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ic....actually for my 'homework' . i need to know the ice and rain protection system used in 787.. can u help me where to find it?thanks

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Don't think you can get the 787 maintenances manual right now...the aircraft is not even certified yet...usually only a few months before the plane is about to enter service, would you be able 2 get a copy of it.....and it is normally restricted circulation 2 airline operators....









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787's first flight delayed




First flight of The Boeing Co.'s 787 Dreamliner has slipped into October, the Seattle P-I has learned, and that delay will make it even more challenging and problematic to complete an aggressive flight-test program and get the new jet certified by regulators and delivered on time.


The further pushback of the first flight from the end of September is mainly a result of the complexity of installing and integrating various systems on the 787, people familiar with the matter said.


it is going to take more time than expected to get the critical flight-control systems and software up and running on the plane and "talking" with the other systems, these people said.....


The pressure is definitely on Boeing now


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This is the 1st delayed that we are hearing from Boeing, hopefully things will run out smootly otherwise they may ended up like thirs competitor Airbus. Any compensation is delivery will eat up the profits for sure :rolleyes:

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Wow,delayed? Quite shocked to hear that Boeing annoncing the delay of Dreamliner until October :blink:

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The further pushback of the first flight from the end of September is mainly a result of the complexity of installing and integrating various systems on the 787, people familiar with the matter said.


Sounds very similar to the A380 'problems' :blink:


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Better to delay before first flight to make sure things work out perfectly and no problem with delivery rather then early first flight and then 2 years delay for delivery.



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Nice split-up order (look at the amount of USD):


Aeroflot To Buy Boeing 787s, Airbus A350s

August 20, 2007

Russia's national airline, Aeroflot, will pay USD$5.81 billion for a total of 44 aircraft from Boeing and Airbus, a discount of about 17 percent, Vedomosti business daily reported on Monday.


Aeroflot has agreed to pay USD$2.906 billion for 22 Boeing 787 Dreamliner aircraft and USD$2.904 billion for 22 of Airbus's A350 XWB planes, the paper said, citing a report by Interfax news agency.


Interfax cited company materials prepared for a shareholders meeting.


Aeroflot announced the deals earlier this year but has never said how much it was going to pay for the aircraft in one of the biggest-ever foreign plane orders by a Russian company.


The paper said each of the two 22-plane orders would have cost USD$3.5 billion according to list prices, indicating a discount of about 17 percent.


Analysts told the paper the discount was so large because Aeroflot had managed to play off both companies against each other.


Under the deals, Aeroflot will get its first Airbus in 2014 and the last in 2019, and its first Boeing in 2014 and the last in 2016, the paper said.




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Boeing Says 787 On Track For May 2008 Delivery


October 8, 2007

Boeing said on Monday it still expected to deliver its first lightweight 787 Dreamliner aircraft on time by May 2008, despite delays to its test flight schedule.


"It is still our objective to meet that May 2008 delivery but in doing that we have had to compress our flight-test schedule," Randy Tinseth, Boeing Commercial Airplanes Vice President for Marketing, told reporters.


"It is an aggressive schedule but we believe we can do it."


Tinseth said the plane was still set for its first test flight between mid-November and mid-December after a three month delay due to a shortage of bolts and problems programming the flight control software.


The plane must complete 1,300 flight-test hours and 3,700 ground-test hours between the first flight and certification of the plane, Tinseth said, describing the schedule as "challenging".


The first 787 is due to be delivered to Japan's All Nippon Airways.


Boeing, which competes with Airbus for the title of world's biggest plane maker, is forecasting 28,600 new aircraft worth about USD$2.8 trillion will be bought over the next 20 years on the back of rising demand for passenger travel and air cargo.


Tinseth, speaking on a visit to Australia, said Boeing now expected 580 planes worth USD$73 billion would be bought in Australia, New Zealand and the South Pacific by 2026.


Boeing upped its forecast from 440 planes worth USD$60 billion previously due to rapid growth in low-cost airlines which were bumping up orders for single-aisle planes.


He said fuel prices were expected to remain volatile, although Boeing's 20 year forecast assumed they would moderate over the next 20 years.




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Boeing to delay first 787 deliveries by 6 months


CHICAGO (AP) - Boeing Co. has long promised that its 787 Dreamliner will fly faster and farther than any other medium-sized jet, use 20 percent less fuel and offer increased cabin comfort.


