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Need advise on KUL - CPT - KUL


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#1 Hisham Albakri

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 03:10 PM

Guys - I have sort of done my research on this but would greatly appreciate comments from you on the options available in terms of airlines, cheapest fare, total flight duration, etc for the a potential trip of mine to Cape Town which is currently still in planning stage help.gif We intend to spend a week in Cape Town during the school holidays in August 2007 (yes, I know, it's still a long way to go) smile.gif

#2 KK Lee

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 03:22 PM


Can recommend you where to have nice food in Cape Town.
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#3 Seth K

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 04:28 PM

SIA: MYR 3,054.00


#4 Pieter C.

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 04:49 PM

Given you're a Flying Blue member, you ought to fly KLM laugh.gif

KUL-AMS daily KL0810 2315-0535* 744
AMS-CPT daily KL0597 1005-2135 772
CPT-AMS daily KL0598 2325-1110* 772
AMS-KUL daily KL0809 2100-1440* 744

* = next day.

Pay a visit to 'wonderful' AMS between 0598-0809 or for a few days yahoo.gif

You should book early to avoid disappointment for good seats/cheap rates as both stretches quite popular ohmy.gif

Let us know the final 'outcome' wink.gif

#5 Azman MN

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 04:55 PM

I can't really help you with plane tickets, but I can help you with the "what to do in Cape Town" part. I lived in South Africa for a year so know most places.

Are you only going for a week? Wonder if you can get a ticket to fly into a town called George, and then from there drive slowly to Cape Town. George is in the garden route, and in my opinion, it is a must see if you are in the Cape Town area. If you take a Star Alliance flight, you might be able to get a ticket via SAA that takes you to George, and back from CPT.



#6 Hisham Albakri

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 05:15 PM

QUOTE(Pieter C. @ Dec 7 2006, 04:49 PM) View Post

Given you're a Flying Blue member, you ought to fly KLM laugh.gif

KUL-AMS daily KL0810 2315-0535* 744
AMS-CPT daily KL0597 1005-2135 772
CPT-AMS daily KL0598 2325-1110* 772
AMS-KUL daily KL0809 2100-1440* 744

* = next day.

Pay a visit to 'wonderful' AMS between 0598-0809 or for a few days yahoo.gif

You should book early to avoid disappointment for good seats/cheap rates as both stretches quite popular ohmy.gif

Let us know the final 'outcome' wink.gif


Pieter - This option was definitely explored when I did a 'mock booking' online recently clapping.gif There were 2 negative points about flying KL to CPT via AMS though. Firstly and the most obvious one is the total flight time of approximately 24 hours for each way sad.gif (yes, I know this could be a non issue if I could break the journey and visit 'wonderful' AMS). Secondly (and surprisingly) the price quoted was almost 3 times more ohmy.gif than SQ's quotation (what Seth wrote earlier was about the right price for SQ). It was also slightly cheaper if I chose the MH code-shared flight to AMS instead of the KL one huh.gif


QUOTE(Azman MN @ Dec 7 2006, 04:55 PM) View Post

I can't really help you with plane tickets, but I can help you with the "what to do in Cape Town" part. I lived in South Africa for a year so know most places.

Are you only going for a week? Wonder if you can get a ticket to fly into a town called George, and then from there drive slowly to Cape Town. George is in the garden route, and in my opinion, it is a must see if you are in the Cape Town area. If you take a Star Alliance flight, you might be able to get a ticket via SAA that takes you to George, and back from CPT.


Thanks for your suggestion Azman. It has 2 coincide with the Msian school hols as 3 of my children are already school-going come next year. Will consider the George route as well ... flying SAA, albeit domestically is tempting yahoo.gif The flight from KUL has to be to JNB then smile.gif

#7 Pieter C.

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 06:02 PM

QUOTE(Hisham Albakri @ Dec 7 2006, 10:15 AM) View Post

. Secondly (and surprisingly) the price quoted was almost 3 times more ohmy.gif than SQ's quotation (what Seth wrote earlier was about the right price for SQ).


Hmmmmm, my system shows the cheapest option KUL-AMS-CPT v.v. as MYR4500.-- (min. 7 days/max. 1 month)...could be cheaper when booked via KLM-agent (which I don't know in Malaysia)...ofcourse, cannot beat the SQ-fare...

