nrazmoor 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2012 That is a very interesting development ... do you have a link to the article or somewhere that ties MAS' decision not to deploy the A380 to Sydney to this development? KC Sim Nope.. the article just saying that KLM will have a codeshare with EY to MEL and SYD.. nothing said about their tie up with MH and there is no articles saying that is one of the reason on why MH pull back A380 for that routes. just a wild guess maybe..?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheng Long 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2012 Received the bad news today. Equipment changed from A380 to B772. They flip, and now we wish they flop back to A380. Hope you enjoy the trip anyway.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted October 10, 2012 Received the bad news today. Equipment changed from A380 to B772. Ouch, you have been MHed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted October 10, 2012 Here you see AK and its ilk has an advantage - you cannot possibly get AK'ed, QZ'ed ...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waiping 12 Report post Posted October 10, 2012 Here you see AK and its ilk has an advantage - you cannot possibly get AK'ed, QZ'ed ...... They might just get "AXED" all together... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hon Kit 3 Report post Posted October 10, 2012 Seems like MH is the only operator whom changed their A380 destination so many times . So indecisive . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted October 10, 2012 Seems like MH is the only operator whom changed their A380 destination so many times . So indecisive . When you are losing billions of RM, and the A380 is supposed to be your saviour, you get very nervous! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh T 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) The A380 is definitely pulling in the crowds. According to ExpertFlyer, my flight from KUL to LHR tonight is now showing all 8 First class seats filled and 58/64 Business class seats taken. Even in Economy, there are only 6 empty seats left on the upper deck! In comparison, The flight from KUL to LHR tomorrow morning on the B744 only has 3/12 seats in First filled and 18/39 seats in Business taken. Edited October 11, 2012 by Josh T Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waiping 12 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 I just don't get it. LHR will get double daily, so maybe require 3 aircraft? SYD and NRT shelved. They should have 6 A380 towards the end of the year. Where would the rest go? Did I miss anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 The A380 is definitely pulling in the crowds. According to ExpertFlyer, my flight from KUL to LHR tonight is now showing all 8 First class seats filled and 58/64 Business class seats taken. Even in Economy, there are only 6 empty seats left on the upper deck! In comparison, The flight from KUL to LHR tomorrow morning on the B744 only has 3/12 seats in First filled and 18/39 seats in Business taken. Believe this A380 crowd pulling magic is only good for now... Once pax got used to it, the magic will wear off. In longer term that is not a solution to all the losses incurred by MAS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 The A380 is definitely pulling in the crowds. According to ExpertFlyer, my flight from KUL to LHR tonight is now showing all 8 First class seats filled and 58/64 Business class seats taken. Even in Economy, there are only 6 empty seats left on the upper deck! In comparison, The flight from KUL to LHR tomorrow morning on the B744 only has 3/12 seats in First filled and 18/39 seats in Business taken. Yes, so far, all airlines that operate the A380 are pulling in pax to their A380 services... Emirates A380 ops analysed: http://centreforaviation.com/analysis/emirates-stretches-out-a380-network-with-singapore-melbourne-auckland-and-moscow-84960 I just don't get it. LHR will get double daily, so maybe require 3 aircraft? SYD and NRT shelved. They should have 6 A380 towards the end of the year. Where would the rest go? Did I miss anything? I think there has been some delay due to the wing and RR engine issues. Two more A380's will be delivered by November. I believe that delivery of the 5th and 6th aircraft will now be delayed until next year. MH will need 3 to do KUL-LHR double daily. Perhaps MNA needs to go back to have its wings fixed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 Believe this A380 crowd pulling magic is only good for now... Once pax got used to it, the magic will wear off. If the B747 experience is to be repeated, the novelty value of a record-holding type (in this case, biggest) will hold for quite a long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 Believe this A380 crowd pulling magic is only good for now... Once pax got used to it, the magic will wear off. In longer term that is not a solution to all the losses incurred by MAS. I agree with Capt Radzi. Most pax try to get on A380 flights not because it is an A380. It is due to the unique features of the A380. Currently, no other aircraft offers what the A380 can offer. So the effect will last quite a long while... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Suhaimi Fariz 2 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 I just don't get it. LHR will get double daily, so maybe require 3 aircraft? SYD and NRT shelved. They should have 6 A380 towards the end of the year. Where would the rest go? Did I miss anything? You forgot CDG services. And FYI the 6th plane is scheduled to be delivered by Q1 next year. At the same time, the earliest plane will have to go in to be retrofitted with the wing crack fix, so for the early part of the year only 5 A380 will be available. Once the full complement is available, I don't see why NRT shouldn't be served by the dugong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh T 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 You forgot CDG services. And FYI the 6th plane is scheduled to be delivered by Q1 next year. At the same time, the earliest plane will have to go in to be retrofitted with the wing crack fix, so for the early part of the year only 5 A380 will be available. Once the full complement is available, I don't see why NRT shouldn't be served by the dugong. Or even SYD. 5 A380s will cover the twice daily flights to LHR and the daily flight to CDG. I reckon the 6th may end up going to SYD once all 6 dugongs are in full working order. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isaac 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 Or even SYD. 5 A380s will cover the twice daily flights to LHR and the daily flight to CDG. I reckon the 6th may end up going to SYD once all 6 dugongs are in full working order. That's even worse than flying the 6th 388 to NRT as SYD is even further away. At least a few flights will be affected should one of its 388 breaks down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 That's even worse than flying the 6th 388 to NRT as SYD is even further away. At least a few flights will be affected should one of its 388 breaks down. Current SYD B744 flights see the aircraft idle for over 6 hours at SYD. So one rotation to SYD takes almost as much time as a rotation to LHR or CDG. That is not very effective use of aircraft if current schedules are not modified. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Linehan 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) It is due to the unique features of the A380. Currently, no other aircraft offers what the A380 can offer. I have travelled several times on EK (both first class and economy) and SQ A380s. In my opinion there is little difference in economy between the A380 and the 744 other than the fact the A380 is a newer plane. Same seat configuration downstairs 3-4-3 along with 300+ economy passengers. That said, I would choose the A380 every time , although I used to love all the 747s. I shall be trying the new MAS A380 to KUL from LHR in February. Cannot wait. Edited October 11, 2012 by John Linehan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isaac 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 I have travelled several times on EK (both first class and economy) and SQ A380s. In my opinion there is little difference in economy between the A380 and the 744 other than the fact the A380 is a newer plane. Same seat configuration downstairs 3-4-3 along with 300+ economy passengers. That said, I would choose the A380 every time , although I used to love all the 747s. I shall be trying the new MAS A380 to KUL from LHR in February. Cannot wait. Isn't the Y seat on the 388 wider ? Anyway, do take lots of pictures Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Frasier 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2012 I agree with Capt Radzi. Most pax try to get on A380 flights not because it is an A380. It is due to the unique features of the A380. Currently, no other aircraft offers what the A380 can offer. So the effect will last quite a long while... Question is. Are these fare paying F passengers or govt/mh peeps taking a joy ride... Sorry to spoil the party but perhaps a reality check? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ganesh.r 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2012 Buys a few more ..6 is to littel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Suhaimi Fariz 2 Report post Posted October 12, 2012 Question is. Are these fare paying F passengers or govt/mh peeps taking a joy ride... Sorry to spoil the party but perhaps a reality check? I don't know about the flight crews, but normal staff only get Y for their FOC travel. For duty travel on the other hand, you do get the highest class available - but two weeks ago my colleagues went to London for duty travel and they had to fly on MH4 because MH2 is totally full with revenue passengers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Linehan 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2012 Isn't the Y seat on the 388 wider ? It may be, but not enough to make a huge difference on a 12 hour flight! Three years ago I flew first class form Dubai to bangkok on an EK A380. Now that was classy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mohd sukri abd hamid 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2012 mh should add 6 more A380 for the future or 777 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Azizul Ramli 2 Report post Posted October 12, 2012 The advert for the double daily LHR A380 run is up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