Now the first all-new American commercial jetliner in more than a decade also will be at least six months late.


Acknowledging that early problems assembling the first 787 have disrupted its schedule, the aerospace company said Wednesday it is delaying initial deliveries of the ballyhooed aircraft by six months.


Instead of next May, the first deliveries are now targeted for late November or December 2008.


The first test flight, already pushed back once from the initial target of early this fall, now is not anticipated until around the end of the first quarter of 2008.


The delay highlights inherent problems in building new airplanes and could slow the momentum Boeing built up after years of lagging behind European rival Airbus, which itself stumbled in introducing its superjumbo A380 two years behind schedule.


Chairman and CEO Jim McNerney expressed disappointment over the delays but said the problems relate to the company's supply chain, not to any structural or design problems.


"We are very confident in the design of this airplane,'' he said on a conference call.


"It'll be a 25- to 30-year success - one of the fundamentally new things in aviation.''


The 787, Boeing's first newly designed jet since airlines started flying the 777 in 1995, will be the world's first large commercial airplane made mostly of carbon-fiber composites, which are lighter, more durable and less prone to corrosion than more traditional aluminum.


Boeing has said it will be cheaper to maintain and offer better fuel efficiency and more passenger comforts than comparable planes flying today.


But the company said its effort has been shadowed by difficulty getting the right parts from its suppliers on time as well as shortages of fasteners and other small parts that hold large sections of the plane together.


Boeing said the postponement will not materially affect its earnings or guidance for next year but will cause it to push back an estimated 30 to 35 deliveries of 787s from next year to 2009.


The delay also will cost Boeing undisclosed penalty pay to customers.


Company executives said an aggressive production schedule will enable them to keep close to the longer-term plan, with 109 deliveries still expected by the end of '09 compared to the original target of 112.


McNerney had publicly voiced confidence as recently as four weeks ago that the airplane maker would be able to deliver the first 787 on time next May to Japan's All Nippon Airways Co.


But his pronouncement was greeted skeptically within the industry since the company already had altered its timeframe.


On Sept. 5, Boeing formally pushed back the first test flight to mid-November or mid-December.


That would have left the company just five to six months before the first delivery, or about half the time it took to test the 777 a decade ago.


In August, when the company first acknowledged problems meeting the original test-flight schedule, it cited software and systems integration activities as contributing to the holdup.


Scott Carson, head of the company's Seattle-based commercial airplanes unit, said those problems no longer are a key issue.


Carson said the difficult structural work on the first airplane is nearing completion and the plane came off its jacks Sunday.


Work on the second 787 to come down the line, called a static test airplane, will move ahead as work on the first plane accelerates, he said.


"The issue really driving today's decision is the traveled work and parts availability on airplane No. 1,'' Carson said, referring to the work suppliers are supposed to do at their plants but that Boeing has been doing in-house.


"It has simply proved to be more difficult than we anticipated to complete the structural work on the airplane out of sequence in our Everett factory.''


Airbus still has not recovered from its own problems introducing the A380.


The lengthy delays, due largely to wiring problems, wiped billions of dollars off its parent company's profit forecasts for the coming years and sent many orders to Boeing.


The announcement Wednesday is not likely to cause such turmoil for a highly anticipated plane that has 710 orders from 50 customers and is sold out through late 2013.


Airbus' planned A350 mid-sized wide-body aircraft isn't due to hit the market before 2013.


But analysts cautioned another delay would be more troubling.


"Just because the delivery date has been changed, customers are not going to be canceling,'' said Morningstar analyst Brian Nelson.


"It's not as difficult to build as the A380. ... If things extend beyond the six-month delay and we start getting closer to a year, then I start getting worried.''


Robert Stallard of Bank of America Equity Research said Wall Street had been expecting a delay, albeit a shorter one.


"While this is obviously not a good news day for Boeing, we believe that few investors had recently been placing much hope in the firm meeting first delivery in May 2008,'' he said in a research note.


"This announcement will, therefore, remove some uncertainty in investors' minds, and it allows management the chance to reassert its credibility and aim for a revised date.''


All Nippon Airways issued a statement expressing its disappointment.


"We regret that delivery of the 787 will be delayed and we hope to keep the impact of the delay to a minimum,'' spokesman Damion Martin said.


