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Services cut by QF groups by September 2008:

IN SUMMARY:

Among services to be cut :

  • QF MEL-NRT service
  • JQ SYD-KUL service
  • JQ CNS-NGO-KIX service
Services with reduced/change in frequency/capacity:

  • SYD-SGN changed from direct A330 flight to 5 weekly A320 flight stopover at DRW.
  • PER-CGK and PER-DPS services to be operated by JQ instead of QF
  • SYD-LAX service will be reduced from 17 weekly to 15 weekly when the A380 arrive.
  • New OOL-NRT flights by Jetstar.

Fresh from Qantas newsroom:

Qantas Announces International Schedule Changes

Sydney, 05 June 2008The Qantas Group today announced changes to its international services as it continues to manage the impact of high oil prices.

 

The Chief Executive Officer of Qantas, Mr Geoff Dixon, said the changes, which follow last week's announcement regarding domestic services, included market exits, capacity cuts and the replacement of Qantas services with Jetstar services on a number of routes.

 

Mr Dixon said the cost of fuel had changed the way the Qantas Group had to do business over the next two years.

 

"We have to look closely at each individual market, including the number of frequencies we operate and which of our flying businesses is better suited to serve those destinations."

 

Mr Dixon said Japan and South East Asia would be the most affected markets by the schedule changes.

 

"The Japan-Far North Queensland market has also been particularly difficult for Qantas for a number of years. At current fuel prices, the Group would lose more than $100 million operating to Japan under our existing schedule."

 

Mr Dixon said Qantas would engage the tourism industry at seeking better ways of offering viable options for inbound tourism into the future.

 

Mr Dixon said the changes to the Japan schedule included:

* the withdrawal of Qantas' thrice-weekly Melbourne-Tokyo (Narita) A330 return services from September 2008;

* a reduction in Qantas' Sydney-Tokyo (Narita) A330 return services from nine to seven return services per week from September 2008;

* Jetstar's withdrawal from the Cairns-Osaka-Nagoya route from December 2008;

* the replacement of Qantas' 14 weekly B767 Cairns-Tokyo (Narita) services with a daily Jetstar non-stop A330 two-class service from December 2008; and

* the introduction of new Gold Coast-Tokyo (Narita) services five times per week, operated by Jetstar with two-class A330s from December 2008, in addition to Jetstar's daily Sydney-Gold Coast-Osaka services.

 

Mr Dixon said that under the new schedules, the Qantas Group would continue to offer significant capacity - more than 11,500 seats per week - between Japan and Queensland.

 

To support the schedule changes, Jetstar would need to free up A330 aircraft and, as a result, would:

* withdraw from its Sydney-Kuala Lumpur operation to make available an A330 aircraft; and

* replace its existing three weekly A330 services that operated between Sydney and Ho Chi Minh City with five A320 return services on the new route of Sydney-Darwin-Ho Chi Minh City from September 2008.

 

He said Jetstar would also replace Qantas on:

* the Perth-Denpasar route, with up to four Jetstar A320 services taking over from Qantas' B737-800 services from December 2008; and

* Perth-Jakarta, with three Jetstar A320 return services per week replacing the existing three Qantas B737-800 services from December 2008.

 

Mr Dixon said Qantas would close its pilot base in Cairns, with around 40 Cairns-based pilots returning to Sydney or other bases.

 

"Qantas will maintain its existing cabin crew base in Cairns to service domestic operations, and Jetstar will establish a new base for pilots and cabin crew in Perth from October," he said.

 

Mr Dixon said that as a result of the international schedule changes, there would be a small number of job losses in Cairns and Japan. These were in addition to those flagged in last week's announcement, which were expected to be in the low hundreds, and would also be managed initially on a voluntary basis.

 

He said in addition to the Asian flight changes, Qantas would reduce its B747-400 Sydney-Los Angeles services from 17 to 15 per week, following the commencement of A380 flights on the route at the end of the year.

 

"Using the larger A380s on a spread of our USA services will enable us to grow Melbourne-Los Angeles capacity and maintain our total current capacity levels from Australia to the USA."

