Poowin Bunyavejchewin 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2006 (edited) Today, I would like to show you some information from IATA about the new Bangkok Int'l Airport. From: BEHRENS David Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:12 AM Subject: Bangkok, Thailand: Suvarnabhumi Airport Updates ATTENTION: Airlines Operating into Bangkok, Thailand Although everyone believes politics will force a 28 September 0300 (local Bangkok time) opening of Suvarnabhumi Airport, there is still a (very) remote possibility that enough public pressure (such as the Bangkok Post news story below) could bring the operational stakeholders back in control of the opening date. The latest on the Bangkok 3-letter airport codes are as follows: 1. Suvarnabhumi Airport will keep the NBK code until 28 SEPT at 03:00 local (27 Sept 2000 UTC) - then this code will disappear. (NBK is currently being used for international test flights at the beginning of September & the 2 weeks of domestic flights). 2. Suvarnabhumi Airport will take the code BKK on 28 SEPT at 03:00 local time (27 Sept 2000 UTC). 3. Don Muang will take the new code DMK on 28 SEPT 28 at 03:00 local time (27 Sept 2000 UTC).. In the area of operations, we have met with Aerothai, Department of Civil Aviation and the Ministry of Transport and voiced our concerns with the non-standard runway designators, the non-standard ILS and the design of instrument procedures. Although there has been some agreement and understanding in the meetings on the issues, we do not know what will be corrected and are not sure if the agreement to notify the differences with ICAO and record them in their AIP (GEN) will occur before the opening of Suvarnabhumi Airport. Therefore, we have compiled a list of the issues we have identified and how they differ (when they do) to the ICAO Standards and Recommended Practices (see attachment). Finally there have been many questions on whether Don Muang can be filed as an alternate airport. Although we have nothing official stating either way, we have been assured by many that Don Muang will remain available as an alternate aerodrome. As for the airport itself, our understanding is that after 28 September Don Muang Airport will handle only government & military flights, along with private & charter flights. Best Regards, Dave Behrens David C BEHRENS Director Safety, Operations & Infrastructure Asia Pacific Tel. +65 6239 7161 Fax +65 6536 6267 behrensd@iata.org International Air Transport Association 77 Robinson Road, #05-00 SIA Building, Singapore 068896 -------------------------------------------------------------- All set for an in-your-face landing Bangkok Post 16 Aug Caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra's determination to rush Suvarnabhumi Airport's opening on Sept 28, is perilously putting a great risk of severe disruption, if not total paralysis, to Thailand's air transport. Looking at the circumstances surrounding the airport's readiness and listening to well-intended observations by aviation professionals, it is a foregone conclusion that the facility will not be up and running smoothly on Sept 28, which is barely 43 days away. Most of the more than 70 international carriers, even Thai Airways International, are most unlikely to be able to completely establish themselves at Bangkok's 125-billion-baht new airport, whose crucial systems are not ready, either. That is due largely to the fact airlines have not been given enough time to set up offices and integrate themselves with global systems of their groups and Suvarnabhumi's own airport information management. On paper, the Airports of Thailand (AoT) Plc ''granted'' permission for airlines to move into the new airport on July 19. But in reality, airlines have not been able to do so until lately, partly because of their own internal preparation problems, like getting budgets and securing supporting facilities, and airport access difficulties. My recent terminal tour showed that most of the ''offices'' purportedly for airlines remain empty rooms, with names of the carriers printed on white A-4 size sheets of paper stuck on glass walls or aluminium counters with scotch tape. Airlines would normally need six months to prepare themselves at a new site, ensuring that their complex computer systems worked efficiently and staff are suitably familiarised with the new operating environment and systems. It is common knowledge in the industry that the AoT's baggage systems have not been able to achieve the performance results AoT had hoped for in the ongoing trial runs. It still takes some 40 minutes for baggage to arrive at the carousel in the arrival halls. The readiness of the airlines and the baggage system have become the most worrisome and crucial factors that will affect passengers, rather than just the impressive terminal interior and runways which the AoT has been showcasing. The airport's mandated timing just before the peak season, in the last week of Oct when flight volume doubles, will significantly multiply the magnitude of problems if the airlines and airport are not able to operate