#8 Hisham Albakri

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 06:12 PM

QUOTE(Pieter C. @ Dec 7 2006, 06:02 PM) View Post

Hmmmmm, my system shows the cheapest option KUL-AMS-CPT v.v. as MYR4500.-- (min. 7 days/max. 1 month)...could be cheaper when booked via KLM-agent (which I don't know in Malaysia)...ofcourse, cannot beat the SQ-fare...


MYR4,500?!? ohmy.gif nea.gif I'll do another mock booking later ...

#9 Seng Lim

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 08:25 PM

Since your trip falls on Aug 2007, my recommendation would be to grab the special bargains airfares during MAS Travel Fair 2007 on Feb next year or MATTA Fair on Mar 2007 (where all airlines will offer special fares).
Since Aug next year still a long way to go, I doubt any airlines gonna offer any special bargains fares at this moment.

#10 Seth K

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 08:57 PM

QUOTE(Seng Lim @ Dec 7 2006, 06:25 AM) View Post

Since your trip falls on Aug 2007, my recommendation would be to grab the special bargains airfares during MAS Travel Fair 2007 on Feb next year or MATTA Fair on Mar 2007 (where all airlines will offer special fares).
Since Aug next year still a long way to go, I doubt any airlines gonna offer any special bargains fares at this moment.

Not to mention that MH will decrese their fare significantly neext year! Yeah, I think it's too early to book, early next year will be good enough

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 10:41 PM

fly MH, most convenient smile.gif

#12 Seng Lim

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Posted 08 December 2006 - 12:07 AM

Yes, MH is always the most convenient as it's direct flight, good for family who travels with kids.
Once a year MAS travel fair on Feb (date havent annouced yet) is the best time to get cheap fares.
Second chance would be MATTA fair which will be held from 16 - 18 March 2007 in PWTC.


#13 Azman MN

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Posted 08 December 2006 - 12:59 AM

Most tourist will arrive in JNB and catch the connecting flight to George or Port Elizabeth. Then rent a car and drive slowly through the garden route. This is a very beautiful stretch between Port Elizabeth and Mosel Bay. George is right in between these two towns, and 3 or four days should be enough. There is a museum in Mosel Bay with lots of references to the same Portuguese and Dutch dudes who were in Malacca in the 16th century - your kids will find it fascinating if they have already had some history lessons. From Mossel bay it is a 4 hour drive to Cape Town. You could also stay on a game farm on the way to watch some wildlife and lots of Osterich...

Then another 3 days in Cape Town should be enough, and fly back from there. Some people do the trip the other way around, i.e., start in Cape Town...

But to do the above you do need 7 solid days...

For Europeans flying *A, like LH or LX, or SAA itself, the ticket cost the same whether they fly to JNB only or extend to CPT/George...



#14 Keith T

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Posted 08 December 2006 - 04:05 AM

QUOTE(Azman MN @ Dec 8 2006, 03:59 AM) View Post

For Europeans flying *A, like LH or LX, or SAA itself, the ticket cost the same whether they fly to JNB only or extend to CPT/George...


I don't think he can fly SAA from KUL - he'd have to detour to HKG.

If you get a *A ticket (either TG or SQ, but SQ has a direct flight to CPT; or LH via BKK and FRA wink.gif), you can get very cheap SAA tickets within Africa as you'd be eligible for the *A African Air Pass.

But of course - since u're an FB member, check out the KLM option. Don't book on to the MH codeshare or you won't earn status mileage (is that right Pieter - since there's a rule change some time ago?). KLM to CPT via AMS yields lots of miles. And remember - a transit is anything less than a 24 hour stop. So flight schedule pending, if you want to overnight in AMS and catch up with Pieter you still can without paying the airport tax. Just make sure your TA puts an 'xAMS' instead of an 'oAMS', and leave AMS within 24 hours of arrival. There's a very nice airport Sheraton at AMS. wink.gif

I'm actually very tempted to visit South Africa myself - but quite hard to fit in with all the other places I also want to go to. Such tough choices to make! tongue.gif

Edited by Keith T, 08 December 2006 - 04:15 AM.


#15 Darren Liew

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Posted 08 December 2006 - 05:38 AM

QUOTE(KK Lee @ Dec 7 2006, 06:22 PM) View Post

Can recommend you where to have nice food in Cape Town.
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Cape Town`s waterfront! Good food and wonderful views! Loved it there!


