Edwin Yii 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2006 17 Feb 2006 - Following the 14 August 2005 737-300 accident outside of Athens, Greece, at the request of and with the concurrence of the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and the Hellenic Air Accident Investigation and Aviation Safety Board (AAIASB), Boeing has identified several enhancements to the flight crew procedures associated with the 737 Cabin Altitude Warning System. Boeing is providing advanced notice of these revisions which will be published in the following block revisions: 737-600/700/800/900 March 2006 737-200/BBJ April 2006 737-300/400/500 June 2006 These block revisions will include the following changes: 1. Add the following checklist item to the PREFLIGHT NC after the item "Window heat . . . . . . . On": Pressurization mode selector. . . . . . . . . . . . . AUTO 2. Delete the CONFIGURATION WARNING NNC from QRH Sections 0 and 15. 3. Add the new WARNING HORN - CABIN ALTITUDE OR CONFIGURATION NNC to QRH Sections 0 and 15. All steps in this NNC are recall. WARNING HORN - CABIN ALTITUDE OR CONFIGURATION Condition: An intermittent or steady warning horn sounds: * In flight an intermittent horn indicates the cabin altitude is at or above 10,000 feet. * On the ground an intermittent horn indicates an improper takeoff configuration when advancing thrust levers to takeoff thrust . * In flight a steady horn indicates an improper landing configuration. If an intermittent horn sounds inflight: OXYGEN MASKS AND REGULATORS . . . . . . . . ON, 100% CREW COMMUNICATIONS. . . . . . . . . . . . ESTABLISH Do the CABIN ALTITUDE WARNING OR RAPID DEPRESSURIZATION checklist. If an intermittent horn sounds on the ground: Assure proper airplane takeoff configuration. If a steady horn sounds inflight: Assure proper airplane landing configuration. 4. Revise FCOM/QRH warning horn terminology to state: cabin altitude/configuration warning horn cheers..and hope this will be helpful! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min Chun 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2006 Sorry..may I know more about the 'horn' ? Thanks..Cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin Yii 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2006 warning sound..like if u forgot to lower the gear...at flaps 15? somthing like tat .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Smith 1 Report post Posted August 25, 2006 Wicked stuff, Edwin! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter Sim 1 Report post Posted August 25, 2006 I heard the horns just now as i was flying the WilcoPub 737. it was annoying.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simon T 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2006 the QRH..along with FCOM vol.1 ,vol.2,MH ops supplement are updated..the new recall items are quite redundant actually..every 737 pilot should be able to distinguish the landing config warning and the cabin alt warning horn in-flight..but i guess boeing is trying to be 'extra' safe after the helios accident which could've been simply avoided by proper training.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simon T 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2006 Sorry..may I know more about the 'horn' ? Thanks..Cheers the "annoying" horn comes on when you're not in a proper take off config and you have increased the thrust on the GRD to the extent of activating the horn..e.g speedbrake handle not stowed,parking brake set,LE devices not configured for t/o,flaps not in t/o posn,and stab trim not in the green band.. the horn also comes on during flight(a steady horn,similar to the t/o config horn) if you have not put down the LDG with flaps deployed.. when the flaps are between 1 to 10 with the thurst levers between idle and approx. 10 degrees thrust lever angle..it can be silenced with ldg gear warning horn cutout switch..with the flaps at 15,u can also silence the horn with either thrust levers between idle and 10 degrees while the opposite thrust lever is greater than 30 degrees..but with both thrust levers below 30 degrees..the horn cannot be silenced and u must lower the ldg.(usually we dont come to that situation..coz according to the NP we put the gears down 1st before lowering the gear at g/s capture)..and then after flaps 15,the horn will just sound like there's no tomorrow..'less u put the gears down or u pull out the corresponding circuit breaker.. complicated ? this is just part of being a pilot.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chan CS 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2006 Are you a pilot? Simon T? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simon T 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2006 yes my friend Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min Chun 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2006 Simon..quite complicated for me.But will try to understand it.. Thanks for the clarification anywyas:) Chan, Simon is with ANA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simon T 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2006 dude....nono..i'm with the national carrier.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chan CS 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2006 wuhu~~ One more pilot in this forum!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min Chun 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2006 dude....nono..i'm with the national carrier.. Oops..Blur already and being mad.. With MAS? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simon T 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2006 yup..with MAS.. cheers to all the fellow MH pilots in this forum! and u all too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites