What airlines have you been on?

[Keith T 2]

Yo Pieter - just noticed you got the RyanAir deal, the one where they absorb all taxes even APD. Did you have to pay for baggage? Cause people have been getting GBP0.02 all in.

A friend of mine deliberately booked out his entire flight, STN to Dublin using imaginary names just to get the whole plane to himself LOL. I didn't know you could book 200 seats (don't remember exact figure) - but apparently he had his staff (probably low level data entry ones) busy on RyanAir. Helps that you could do block bookings up to a max of 25. His justification was that RyanAir screwed him over heaps and this is a great way to get sweet revenge.

 

I think he probably overbooked the flight... For all of 200 x GBP0.02 = 4 quid.

 

Whoops I just made my own thread go OT - but didn't want to start a new thread on this...

Edited May 20, 2007 by Keith T

[Mohd Shuhainizam 0]

Malaysian Airlines

Royal Jordanian

Air Asia

MHS to offshore platform

[S V Choong 4]

Pieter, noticed you haven't been on Cathay Pacific before?

 

Keith, Jetconnect is staffed by Kiwis. Apparently due to a bit cheaper on hourly rate and better in terms of crew schedules (they don't need to pay the Aussie crew for accomodation), especially on Trans-tasman flights.

 

[Azuddin 1]

MHS to offshore platform

 

are you with Petronas or ExxonMobil, maybe you fimiliar with my dad.

[Izanee 0]

For me:

 

MH (F50, 732, 734, 735, AB3, D10, 772, 744)

AK (733, 320)

BA (744, 757, 767, 735, ATR-72)

QF (744)

SQ (310, 757, 743)

JL (D10)

BD (320, 321, ERJ)

FR (732)

SV (743, L15)

EK (772, 773)

MS (737, 772)

IB (320)

EI (320)

KL (744, F-100)

[Maarof Kassim 0]

Malaysian Airlines (734, DC-10, 332, 333)

Pelangi (F50)

Merpati (F28)

Garuda (F28)

All Nippon Airways (ANA) (A321)

Air Nippon (ANK) (735)

Air Asia (733, yes no 320 yet!)

[Jonathan Kong 0]

Mine:

 

Malaysia Airlines (F27, F50, B733, B734, B735, DC10, MD11, B772)

Singapore Airlines (A310, B772)

Garuda (DC10, B744)

Merpati (F28, F100)

Sempati (F100)

AirAsia (B733, A320)

Thai Airways (A300)

Qantas (B744)

[Seth K 3]

Keith, Jessnor, Seth & Ewan,

 

Tell me more about your KL experiences

Nothing beat the Dutch lady

 

 

[Wilber Tan 0]

hehe i really sia soi!!

 

only MH 737 777

MU(china eastern) B300

 

i seldom take flight la...

[Keith T 2]

Keith, Jetconnect is staffed by Kiwis. Apparently due to a bit cheaper on hourly rate and better in terms of crew schedules (they don't need to pay the Aussie crew for accomodation), especially on Trans-tasman flights.

 

Yeah I know about that. They even operate long haul flights and domestic flights in Australia along with the mainline crew.

Edited May 21, 2007 by Keith T

[Mushrif A 3]

Here's my contribution:

 

BA: B732, B757, B763

VS: A343, B744

KL: B74M

LH: A319, A320, A321, A333, B744

SK: B763, A343

BD: A320, A332, B733

Privatair: A319LR

TK: B734 (the very same aircraft then crashed 2 days later with many casualties)

MS: A320

RJ: A313, L1011-500

KU: A320, AB6

SV: AB6, B772

GF: A320, B763, A343

EK: B772, B773, A332

UL: A343

TG: AB6

CX: A333, B772, B773

SQ: B731, B727, B757, A312, A313, A343, A345, B772, B773, B744

MH: DHC6, F50, B732, B734, B735, DC10, AB3, B772, A333, A332, B74M, B744, B742

AK: B733

9P: F50

BI: F100, B732, B737Combi, B757, B763, A319

QF: B763, B742

NH: B763, B772, B744

AS: B734

AA: B762

DL: B738,MD88

UA: A319

US: A319

CO: ERJ145XR, B735

Edited May 21, 2007 by mushrif a

[Keith T 2]

Thai Airways (A300)

 

Aren't those the worst planes in the entire TG fleet, after the MD11s which are now thankfully gone? I've flown TG's AB6 SIN-BKK-SIN and HKT-BKK. Pretty uncomfy beasts they are, even for such short flights. The entire cabin is so dated and almost falling apart!

Edited May 21, 2007 by Keith T

[Meor 0]

Mine:

 

Malaysia Airlines (F27, F50, B733, B734, B735, DC10, MD11, B772)

Singapore Airlines (A310, B772)

Garuda (DC10, B744)

Merpati (F28, F100)

Sempati (F100)

AirAsia (B733, A320)

Thai Airways (A300)

Qantas (B744)

 

 

JK,

Where is you lufthansa??? forgot ah??

[Jonathan Kong 0]

oh ya ....

 

Mine:

 

Malaysia Airlines (F27, F50, B733, B734, B735, A300, A333, DC10, MD11, B772)

Singapore Airlines (A310, B772)

Garuda (DC10, B744)

Merpati (F28, F100)

Sempati (F100)

AirAsia (B733, A320)

Thai Airways (A300)

Qantas (B767, B744)

Japan Airlines (B763)

Lufthansa (A346) Syiok wow

 

Why Thai A300 is good? Because it was one of its last few last passenger flights and i managed to fly it!

[Keith T 2]

Why Thai A300 is good? Because it was one of its last few last passenger flights and i managed to fly it!

 

A300 = AB6 right?

If so - the TG ones are still alive and well on most regional and domestic routes. I'd actually be glad when they're totally gone... You won't see them much in KUL though - BKKKULBKK is served by either an A330 (which is quite nice in comparison) or brand new/refurbished 772s. From my perspective that's very lucky because SIN, PEN etc only ever get AB6s these days.

Edited May 21, 2007 by Keith T

[Guest Levent]

Let's see... this list is more or less in chronological order

 

- Turkish Airlines

- Lufthansa

- KLM

- Aerolineas Argentinas

- Austral

- VARIG

- Pan Am

- TAP Air Portugal

- TUR European Airways

- Air Alfa

- Istanbul Airlines

- Singapore Airlines

- Malaysia Airlines

- Thai Airways

- Aer Lingus

- China Northwest

- Merpati

- Air UK

- Aer Lingus

- Balkan Air

- Austrian Airlines

- Sabena

- Deutsche BA

- Denim Air

- Iberia

- Air Nostrum

- Tunisair

- Air Europa

- Vueling

- GB Airways

- CityFlyer Express

- Transavia

- Ryanair

- EasyJet

- Virgin Express

- Alitalia

- Finnair

- AirAsia

- Cathay Pacific

- Emirates

- Onur Air

- Atlas Air

- Bangkok Airways

- Valuair

- Jetstar Asia

- EVA Air

- Scenic Airlines

- Firefly

- Tiger Airways on 24 May

- Brussels Airlines on 3 June

- Qatar Airways on 6 July

- BMI Baby on 12 July

 

That makes 52!

 

Edited May 21, 2007 by Levent

[Hoe Jyh 0]

A300 = AB6 right?

If so - the TG ones are still alive and well on most regional and domestic routes. I'd actually be glad when they're totally gone... You won't see them much in KUL though - BKKKULBKK is served by either an A330 (which is quite nice in comparison) or brand new/refurbished 772s. From my perspective that's very lucky because SIN, PEN etc only ever get AB6s these days.

 

Yupz, at one period of time time the SIN-BKK were all operated by AB6s (except one evening flight) and us in Singapore got so bored spotting them. As much I loved Thai and it still remained my favourite carrier, their aged AB6s are in dire need of replacement. (Buy some 787s =)).

 

Here's my list of those that I have flown on:-

 

Air New Zealand (B762ER)

Cambodian Airlines (B727)

Alitalia (B742)

Air China (B762, B763, B733)

Xiamen Airlines (B733) [Oh the horror...]

Singapore Airlines (B772)

China Southwest Airlines (A343)

Thai Airways (B772, B773, AB6)

China Airlines (B738)

Finnair (MD-11)

Jetstar Asia (A320)

Silkair (A320)

Asiana Airlines (A333, A320, A321)

[Keith T 2]

Let's see... this list is more or less in chronological order

 

- Turkish Airlines

- Lufthansa

- KLM

- Aerolineas Argentinas

- Austral

- VARIG

- Pan Am

- TAP Air Portugal

- TUR European Airways

- Air Alfa

- Istanbul Airlines

- Singapore Airlines

- Malaysia Airlines

- Thai Airways

- Aer Lingus

- China Northwest

- Merpati

- Air UK

- Aer Lingus

- Balkan Air

- Austrian Airlines

- Sabena

- Deutsche BA

- Denim Air

- Iberia

- Air Nostrum

- Tunisair

- Air Europa

- Vueling

- GB Airways

- CityFlyer Express

- Transavia

- Ryanair

- EasyJet

- Virgin Express

- Alitalia

- Finnair

- AirAsia

- Cathay Pacific

- Emirates

- Onur Air

- Atlas Air

- Bangkok Airways

- Valuair

- Jetstar Asia

- EVA Air

- Scenic Airlines

- Firefly

- Tiger Airways on 24 May

- Brussels Airlines on 3 June

- Qatar Airways on 6 July

- BMI Baby on 12 July

 

That makes 52!

