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Indonesia plans to ban jetliners more than 10 years old as part of safety campaign

 

JAKARTA, Indonesia (AP) Indonesia is planning to ban local carriers from operating jetliners more than 10 years old as part of a safety campaign following a string of crashes and accidents, the government said Wednesday.

The plan is likely to be unpopular with Indonesia's booming airline industry. Most experts say that maintenance of a plane and the number of takeoffs and landings it has performed not its age are the most important factors in preventing accidents.

It also may force some out of the more than 20 Indonesian airlines out of business or into mergers with rivals, an aviation analyst said.

``The main thing is we need a renewal of our fleet,'' said Transport Minister Hatta Rajasa after a Cabinet meeting held on board the presidential train a decision taken to highlight the government's concerns on transport safety after several deadly accidents on air, land and sea.

Transport Ministry spokesman Bambang Ervan said the proposed regulation, which Rajasa said would not need parliamentary approval, would ban ``all jets used for commercial purposes'' that were more than 10 years old.

Rajasa, who has been under pressure to resign following the accidents, said the government also was planning a ban on old ferries, but gave no more details.

On Jan. 1, a 17-year-old jetliner crashed into the sea in eastern Indonesia, killing all 102 people on board. Last week, a 12-year-old plane operated by the same budget airline had a hard landing, buckling its body.

Neither official said when the proposed ban would be implemented.

Policy announcements by Indonesian government ministers frequently come to nothing or end up being watered down.

Currently, the age limit for planes in Indonesia is 20 years.

Tengku Burhanuddin, secretary general of the Indonesian National Air Carriers Association, said the body had yet to be informed of the plan.

``We want to know what the reasons for this are,'' he said.

Aviation analyst Dudi Sudibyo said the average age of Indonesia's more than 300 jets was around 10.5 years, meaning massive investment in the industry would be needed if the plan was enforced.

``(Rajasa) has been too quick in taking action and had not calculated what the industry needs,'' he said. ``The age of a plane is not the only measurement of its safety.''

He said, however, that forcing the airlines to modernize their fleet would likely lead to a much needed consolidation of companies.

``What Indonesia needs is five or 10 big airlines, not the 23 there at the moment,'' he said.

 

http://wjz.com/businesswire/Indonesia-Jetl...urces_news_html

 

 

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Old aircrafts are dangerous so we should ban them......yeah right... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

 

I wouldn't say an a/c that's 10 years old anywhere old so what makes them say so is just completely bizzare... Plus should they enforce that, all GA's 744s would be completely gone, as well as most if not all A330s as well as a significant number of 737s... (source: http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/index.p...&sense=desc )

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Utterly absurd. Ridiculous idea that wouldn't work anywhere in the world.

 

Take Garuda for example...new rule is enforced, and their fleet overnight would be:

734's (and some of these are even no longer in the fleet!):

PK-GZF (all 1998)

PK-GZG

PK-GZH

PK-GZI

PK-GZJ

PK-GZK

PK-GZL

PK-GZM

PK-GZN

PK-GZO

 

735's:

Entire fleet would be retired in December

 

738's:

Both built 2002

 

A330's:

PK-GPA/C/D/E retired

PK-GPF has till 3rd March

PK-GPG has till 14th April

 

Any other a/c would have to be retired long ago!

 

Sheer stupidity that such an idea would be even mentioned, let alone actually considered!

 

Perhaps some genious in parliament should realise that all a/c need maintenance from time to time...perhaps they should clamp down on maintenance schedules, not age. Even a/c 10yrs or under face the risk of major incidents occuring if they lack regular maintenance!!!

Edited by Liam Gibb

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MAS 734s are more than ten years old but never involve in any fatal crashes simply because MH always put a good maintenance on those aircrafts.

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Indonesia plans to ban jetliners more than 10 years old as part of safety campaign

 

JAKARTA, Indonesia (AP) Indonesia is planning to ban local carriers from operating jetliners more than 10 years old as part of a safety campaign following a string of crashes and accidents, the government said Wednesday.

The plan is likely to be unpopular with Indonesia's booming airline industry. Most experts say that maintenance of a plane and the number of takeoffs and landings it has performed not its age are the most important factors in preventing accidents.

It also may force some out of the more than 20 Indonesian airlines out of business or into mergers with rivals, an aviation analyst said.

 

The Indonesian airline industry will be "hurt" :o

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...and who's gonna fly that?

Bingo! You don't even dare to fly it...

Like you know the aircraft maintainence record before u fly it :pardon:

Edited by Seth K

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This is absurd, they can continue to use aircraft older than 10 years, so long as they are maintained properly and regularly without cutting corners. 10 years is a still a young age for many aircraft. It won't be feasible unless they are SIA. Even SIA retire some of the aircraft after 12-15 years of service. What made Indonesian think they have the financial capability to retire their aircraft in every 10 years is an absolute joke.

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Agree with you guys. Its maintenance that matters. I think this is an ill-advise desperate attempt by the Transport Minister to save his career. I believe, this new regulation will actually cause his downfall. Most of the Indonesian airlines owners are well connected politicians and businessmen in Indonesia.

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This is absurd, they can continue to use aircraft older than 10 years, so long as they are maintained properly and regularly without cutting corners. 10 years is a still a young age for many aircraft. It won't be feasible unless they are SIA. Even SIA retire some of the aircraft after 12-15 years of service. What made Indonesian think they have the financial capability to retire their aircraft in every 10 years is an absolute joke.

 

I was told in Singapore or Japan cars can only be ten years old or less in order to be on the streets. I never believed it, but if this is true, it is even more absurd... Can anyone clarify?

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I don't think they will force you to give up your car in Japan if it is more than 10 years old. If it is, those AE86 Toyota Levin (those in Initial D) would mean they would have gone off the street. If I am not wrong, in Japan, you have to pay some sort of special tax in order to keep the cars beyond 10 years old. Mainly to do with emission control, I believe. Correct me if I am wrong.

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Indonesian government announced a ban on commercial aircraft older than 10 years this week following several mishaps and accidents, the worst of which was the January crash of a 17-year-old Adam Air 737-400 that killed 102. According to the Associated Press, Transport Minister Hatta Rajasa insisted the regulation would not require parliamentary approval but did not indicate when it would go into effect. The current age limit is 20 years. Adam Air announced earlier this month that it intended to lease six A320s and build up a fleet of 30 of the type "over the next five years," replacing the 737s it now operates. New aircraft will be both leased and purchased.

 

So, AdamAir will follow suit with the 320's a la AirAsia :good:

 

 

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hmmm....

 

this just goes to show the incompetence of certain politicians when it comes to things like this.... instead of maintain, buy new ones and run them into the ground (excuse the pun), until 10 years is up and the cycle repeats..

 

can't add much here, but yeah.. stupidity at its greatest it would seem........

 

As Liam has pointed out, most of the Garuda fleet (And Merpati fleet) would be instantly retired!!!... so the govt. wants to screw its own investments???

 

absolutely laughable...

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Adam Air announced earlier this month that it intended to lease six A320s and build up a fleet of 30 of the type "over the next five years," replacing the 737s it now operates.

 

Adam Air is now modernizing their fleet after the Indonesian government put the age limit to 10 years :o

Edited by Andrew Ong

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