 

Mr Dixon said Qantas had done everything possible to mitigate the effects of the schedule changes we have been forced to make.

 

"We will continue to work with individual markets and look for opportunities as conditions improve to address capacity issues and reinstate services where and when we can."

 

 

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what a joke, it looks like KUL is the butt of all jokes... most carriers that fly into KUL will definitely fly out!

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HA HA HA!!! So much for KUL is a world class hub la, best airport in the world la, KUL is the front runner for JQ's long haul hub la, tau-tau KUL yang first kena axed! Padan muka KUL, padan muka MAHB, padan muka Malaysia, padan muka kita semua hahaha! Sorry - emo!

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HA HA HA!!! So much for KUL is a world class hub la, best airport in the world la, KUL is the front runner for JQ's long haul hub la, tau-tau KUL yang first kena axed! Padan muka KUL, padan muka MAHB, padan muka Malaysia, padan muka kita semua hahaha! Sorry - emo!

Eh relak ah brudder...

 

HA HA HA!!! So much for KUL is a world class hub la, best airport in the world la, KUL is the front runner for JQ's long haul hub la, tau-tau KUL yang first kena axed! Padan muka KUL, padan muka MAHB, padan muka Malaysia, padan muka kita semua hahaha! Sorry - emo!

I suddenly thought of an old Sheila Majid song...

 

KAU DI DALAM EMOSI... INIIIIIIIII.......... :pardon:

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V devastating for the CNS tourism industry. :(

But alas such is the reality of the airline business...

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hahahah..what a joke. QF has never been interested in KUL..... this is not surprising at all.

 

just when u think KUL was doing well...news like this comes ...and it goes to show how KUL has and always will be a leisure destination.

 

we can probably forget about any major carriers making comebacks in this current climate of rising oil prices.

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Unless there is an economy boom in Malaysia, it is unlikely to see more foreign airlines serving KUL.

 

 

:drinks:

 

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Sad news really. All these talks and hopes about the possibility of KUL being Jetstar's hub (which I doubt anyway) have gone down the drain. Sigh.

 

Well, want to fly cheap to Australia? Fly with AK X lah! I'm sure TF is smiling.

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The biggest blow to this news really is the disappearance of KUL in QF group. It is only operated one year. MH continues to dominate the route, therefore, MH can charge the price as high as it can. The only hope is D7 to fill the gap.

 

QF ditches Japan routes and handed over to Jetstar as JQ have lower operating cost.

 

Two blows to Malaysia today. Petrol price increases and losing KUL as a potential hub by JQ.

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What a pitty..Another one bites the dust..

The reason they said they were dropping the route was because they needed the aircraft else where. Could this mean that pax figures to KUL on JQ are feasibly low?

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The main purpose of slashing KUL is to free up A330 for their Japan operations. So who knows when they receive their B787, they may resume KUL. Be a little optimistic

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It's simple, yield to KUL is very low that it is not worth flying in. These flights may be full, but the revenue per km is not good enough to justify that it can sustain and compete with other routes within JQ/QF network.

 

Similar to MAN routes from our region that was previously operated by MH, CX ( late 1990s) and QF ( once before). Another fine example LHR - KUL by BA, loads extremely good , but yield was really low.

 

Not forgetting the operating cost of these carriers may be high and normally the asian carriers would have better operating cost per km.

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It's simple, yield to KUL is very low that it is not worth flying in. These flights may be full, but the revenue per km is not good enough to justify that it can sustain and compete with other routes within JQ/QF network.

 

Similar to MAN routes from our region that was previously operated by MH, CX ( late 1990s) and QF ( once before). Another fine example LHR - KUL by BA, loads extremely good , but yield was really low.

 

Not forgetting the operating cost of these carriers may be high and normally the asian carriers would have better operating cost per km.

 

 

Apparently, the route is/was making money... it's just that with the present market conditions, the airline has to optmise the use of its fleets to SUSTAIN present level yields or minimise the downturn affect on the airline. This is a great time for QF to transfer a lot of its routes onto JQ - a plan that has been the undertone of the Qantas group for some time now - and thereby the requirement for aircraft to fill in potential higher yielding destinations. They don't have a very big fleet and with the 787 delay, there is little respite for the time being.. I agree though that in due time and once this oil makret speculation is over, there will again be JQ flights from Australia to Malaysia - competing with the likes of AirAsiaX.

