affendi osman 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 BAOPS777 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2007, 116 posts, RR: 0 Posted Fri Nov 16 2007 07:10:59 your local time (3 hours 58 minutes 11 secs ago) and read 1007 times: Hi all just attended shadowing day at waterside. Interesting was the new routes BA are doing feasibility studies on at present for start in 2009/2010. They are: LHR-ICN Starting with 3-4 x weekly and looking towards daily operation. Due to this becoming an emerging market. LHR-KUL To start with operating via SIN using current BA011/BA012 flight daily. This is due to improvement in Malaysia's economy. gud news huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith T 2 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 (edited) Very noice! I hope they've got 5th freedom for SIN-KUL-SIN; would be such a great tier point run like BAH-DOH-BAH or AUH-MCT-AUH. As BA is usually the benchmark for commencing/ending routes I'm hoping that this will act as a catalyst for partners like QF. Anyway, according to Galley fm - they are also looking at the following: - LHR-LAS-LHR - LHR-MLE-LHR Edited November 16, 2007 by Keith T Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
affendi osman 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 I hope this will be an aye opener for other major carriers to use KUL. Good to see speedbird here again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenn Leong 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 Hi, This sounds good! Keith looks like i will be using OW if BA goes to KUL By the way will this be LHR-SIN-KUL on BA or is it direct LHR-KUL? Cheers, K. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seng Lim 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 If 5th freedom (KUL-SIN) is available then QF will be able to use BA service as the shutter for their Australian service via Sin & MH will be out of the picture (Provided the timing is right). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith T 2 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 (edited) Hi, This sounds good! Keith looks like i will be using OW if BA goes to KUL By the way will this be LHR-SIN-KUL on BA or is it direct LHR-KUL? Cheers, K. According to the a.net post it's BA11/12 B744 LHR-SIN-KUL vv. I'm thinking of the possibility of cheap TP runs if the SIN-KUL-SIN tag ons in F are priced similarly to SQ/MH F. I've always wanted to do the Middle Eastern ones but it's such a hassle to actually go there, so SIN-KUL-SIN will be much better. In F it'd be 60 SCs one way for accruing to QFF, or 180 TPs accruing to BAEC. So approximately 25 flights for QFF Platinum, or 6 flights for BAEC Euro Cheat Gold/11 flights to BAEC 'real' Gold. Time to hunt for an Euro (ie outside UK/Ireland) address... Pieter?? Currently BA11 gets into SIN at 1755, and leaves as BA12 at 2255. Adequate time to do a SIN-KUL-SIN tag on I should think, and definitely connects well to/from QF/BA services to LHR/FRA and Australia. Edited November 16, 2007 by Keith T Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Idham 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 when was last BA fly to KUL ?? is it SZB back then ?? so they never "touch" KLIA before?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 Do BA have fifth freedom between SIN and KUL? Good news for 1World travellers I suppose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith T 2 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 (edited) Do BA have fifth freedom between SIN and KUL? Good news for 1World travellers I suppose. Hoping they would, as it'd be a great shuttle to connect to the other QF/BA flights. The UK and Singapore have an open skies deal. I'm thinking that Malaysia will be crazy if they're so keen to get BA to re-start KUL but yet place restrictions on traffic rights as it defeats the whole purpose of operating tag-ons. Edited November 16, 2007 by Keith T Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan B. 5 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 I wonder if they would once again have KUL based cabin crew as they did last time. It would be good to have another choice for flights to LHR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teoh Z Yao 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 Good news... But have to wait till 2009... Impatient... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 (edited) SIN is BA hub, BA will have a new set of crews for SIN/KUL/SIN. Without fifth freedom rights, BA service on SIN/KUL may not last long. Edited November 16, 2007 by KK Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith T 2 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 (edited) SIN is BA hub, BA will have a new set of crews for SIN/KUL/SIN. Without fifth freedom rights, BA service on SIN/KUL may not last long. I don't think they'd train and base an entirely new set of crew in SIN or KUL just to work the tag on. I could be wrong, but I think having the tag ons would just mean that the LHR-SIN-LHR crew spend an additional day in SIN and work on the tag on flights as a day trip. They do already have a crew base in SIN though, who currently work on both SIN-LHR and SIN-SYD (2 SIN-based crew members per flight). Edited November 16, 2007 by Keith T Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 BA last operated to KUL (KLIA) using 772s. I believe BA has grandfather 5th freedom rights on SIN-KUL vv. Just like QF had. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seng Lim 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 I believe BA has grandfather 5th freedom rights on SIN-KUL vv. Just like QF had. Should be, if not Queen can always make a request to our Agung for immediate approval (just joking). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Smith 1 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 "Speedbird 11" and 12, the old Perth flights... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsim 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 yea... was on BA11 and BA12 once... sin-per-sin... back in 99 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith T 2 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 (edited) Am on SIN-LHR BA12 this coming Jan. Hmm I wonder how often they recycle flight numbers. But I suppose it's the same flight in a way, just not continuing to PER. BA11/12 were put on after BA17/18 to MEL via SIN were terminated. Edited November 16, 2007 by Keith T Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick R. 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 Good.. another choice to transfer pax if were full/'someone' dont wanna accept shuttle paxs hehe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenn Leong 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 Thanks Keith for the info. Hmm i would of hoped that BA will do direct LHR-KUL instead of LHR-SIN-KUL.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izanee 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 great news indeed affendi. I was always wondering when they would add on KUL to their terminator LHR-SIN flights. hope they don't pull out at the last minute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Azizul Ramli 2 Report post Posted November 16, 2007 Why 'terminator'? I thought the correct term is 'ghost flight'? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsim 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2007 Why 'terminator'? I thought the correct term is 'ghost flight'? erm... what's a ghost flight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted November 17, 2007 Why 'terminator'? I thought the correct term is 'ghost flight'? Terminator means turnaroudn service. "Ghost flight" means flying without pax due to lack of crew. Dont confuse the two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kandiah k 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2007 Good news for KUL, but then again it is yet to be seen officially, so lets wait and see. Besides, its nice for spotting and all...but not for pax travelling from LHR to KUL ot vv. The stop over in SIN is very significant in terms of timing so given a choice, I may not travel on that route unless they offer really cheap fares on it. They should just have faith in KUL and do a direct daily B777 or a 5x B744. Lets see !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
