Asiana Goes Daily To Kota Kinabalu

[Isaac 0]

Hey guys, Asiana Airlines (OZ) will start flying to BKI on a daily basis starting April using A321-200. Currently Asiana only operates 4x flights a week to BKI.

 

Route : BKI-ICN

Airline : Asiana Airlines (OZ)

Flight No : OZ 758

Days : 1234567

STD : 0025

STA : 0650

Flight Time : 05h30m

 

Route : ICN - BKI

Airline : Asiana Airlines (OZ)

Flight No : OZ 757

Days : 1234567

STD : 1900

STA : 2320

Flight Time : 05h15m

 

Korean Air on the other hand, will continue flying to BKI SIX TIMES A WEEK until October this year. Four of the flights will be operated by KE own aircraft (A300-600R - AB6) while the other 2x flights will be operated by Malaysia Airlines (333).

Edited February 7, 2008 by Isaac

[zeqa 1]

I guess there's lots of korean tourist in KK?

 

 

[TK 0]

Good...

 

I hope "day" flights...

 

More Korean restaurants i see at Gaya Street and Segama area...

I miss KK

[Yusoff 1]

Hey guys, Asiana Airlines (OZ) will start flying to BKI on a daily basis starting April using A321-200.

Route : BKI-ICN

Airline : Asiana Airlines (OZ)

Flight No : OZ 758

Days : 1234567

STD : 0025

STA : 0650

Flight Time : 05h30m

 

6.50am in KK is like 8am in Penang/Peninsular, isn't it? So spotting is no problemo there, I suppose.... Love Asiana new cs..

Edited February 7, 2008 by Yusoff

[Kee Hooi Yen 0]

6.50am in KK is like 8am in Penang/Peninsular, isn't it? So spotting is no problemo there, I suppose.... Love Asiana new cs..

 

 

0650 is ICN local time, not KK.....

[Meor 0]

More Korean restaurants i see at Gaya Street and Segama area...

I miss KK

 

Bro, come la to KK.. hehehe.. then we can go eat seafood...

[Kenneth T 0]

Change of timetable...good news for BKI spotters here. It shows that Korean tourist are mounting now and i just dont understand why MH had once said they decide to reduce flight frequency from Incheon to BKI. I guess that excuse is baseless except that theirs marketing skill is effective. It's crucial that MH look into its marketing strategy now.

[Samuel Chy 0]

Change of timetable...good news for BKI spotters here. It shows that Korean tourist are mounting now and i just dont understand why MH had once said they decide to reduce flight frequency from Incheon to BKI. I guess that excuse is baseless except that theirs marketing skill is effective. It's crucial that MH look into its marketing strategy now.

 

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anyway, thanks for the news, Isaac.

[Nik H. 3]

Change of timetable...good news for BKI spotters here. It shows that Korean tourist are mounting now and i just dont understand why MH had once said they decide to reduce flight frequency from Incheon to BKI. I guess that excuse is baseless except that theirs marketing skill is effective. It's crucial that MH look into its marketing strategy now.

 

Difficult to make money for MH on that route. Widebodies are based in KUL so the positioning flights add costs to the route. Unlike KE where the flights originate from their base.Likewise for the Taiwanese Charter flights. Furthermore they have the right aircraft for the mission.

 

I've looked into the economics of operating Charter flights even. Studies also included direct flights for japanese adventureres/divers to Miri, Semporna and Sipadan from Okayama, Fukuoka, Nigata, Sapporo and many other major secondary cities in Japan.

We've managed to operate two Diving Tours Charter flights previously but the high costs of positioning flights made sustainability difficult.

 

More that what meets the eye.

Edited February 8, 2008 by Nik H.

[Chan CS 0]

Capt Nik, can you please elaborate more on the positioning cost? Like what are the cost that involved?

[Nik H. 3]

Capt Nik, can you please elaborate more on the positioning cost? Like what are the cost that involved?

 

Sorry. No. Trust me on this.

[Chan CS 0]

Is fine

[Kenneth T 0]

is ther any good news? <_ unless you wan go to korea else src="%7B___base_url___%7D/uploads/emoticons/default_pardon.gif" alt=":pardon:">

 

Good news for u since u spent so much time spotting...and complained that no plane to spot....haha if ure not our taiko who else?