Boeing shares, which had moved higher before the late-morning announcement, quickly tumbled and shed $2.77, or 2.7 percent, to $98.68 by day's end in heavy trading.



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Corporate Impact Of Boeing's 787 Delay


October 11, 2007

Boeing's announcement that first deliveries of its 787 Dreamliner will be delayed by at least six months will affect a number of corporations across the world.


As plane deliveries are moved back, suppliers may find revenues from parts it sells to Boeing are shifted backward.


Airlines may have problems finding replacement planes while waiting for 787s, but may also be entitled to compensation from Boeing.


The following is a list of key suppliers, customers and rivals that are most likely to feel a financial impact from the delay.




-- Japanese textile firm Toray Industries , which is supplying the carbon-composite fiber making up around half the 787's main structure


-- General Electric and Rolls-Royce, which are making the plane's engines


-- Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Kawasaki Heavy Industries and Fuji Heavy Industries, which are building key parts of the carbon composite fuselage, wing box and wing


-- Spirit Aerosystems, which is building fuselage and wing parts


-- Honeywell International and Rockwell Collins, which are supplying flight control electronics, navigation systems and displays


-- Hamilton Sundstrand, a unit of United Technologies, which is making the plane's internal power systems


-- Global Aeronautica, which is putting together parts of the fuselage in South Carolina. The company is a joint venture between Alenia, a unit of Italian aerospace group Finmeccanica, and Vought Aircraft Industries, which is majority-owned by private equity firm Carlyle Group




-- Japan's All Nippon Airways, which placed the first order, for 50 787s, in July 2004.


-- Other large customers include International Lease Finance Corporation, Qantas Airways, Air Canada, Japan Airlines, Air India and Continental Airlines




-- Airbus, a unit of European aerospace group EADS , may see renewed interest in its A350 XWB (extra wide body) plane, its planned rival to the 787




Qantas Says 787 Delays To Have No Impact


October 11, 2007

Australia's Qantas Airways said on Thursday a delay in delivery dates for Boeing's 787 Dreamliner aircraft would not materially impact its operations, but did not rule out seeking compensation.


Qantas, one of the world's largest buyers of the new plane, said Boeing had assured it that the first of the 15 aircraft scheduled for delivery from August 2008 would still arrive within six months of the original delivery date.


"Boeing said the August 2008 aircraft would slip, but not by six months. Once that aircraft arrives, the remaining 14 aircraft deliveries will be staggered until December 2009," Qantas Chief Executive Geoff Dixon said in a statement.


Qantas has firm orders for 65 787s, with options for 20 more and purchase rights for a further 30, as the airline and its low-cost subsidiary Jetstar seek to expand on routes in the Asia-Pacific region.


Boeing on Wednesday pushed back first deliveries of its 787 by at least six months to late November or December 2008 as it struggles to assemble the new lightweight, carbon-composite plane.


The delay is an embarrassing setback for Boeing, which has for months insisted it would meet its delivery timetable despite production problems, and mirrors delays suffered by rival Airbus on its A380 superjumbo.


As recently as last Monday, Boeing's Commercial Airplanes Vice President, Randy Tinseth, said on a visit to Sydney that the timetable was still achievable.


The first 15 planes are scheduled to be used on Jetstar's fast-growing international operations.


Dixon said contingency plans were in place for capacity shortages and it would consider measures such as delaying the retirement of aircraft.


"Compensation issues will be the subject of commercial negotiations between the Qantas and Boeing companies," Dixon said.


Qantas, which in August tipped current year pre-tax earnings to rise 30 percent, said it was not changing its earnings guidance.




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First bird roll out is to be delayed by 6 months. :blink: First delivery points to Nov/Dec 08 rather than May 08 as previously anticipated. Just read this over at A.nut and it appears to be official too.


Any thoughts??


Boeing Reschedules Initial 787 Deliveries and First Flight


CHICAGO, Oct. 10, 2007 -- The Boeing Company [NYSE:BA] today announced a six-month delay in its planned initial deliveries of the 787 Dreamliner due to continued challenges completing assembly of the first airplanes.


Deliveries of the strong-selling Dreamliner are now slated to begin in late November or December 2008, versus an original target of May 2008. First flight is now anticipated around the end of first quarter 2008.


The company said the financial impact of the delay would not be material to earnings and that its earnings guidance for 2007 and 2008 remained unchanged.