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Apparently, the route is/was making money... it's just that with the present market conditions, the airline has to optmise the use of its fleets to SUSTAIN present level yields or minimise the downturn affect on the airline. This is a great time for QF to transfer a lot of its routes onto JQ - a plan that has been the undertone of the Qantas group for some time now - and thereby the requirement for aircraft to fill in potential higher yielding destinations. They don't have a very big fleet and with the 787 delay, there is little respite for the time being.. I agree though that in due time and once this oil makret speculation is over, there will again be JQ flights from Australia to Malaysia - competing with the likes of AirAsiaX.

 

Well if it does make money, the least thing they can do is changing the equipment to A320 like they do with SGN. They may make money, but the problem is how much? It may just simply like what others said, the yield simply lower than other destinations.

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Well if it does make money, the least thing they can do is changing the equipment to A320 like they do with SGN. They may make money, but the problem is how much? It may just simply like what others said, the yield simply lower than other destinations.

 

Lower yields or higher yields are all speculations as there are no official results from JQ or Qantas Group. If JQ intended to slash KUL just like what BA did, they wouldn't want to make any promotions or roadshows to promote the new route. JQ has relatively small fleet and with the 787 delay, JQ is badly hurt. Moreover, A320 cant fly direct from SYD to KUL and if they are to divert the direct route to SYD-Darwin-KUL, they may have not enough passengers or low yields. I still belive that KUL may one day be JQ Kangaroo route transit hub as KUL stands a strong chance to be one of them. I believe JQ will return once they receive their 787.

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I still belive that KUL may one day be JQ Kangaroo route transit hub as KUL stands a strong chance to be one of them. I believe JQ will return once they receive their 787.

 

 

JQ is likely to set up the kangaroo transit hub before they receive 787 or return to KUL.

 

:drinks:

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Which is going to be either in SIN (Jetstar Asia's hub) or SGN (Jetstar Pacific's hub). No way it's going to be in KUL.

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What a suprise...How long JQ operates the SYD-KUL flight since it was launched?

 

Guess it's a total disappointment for M'sians wishing to go to SYD on low fare.

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JQ started KUL on 1 September 2007. Therefore, by the end of September 2008, the airline will be operating KUL for 13 months only.

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JQ started KUL on 1 September 2007. Therefore, by the end of September 2008, the airline will be operating KUL for 13 months only.

 

I think AK will also face the same issues and I am not suprise if they stop their plan for long haul for the time being until the jet fuel goes back to the acceptable level.

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I think AK will also face the same issues and I am not suprise if they stop their plan for long haul for the time being until the jet fuel goes back to the acceptable level.

I would opine differently. The whole AK business model it would appear (to me at least) very much dependant on constant, unhindered growth, both in terms of route structure as well as topline. If one can accept an analogy with that of building an inverted pyramid from a pack of playing cards, then it's easy to imagine that to "stop their plan for long haul for the time being" could prove suicidal

Just an opinion :)

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Which is going to be either in SIN (Jetstar Asia's hub) or SGN (Jetstar Pacific's hub). No way it's going to be in KUL.

 

There are four airports that JQ poises to choose for its intercontinental hub. SIN, KUL, SGN, and BKK. Out of all, two hubs were now being feed via DRW with A320 (which is hardly long hauls), while flight to KUL will be withdrawn. That leaves BKK. BKK is the only destination plying with A330 from Melbourne. Hence, there is a greater chance that BKK will be the intercontinental hub for JQ. Already, Bangkok is a popular destination for Australian and European alike.

 

They give a deadline in choosing at the end of this year. Anything is possible though, but looking at their route-cutting action, BKK is most likely be chosen as their stopover hub. SIN and SGN despite being the Jetstar hubs can be some sort of feeder to the BKK, thus strengthening their South East Asian presence. It makes so much sense. If JQ follows this, then the presence of KUL will be diminished entirely. What we may see for KUL is only a feeder airport from SIN hub, nothing more. :(

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