 

You and Pieter have impressive lists!

 

I only listed British Airways but if I were to list its franchise airlines seperately, then I can add a few more to my list:

- GB Airways

- BMED (sold off to BMI, will be integrated into BMI soon and cease flying as BA from Oct 2007)

- Loganair

- ComAir

- The one that flies LGW-DUB - forgot which franchise that is...

- British Asia Airways (doesn't exist any longer me thinks since they've stopped flying to Taipei)

 

Having said that - you only know they aren't actually BA if you study your ticket. They look like BA, smell like BA, taste like BA, accrue miles on BAEC and other oneworld FFPs - and in most cases on those short/mid hauls are more BA-esque than what BA is now!

Edited May 21, 2007 by Keith T

[Ivan L. 0]

Wow... everyone has a very long list... Let see if I can think of all the flights I have been on...

 

CX (B744, A333, A343)

SQ (B744, B743, B772, B773, A310)

MH (B744)

GA (A333, B734, F28)

MZ (F27, F28)

BA (B744)

QF (B763, B743. B744, B734)

AN (B763, A320)

Star Air (I think it was MD, but not sure which one)

AK (A320)

FD (B733)

KL (B744)

DJ (B737-700)

 

Not sure what else tho, I traveled more as a child, couldn't remember much where my parents took me last time.

[Keith T 2]

Xiamen Airlines (B733) [Oh the horror...]

 

Do share.

[Guest Levent]

I only listed British Airways but if I were to list its franchise airlines seperately, then I can add a few more to my list:

- GB Airways

- BMED (sold off to BMI, will be integrated into BMI soon and cease flying as BA from Oct 2007)

- Loganair

- ComAir

- The one that flies LGW-DUB - forgot which franchise that is...

- British Asia Airways (doesn't exist any longer me thinks since they've stopped flying to Taipei)

 

Having said that - you only know they aren't actually BA if you study your ticket. They look like BA, smell like BA, taste like BA, accrue miles on BAEC and other oneworld FFPs - and in most cases on those short/mid hauls are more BA-esque than what BA is now!

 

Well, as aviation enthusiasts I think it would be more than logical to list all these airlines separately! I never flew on a 'real' British Airways flight. GB Airways was on the VLC-LGW route on a 737-400 and CityFlyer Express on the LGW-AMS route on an AVRO RJ100, which by the way was extremely uncomfortable.

While these two operated as British Airways, Deutsche BA was a bit different, with the BA livery but Deutsche BA titles on the fuselage. I flew with them from DUS to TXL. They subsequently became independent from BA and renamed themselves to dba, and have now been taken over by Air Berlin.

 

Sometimes though I think there are big differences between the mainline company and the regional franchise. And in other cases, people mix up the two while they are clearly separate companies, such as Iberia and Iberia Regional / Air Nostrum. For Air Nostrum it was a good marketing move to operate as Iberia Regional, but their product is many times better than Iberia's.

 

Oops, I just realised that I left out a company I worked for myself! Air Exel, which was operating as KLM exel when I worked for them...

Edited May 21, 2007 by Levent

[Ivan Ong 0]

As far as I can remember,

 

AirAsia

Malaysia Airlines

Singapore Airlines

Cathay Pacific Airways

Korean Air

Qantas Airways

British Airways

Thai Airways International

Air China

China Southern Airlines

China Northwest Airlines (Now merged with China Eastern Airlines)

American Eagle

Northwest Airlines

Edited May 21, 2007 by Ivan Ong

[Keith T 2]

Well, as aviation enthusiasts I think it would be more than logical to list all these airlines separately! I never flew on a 'real' British Airways flight. GB Airways was on the VLC-LGW route on a 737-400 and CityFlyer Express on the LGW-AMS route on an AVRO RJ100, which by the way was extremely uncomfortable.

While these two operated as British Airways, Deutsche BA was a bit different, with the BA livery but Deutsche BA titles on the fuselage. I flew with them from DUS to TXL. They subsequently became independent from BA and renamed themselves to dba, and have now been taken over by Air Berlin.

 

Sometimes though I think there are big differences between the mainline company and the regional franchise. And in other cases, people mix up the two while they are clearly separate companies, such as Iberia and Iberia Regional / Air Nostrum. For Air Nostrum it was a good marketing move to operate as Iberia Regional, but their product is many times better than Iberia's.