"We are disappointed over the schedule changes that we are announcing today," said Boeing Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer Jim McNerney. "Notwithstanding the challenges that we are experiencing in bringing forward this game-changing product, we remain confident in the design of the 787, and in the fundamental innovation and technologies that underpin it."


Early last month, Boeing announced a delay in the planned first flight of the 787 citing ongoing challenges with out-of-sequence production work, including parts shortages, and remaining software and systems integration activities. The company also acknowledged increasing risk to the delivery schedule, indicating that the margin to accommodate unexpected issues had been eliminated. The newly revised schedule for first flight and first delivery addresses the production challenges and restores margin for the program to deal with issues that may be uncovered in final ground or flight testing. Boeing also said today that flight control software and systems integration activities are not pacing items in the revised schedule for first flight.


"While we have made some progress over the past several weeks completing work on our early production airplanes and improving parts availability across the production system, the pace of that progress has not been sufficient to support our previous plans for first delivery or first flight," said Scott Carson, president and CEO of Boeing Commercial Airplanes. "We deeply regret the impact these delays will have on our customers, and we are committed to working with them to minimize any disruption to their plans.


"The most important commitment we've made to our customers is to deliver an airplane that performs to their expectations over the long life of the program. These changes to our schedule will help ensure we do just that," Carson said.


The company will hold a conference call to discuss the 787 schedule changes today at 12:30 p.m. Central Time, which will be accessible at the company's website.


Boeing will provide its next quarterly financial performance update as planned on October 24.



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With first flight targeted at end of first quarter 08, means around March-april...... I seriously doubt that they can make December 08 delivery, considering the amount of kinks and screwups that will be found during test flights. Especially with such a ground breaking new tech plane such as this.


But then again, ive been working with airbus. heh heh. maybe they will lar. but i seriously doubt it tho....

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Boeing Names New Head For Delayed 787 Program


October 17, 2007

Boeing on Tuesday named Pat Shanahan to replace Mike Bair as head of the 787 Dreamliner program, which has been delayed by at least six months.


The delay was an embarrassing setback for Boeing, which had insisted for months that it would meet its delivery timetable despite production problems.


Shanahan's appointment as vice president and general manager of the 787 program was effective immediately. Bair, meanwhile, will become vice president of business strategy and marketing for commercial planes.


Boeing, which vies with Airbus as the world's biggest plane maker, has delayed the first deliveries of the 787 as it struggles to assemble the new carbon-composite plane.


"It would appear as though Mr. Bair is paying for the six-seven month delay anticipated in the aircraft's first delivery," Bank of America analyst Robert Stallard said in a research note.


"While investors may be glad to see senior management taking decisive action on the 787 after the recent questions posed on credibility, a significant body of knowledge will depart with Mike Bair, and it will take time for Mr. Shanahan to get up to speed on the program," Stallard said.


Chicago-based Boeing said last week that 787 deliveries are now slated to begin in late November or December 2008.


The carbon-composite plane is of great importance for Boeing. It has taken orders for more than 700 of the 787 planes from 48 airlines and leasing companies. The orders are worth more than USD$100 billion at list prices.


Shanahan "knows how to deliver results, understands our customers and their requirements and has the leadership skills to get the job done," said Scott Carson, chief executive of Boeing Commercial Airplanes.


Shanahan was vice president of missile defense systems at Boeing Integrated Defense Systems. He had previously led both the 757 and 767-400ER programs at Boeing Commercial Airplanes.




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AerCap Chief Sees More Boeing 787 Delays


November 9, 2007

The head of one of the world's biggest plane-leasing companies said on Thursday he expects more delays on Boeing's new 787 Dreamliner, only a month after the US planemaker put back initial deliveries on its revolutionary aircraft by six months.


The comments, by AerCap Holdings Chief Executive Klaus Heinemann, come as Boeing scrambles to get its most successful plane project back on track, and looks to avoid creeping delays like those suffered by rival Airbus.


"Before 2008 is over, the delay (on the 787) may be a little more than what Boeing currently admits to," said Heinemann. "The current assessment of the delay by Boeing is generally viewed in the market as an optimistic assessment."


Boeing has orders for 736 of the lightweight, carbon-composite planes -- worth about USD$120 billion at list prices -- but is struggling with out-of-sequence work and a shortage of bolts on the first few models.


