Trump has arrived in Singapore on the same day but at night.

Looking at it, of course Kim would fly on the Air China 747 as that is much newer than his VIP soviet plane.  Believed too that China have offered or Kim have requested China's assistance in providing the 747 and likely that Kim or NK is not paying for it - just like for Kim stay in St Regis is picked by by the S'pore govt.


His IL-62M (P-885) has arrived in Singapore too.

#14 BC Tam

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Posted 11 June 2018 - 11:21 AM

It goes to show that China is still influential when it comes to the business of their North Korean brethren.....

Indeed  :)

 

This from the South China Morning Post …..

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https://www.scmp.com...-view-june-2018



#15 S V Choong

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Posted 11 June 2018 - 07:07 PM

https://www.flightra...ngapore-summit/

#16 S V Choong

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Posted 11 June 2018 - 07:37 PM

Looks like Singapore might foot the bill

https://www.washingt...1eaf_story.html

#17 leon t

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Posted 11 June 2018 - 09:18 PM

its confirmed by Singapore Foeign Minister that S'pore govt will puck up the tab for Kim's stay and entourage.  S'pore is spending S$20  million to host the summit according to PM Lee, as S'pore contribution to world peace.



#18 S V Choong

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Posted 11 June 2018 - 11:09 PM

its confirmed by Singapore Foeign Minister that S'pore govt will puck up the tab for Kim's stay and entourage.  S'pore is spending S$20  million to host the summit according to PM Lee, as S'pore contribution to world peace.

 

It's a good PR for Singapore as well. 

 

Mr. Trump no doubt will pay for his stay via Uncle Sam.



#19 BC Tam

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 10:35 AM

Well, Dotard and Little Rocket Man appear quite cordial towards each other - so far  :)



#20 flee

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 10:48 AM

Well if things go wrong, they can be fed to the sharks at the aquarium....   :finger:






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