effectively. It is a pity the Transport Ministry and AoT have chosen to only follow the Sept 28 mandate given by Mr Thaksin, come hell or high water, without rational consultations, even turning a deaf ear to the aviation industry's warnings. None of the authorities seems to have the courage to tell Mr Thaksin the truth that the airport will not be ready on Sept 28 knowing that the premier is banking on a successful opening to give him a pre- election boost. They seem to forget that the parties they should listen to more and work together very closely with are not the politicians but the carriers, their long-term business partners whose commitment to providing good passenger services is also at stake if an airport fouls up. As repeatedly suggested by global aviation experts, Mr Thaksin himself should learn from the mistakes at Hong Kong International Airport (HKIA) and Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA). Former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad wanted to pip Hong Kong and opened KLIA prematurely _ with the ensuing mess, not to mention huge embarrassment. The Hong Kong government ignored professional advice and launched HKIA anyway, and the airlines and passengers had two weeks of complete chaos. Meanwhile, the South Korean authorities patiently waited for the optimum time to open their Inchoen International Airport, and there were no glitches. Mr Thaksin should be wise enough (as he has always been in his political games) not to stubbornly push for Suvarnabhumi's early opening. What he should do, as has been asked by the industry, is to allow a few more months after Sept 28, for authorities and industry to complete all necessary work and testing to ensure the smooth launch of what the AoT calls ''the pride of Thailand''. Boonsong Kositchotethana is Deputy Assignment Editor (Business), Bangkok Post. Edited August 27, 2006 by Poowin Bunyavejchewin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raj 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2006 What's the Point of Rushing and opening the Airport when there are Still many things Not Complete/Finished?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted August 27, 2006 Is it safe to conclude that universally politicians and aviation are not meant to interact - that is if you're not after trouble ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith T 2 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 Is it safe to conclude that universally politicians and aviation are not meant to interact - that is if you're not after trouble ! Probably true. But airlines hire lots of ex-political staffers in their spindoctoring (oops I meant...Public Affairs) department... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fitri Shukri 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 What's the Point of Rushing and opening the Airport when there are Still many things Not Complete/Finished?? Its something called E G O Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith T 2 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 Its something called E G O It's simpler than that. Elections in Thailand are up soon. Thaksin's hoping to use the NBIA to boost his vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 What's the Point of Rushing and opening the Airport when there are Still many things Not Complete/Finished?? IIRC, Suvarnabhumi was delayed by many years since the Asian Economic crisis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted August 28, 2006 ..... ex-political staffers in their spindoctoring (oops I meant...Public Affairs) department excellent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted August 29, 2006 (edited) Probably true. But airlines hire lots of ex-political staffers in their spindoctoring (oops I meant...Public Affairs) department...biggrin.gif Ahem, don't s#1t bricks on yourself mate, you are studying politics Edited August 29, 2006 by S V Choong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith T 2 Report post Posted August 30, 2006 (edited) Ahem, don't s#1t bricks on yourself mate, you are studying politics Nowhere is the irrelevance of what they teach you in class more obvious than observing the distinction between the study of political science and politics in the real world. I learn much more about politics from student politics and being an MP's staffer than those grand theories the inner city chardonnay sipping leftist lecturers espouse from their ivory towers. I much prefer writing up s#1t sheets on Liberal scum on Powerpoint or strategising in real life scenarios (nothing like the warm feeling of winning an election or getting all ur agendas through a meeting) than sitting through a painful 60 minute dribble of the Melbourne Uni thought police. Maybe uni political science departments around the world could fare better by adding the real stuff as part of the curriculum like 'how to work the numbers' or 'spindoctoring/how to fend off pesky journalists 101' or 'writing a successful political speech.' Edited August 30, 2006 by Keith T Share this post Link to post Share on other sites