Last month it pushed back the first test flight to next year and postponed initial deliveries of the plane by at least six months to late November or December 2008 versus an original target of May 2008.


Heinemann believes initial deliveries will probably be on time, but Boeing may miss its ambitious targets for 2009.


"Where the market has doubts is not so much on Boeing's assessment on the first delivery, toward the end of next year," Heinemann said. "Where the market has some doubts is with respect to the ramp-up of the production capacity for the aircraft during 2009."


Even adjusting for the six month delay, Boeing said last month it was still aiming to deliver 109 787s by the end of 2009, only three fewer than originally planned. Boeing said 30 to 35 plane deliveries originally scheduled for next year are likely to be pushed into 2009, implying an even sharper-than-expected production ramp-up in 2009.


Some Wall Street analysts and airline operators have already expressed concern about Boeing meeting its new schedule. The issue could prove costly for Boeing if it has to compensate airlines for late deliveries, as Airbus did for delays of up to two years on its A380 superjumbo.


AerCap, one of the top 10 global aircraft lessors, is not a 787 customer and has not bought any planes directly from Boeing, but Heinemann said he is "in favor of a more balanced portfolio."


The Dutch firm's 325-strong fleet of aircraft is predominantly made up of Airbus planes, chiefly because AerCap used to be part-owned by Germany's Daimler, a major shareholder of Airbus's parent EADS.


AerCap, which reported a rise in quarterly profit on Thursday, is one of a handful of second-tier aircraft lessors, in an industry dominated by two giants, International Lease Finance Corp, which is a unit of insurer American International Group, and and General Electric's GECAS unit.




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I don't think you missed the Continental


It's there at the background of the 707 Omega tanker.


Nice shot by the way.



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Boeing Under Pressure On 787 Timetable


December 11, 2007

Boeing faces doubts that it will keep to the revised production schedule for its new 787 Dreamliner, but is not expected to announce further delays on Tuesday, when the project's new manager hosts his first call on the troubled plane.


The revolutionary carbon-fiber aircraft is already at least six months behind schedule, with a very ambitious ramp-up of production planned to meet the demands of the many airlines who have ordered Boeing's new fuel-efficient plane.


On Tuesday the project's new head, Pat Shanahan, is scheduled to face analyst and media questions in Boeing's latest regular update on the program, which has been struggling with a host of supplier issues and shortages of key components.


Wall Street expects that Boeing will admit that it is still having production problems, but will not delay the target for first delivery of November-December 2008, which is six months later than originally planned.


"We expect the commentary to be largely positive and focused on the near-term path to first flight," said Joseph Nadol at JP Morgan, in a research note.


Boeing is targeting its first test flight around the end of March next year, compared with its original plan of August this year, as a result of problems getting the first 787 assembled.


Beyond that, analysts anticipate problems.


"We doubt Boeing will announce any changes to the schedule," said Citigroup's George Shapiro, in a research note. But more delays are likely and production ramp-up "will be a major issue," he said.


"We also believe that the program is still facing industrial disarray and that Boeing is struggling to implement the ramp up necessary for 109 deliveries before the end of 2009," said JP Morgan's Nadol.


Despite postponing the initial delivery date in October, Boeing has essentially held to its ambitious production schedule, promising 109 deliveries before the end of 2009, compared with its original plan to deliver 112 of the planes by that time.


That timetable has been publicly doubted by analysts and industry insiders.


"We are skeptical that 109 deliveries will occur by 2009," said Shapiro. "Even if Boeing can reach its production targets, any changes resulting from flight certification will require modification of the approximately 60 aircraft that will be near completion at the time of first delivery."


Those with inside knowledge of the 787 program seem to agree that Boeing's plan to outsource most of the production to manufacturers across the world and assemble the pieces in Seattle has not worked as well as expected.


The original head of the program, who was moved aside by Boeing in October, commented soon afterward that some key 787 suppliers simply weren't up to the job, and that Boeing should consider bringing major production back to the Seattle area.


The difficulties of a spread-out manufacturing base has been exacerbated by an acute and unexpected shortage of bolts to hold the plane together. Boeing also did not help itself by putting together a shell of the plane for a flashy July roll-out only to pull most of it apart again.