 

[Samuel Chy 0]

Good news for u since u spent so much time spotting...and complained that no plane to spot....haha if ure not our taiko who else?

 

let me know if when 11pm got sunlight.

[Kenneth T 0]

Difficult to make money for MH on that route. Widebodies are based in KUL so the positioning flights add costs to the route. Unlike KE where the flights originate from their base.Likewise for the Taiwanese Charter flights. Furthermore they have the right aircraft for the mission.I've looked into the economics of operating Charter flights even. Studies also included direct flights for japanese adventureres/divers to Miri, Semporna and Sipadan from Okayama, Fukuoka, Nigata, Sapporo and many other major secondary cities in Japan.We've managed to operate two Diving Tours Charter flights previously but the high costs of positioning flights made sustainability difficult.More that what meets the eye.

Apart from them, I think MAS marketing strategy is week...given that they have to rights to operate it before the Korean Airlines comes but they always claimed that the route is unprofitable. Comparing MH fares with Korean Air as well as Asiana, MH fares is is always the most expensive at any time of the year. Eithe MAS greedy for more and more profit to meet the targeted profit or simply they are not cost effective.

let me know if when 11pm got sunlight.

Ure hardcore spotters and u spent time going there also without light, If you read carefully theres a change of flight schedules.... not a suprise for us here anymore..haha. Edited February 8, 2008 by Kenneth T

[Samuel Chy 0]

Ure hardcore spotters and u spent time going there also without light, If you read carefully theres a change of flight schedules.... not a suprise for us here anymore..haha.

 

if she really arrive here when daylight, give me a wink.

[KK Lee 5]

Apart from them, I think MAS marketing strategy is week...given that they have to rights to operate it before the Korean Airlines comes but they always claimed that the route is unprofitable. Comparing MH fares with Korean Air as well as Asiana, MH fares is is always the most expensive at any time of the year. Eithe MAS greedy for more and more profit to meet the targeted profit or simply they are not cost effective.

 

MH marketing is not only weak but don’t understand what customers want, very often trying to kill two birds with one stone and ended up with lost of two birds.

 

BKI/ICN/BKI block to block time is about 12 hours. Like OZ, MH could have use 734 night stop time to ply this route. Hence, 333 aircraft positioning is not needed.

 

 

[Kenneth T 0]

if she really arrive here when daylight, give me a wink.

 

The new revised timetable shows that it is arriving in the morning rite? It's clearly specified....

[Samuel Chy 0]

The new revised timetable shows that it is arriving in the morning rite? It's clearly specified....

 

read carefully....

[Seth K 3]

No plan for KUL or PEN?

[Yusoff 1]

That would be wonderfull! Last time got KAL flights to PEN but now got scrapped due to low pax yield, me thinks..

Now can only see their cargo fleet...

 

[Isaac 0]

I guess there's lots of korean tourist in KK?

Yes. Just how funny that both of the Korean carriers can make this route work but not MAS Sorry, couldn't resist !

 

 

Difficult to make money for MH on that route. Widebodies are based in KUL so the positioning flights add costs to the route. Unlike KE where the flights originate from their base.Likewise for the Taiwanese Charter flights. Furthermore they have the right aircraft for the mission.

No route seems to work for MAS (metaphorically speaking)

 

By the way guys, KE, OZ and KA/CX roundtrip ticket to USA/Canada from BKI is SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than MAS too. Plus a much more flexible schedule than MAS.

 

 

No plan for KUL or PEN?

KE already fly to KUL on a daily basis for a while now while PEN was scrapped of KE map last year (due to poor load i believe).

 

 

[Kenneth T 0]

Yes. Just how funny that both of the Korean carriers can make this route work but not MAS Sorry, couldn't resist !

No route seems to work for MAS (metaphorically speaking)

 

By the way guys, KE, OZ and KA/CX roundtrip ticket to USA/Canada from BKI is SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than MAS too. Plus a much more flexible schedule than MAS.

KE already fly to KUL on a daily basis for a while now while PEN was scrapped of KE map last year (due to poor load i believe).

 

MH management fails to take into consideration what it can offers and what is in their mind is $$$....i hope that will not lead to fail state like Proton. Too much governent protection....

Edited February 9, 2008 by Kenneth T

[Desmond C 0]

Arrive in INcheon bah kan?

[Kenneth T 0]

Arrive in INcheon bah kan?

 

Yes ure rite.