 

A lot of the times the difference isn't transparent in the ticketing process. For a while this was a major concern as BA vigorously enforces the 'minimum 4 BA-operated flights' rule [unlike AA - I'm Platinum with AAdvantage despite having only stepped on 3 AA flights last year, and none the year b4, and I can't forsee any AA flights for this year either - earn it all on other oneworld metal/codes] to achieve or maintain BAEC Silver or Gold. And technically, although the franchises fly with BA codes and do look a lot like BA for all intents and purposes, they are not considered 'BA-operated.' An extreme example would be if you lived in South Africa and joined BAEC but flying only ComAir which operates domestic flights in South Africa and some regional flights- you think you're flying BA only to be told after getting the requisite TPs that you don't actually qualify for status because you haven't actually been on BA - despite you boarding flights with only BA flight numbers, operated by crew in BA uniforms etc.

 

So after a long and hard-fought campaign by the BA forum of Flyertalk - BA now indicates the name of the franchise you're booking when you search for flights on ba.com, AND not only that - franchises are now considered 'BA-operated' for the purpose of meeting that minimum segment rule! This was recently confirmed by the official BAEC liaisons to Flyertalk.

 

But unfortunately not all airlines are as progressive. I wouldn;t consider myself an aviation enthusiast in the sense that;'s understood by many on here and on a.net - I'm just a fan of travel (including hotels, cruises etc) and I do fly a fair bit but I'm more concerned about things like looking for good deals, interpreting fare rules and the inflight experience than the technical stuff. I haven't spotted in my life and have no intention of ever doing so. On the other hand I do also consider myself more informed than the general traveling public - so what still concerns me is that there is a tendency for people to book flights without knowing what the carrier they're flying with actually is. There was controversy a while back when people thought they were flying QF from LHR all the way to CNS, because the Jetstar flight SIN-DRW-CNS carries a QF codeshare. We tend to be more vigilant in looking out for these things - but many people were pissed off when they ended up on a JQ flight instead of mainline QF. Another eg is a friend who went on to the QF website to book a flight to Tasmania - and booked a JQ flight without knowing. And this is even with the 'JQ' designator - I told him about the need to look at the flight number but from his perspective - because hes booking from the QF website instead of the JQ website he expects that he's only booking QF flights. We who spend a lot of time with other enthusiasts or travel fans sometimes forget that the general public do not have as much knowledge about these things as we do, as echoed by the question asked of me this morning, "What does QF stand for?"

 

Daily rant over...

Edited May 21, 2007 by Keith T

[Alan B. 5]

MALAYSIA AIRLINES (F27,F50,B737-200,400,500, B747-200,300,400, B777-200, A300, A310-leased from Royal Jordanian, A330-200,300, DC-10-30, MD11 - leased from World Airways)

SINGAPORE AIRLINES (777-200)

AER LINGUS (B737-400)

SABENA (B737)

LUFTHANSA (A310)

BRITISH WORLD (BAC1-11)

KLM (747-400)

JAS (MD-90)

EMIRATES (A310, A300, A330, 777-200, 777-300)

AIRASIA (B737-300)

 

My favourite for:

service excellence- EK

value for money - KL

 

 

[Guest Levent]

So after a long and hard-fought campaign by the BA forum of Flyertalk - BA now indicates the name of the franchise you're booking when you search for flights on ba.com, AND not only that - franchises are now considered 'BA-operated' for the purpose of meeting that minimum segment rule! This was recently confirmed by the official BAEC liaisons to Flyertalk.

 

I definitely agree that it should be mentioned whenever a flight is operated by another carrier, be it a franchise or an entirely different company. I just remembered that I flew from AMS to LHR once on a KLM ticket where the flight to London was on a KLM Boeing 767 and back to Amsterdam on a Kenya Airways Airbus A310 - one carrier that I forgot to add to my list! I was informed of this when booking though and, being the airplane nut that I am, did not mind at all

 

Many travellers, especially the ones who don't travel that much, indeed lack essential information. In my earlier example of Iberia versus Iberia Regional / Air Nostrum, many people who think they're flying Iberia all the way and find out say "Hell, I am not going to fly in one of those little propeller planes!" but maybe don't realise that Air Nostrum's service is much better than Iberia's.

 

To mention another extreme, I once flew with a KLM exel stand-by ticket from EIN to HAM where, without knowing in advance, the flight was operated with an Embraer EMB-120 of Metropolis. This aircraft was in a terrible shape and I was very surprised that Air Exel would ever provide such a bad service. Mind you, this was during the period that Air Exel was going down the drains...