As a result of the delays, major suppliers such as Rockwell Collins and Spirit Aerosystems -- which are not due to be paid until 787s start being delivered -- now face a long wait between investing heavily in the project and seeing financial benefits.


These and other suppliers are now in discussions with Boeing over possibly speeding up some payments, or making some other arrangement to reduce their exposure.


Boeing also faces the prospect of paying compensation to airlines waiting longer than expected for planes, just as Airbus did over late deliveries of its A380 superjumbo.


"Unhappy suppliers do not make for successful airplane programs, and we believe that Boeing must address these issues," said Nadol at JP Morgan. "Although it would cause some near-term pain, we still think Boeing's best option may be to slow the ambitious production ramp up."




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Boeing Says It Will Meet Delayed 787 Schedule


December 11, 2007

Boeing said on Tuesday its troubled 787 Dreamliner program remains on track to meet the revised schedule the company set in October.


The plane is still set for first test flight by the end of the first quarter 2008 and first delivery late November or December 2008, said Scott Carson, chief executive of Boeing's commercial airplanes unit.


Boeing still plans to deliver 109 of the aircraft by the end of 2009, he added, in the face of doubts in the industry.


Two months ago, Boeing delayed first delivery of the new plane by at least six months from its original target of May 2008, citing a range of production problems for the aircraft.


The move disappointed customers and unsettled investors, echoing delays suffered by rival Airbus on its A380 superjumbo.


The plane maker has had problems getting all the 787's parts -- which are being manufactured around the world -- to its assembly plant near Seattle in completed form. It has also been hurt by an acute and unexpected shortage of bolts to hold the plane together.


The lightweight, fuel-efficient plane has been a hit with airlines, notching 762 orders from 52 customers, making it the most successful plane launch in Boeing's history, with an order book worth more than USD$120 billion at list prices.


But Wall Street analysts and industry insiders doubt that Boeing can keep up with the ambitious production ramp-up that its delivery target suggests.


That target of 109 deliveries by the end of 2009 -- only three short of its original target before production problems came to light -- still stands, said Pat Shanahan, the new head of the 787 program.


"We are making steady progress across the board," said Shanahan, a Boeing veteran who was put in charge of the 787 program in October after original program chief Mike Bair was moved aside in the wake of delays.


Both Shanahan and Carson said the production schedule was "aggressive" but possible to achieve. They gave no details on exactly how or by what increments Boeing would increase production to hit its target.


The immediate focus on the program is now "power on" for the first plane, Shanahan said, meaning the moment when the aircraft's power systems are switched on, which will give engineers a better idea how close the plane is to completion.


Turning on the plane's power systems is scheduled for the end of January, Shanahan said.


Boeing's shares fell 69 cents to USD$91.95 on the New York Stock Exchange on Tuesday. The stock has fallen 15 percent from the all-time high in July, dragged down by concerns over the 787.




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Just gleaned this off from BBC site


Boeing 'facing more 787 delays'


Boeing shares have fallen by almost 5% on reports that it faces further delays on its new 787 Dreamliner jet.

The US plane-maker has continued to struggle with problems in the assembly of the aircraft, the Financial Times and Wall Street Journal say.


Reports suggest Boeing will announce a further three-month delay - putting it 10 months behind schedule.


The Dreamliner is Boeing's fastest-selling plane, with 802 orders in total by the start of 2008.


But the delays would mean that no 787s would be delivered this year, with Boeing therefore also missing its target of delivering 109 of the jets by the end of 2009, the FT said.


Its shares closed down 4.7% at $77.86 on Tuesday.


Boeing's first all-new jet since 1995, it is the only big commercial aircraft made mostly of carbon fibre rather than aluminium.


It is billed as the most environmentally friendly commercial jet ever built.


Boeing says the 787 is much more fuel-efficient than its competitors and produces 20% less carbon dioxide.


British Airways has ordered 24 Dreamliners and rival UK carrier Virgin Atlantic is buying 15 of the jets.


The first carrier to receive the plane will be Japan's All Nippon Airways which had initially expected the planes in May.

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haha~ delay became the latest trend already!

Airbus & Boeing made so many empty promises.

the only thing the market wanted to know is will the delay break A380's record?! <_< :p


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There is always risk when developing new technology especially in complex engineering project like A380 and 787. Very often initial time table or schedule is over optimistic, on time development of new technology is rare especially if various safety tests is needed.




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