Hope you guys have a good time there!

Best regards,
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#16 Sim Lim Shen

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Posted 08 December 2006 - 08:19 AM

QUOTE(Keith T @ Dec 8 2006, 05:05 AM) View Post

I don't think he can fly SAA from KUL - he'd have to detour to HKG.

If you get a *A ticket (either TG or SQ, but SQ has a direct flight to CPT; or LH via BKK and FRA wink.gif), you can get very cheap SAA tickets within Africa as you'd be eligible for the *A African Air Pass.

But of course - since u're an FB member, check out the KLM option. Don't book on to the MH codeshare or you won't earn status mileage (is that right Pieter - since there's a rule change some time ago?). KLM to CPT via AMS yields lots of miles. And remember - a transit is anything less than a 24 hour stop. So flight schedule pending, if you want to overnight in AMS and catch up with Pieter you still can without paying the airport tax. Just make sure your TA puts an 'xAMS' instead of an 'oAMS', and leave AMS within 24 hours of arrival. There's a very nice airport Sheraton at AMS. wink.gif

I'm actually very tempted to visit South Africa myself - but quite hard to fit in with all the other places I also want to go to. Such tough choices to make! tongue.gif

Keith,

You really are a travel agent yourself. I doubt the travel agent I use is as knowledgeable as you are in terms of routing options and FFP requirements. good.gif

#17 KK Lee

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Posted 08 December 2006 - 09:33 AM

QUOTE(Darren Liew @ Dec 8 2006, 05:38 AM) View Post

Cape Town`s waterfront! Good food and wonderful views! Loved it there!
Hope you guys have a good time there!

Best regards,
Darren Liew


Waterfront is idea for tourists.

If budget allowed, recommend ‘La Colombe’ in Constantia and French restaurants in Franschhoek!

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#18 Pieter C.

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Posted 08 December 2006 - 01:32 PM

QUOTE(Keith T @ Dec 7 2006, 09:05 PM) View Post

Don't book on to the MH codeshare or you won't earn status mileage (is that right Pieter - since there's a rule change some time ago


AFAIK you can earn FB mileage on KL4102 (which is MH017) AMS-KUL (it says "only on selected stretches" for MH and this is one) good.gif


#19 Hisham Albakri

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Posted 08 December 2006 - 06:23 PM

QUOTE(Seng Lim @ Dec 7 2006, 08:25 PM) View Post

Since your trip falls on Aug 2007, my recommendation would be to grab the special bargains airfares during MAS Travel Fair 2007 on Feb next year or MATTA Fair on Mar 2007 (where all airlines will offer special fares).
Since Aug next year still a long way to go, I doubt any airlines gonna offer any special bargains fares at this moment.


Noted and thanks good.gif


QUOTE(Fendy @ Dec 7 2006, 10:41 PM) View Post

fly MH, most convenient smile.gif


I know. Furthermore the transit at JNB is only about 1 hour + smile.gif My only concern is the price especially since it will be for 3 Adults, 3 Children and 1 Infant sad.gif

QUOTE(Azman MN @ Dec 8 2006, 12:59 AM) View Post

For Europeans flying *A, like LH or LX, or SAA itself, the ticket cost the same whether they fly to JNB only or extend to CPT/George...


Thanks again for your tips and suggestions drinks.gif Talking about George; isn't this the town which the late SA cricket captain Hansie Cronje died in an air crash a few years back huh.gif


QUOTE(Sim Lim Shen @ Dec 8 2006, 08:19 AM) View Post

Keith,

You really are a travel agent yourself. I doubt the travel agent I use is as knowledgeable as you are in terms of routing options and FFP requirements. good.gif


What about flying via the Middle East using any of the various airlines from that region pardon.gif


#20 Pieter C.

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Posted 08 December 2006 - 07:03 PM

QUOTE(Hisham Albakri @ Dec 8 2006, 11:23 AM) View Post

Talking about George; isn't this the town which the late SA cricket captain Hansie Cronje died in an air crash a few years back huh.gif
What about flying via the Middle East using any of the various airlines from that region pardon.gif


Yep, you're right about Hansie; it was George sad.gif

No FlyingBlue mileage on EK/QR and still involves a (long) stop-over ohmy.gif





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