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2 hours ago, Kenny Sing said:

usually people didn't see the importance of air flight service in East Malaysia due to the lack of knowledge about how remote some area is. I don't mean to be mean but some people in peninsular just didn't know how difficult to move around fast in East malaysia especially when there's emergency happens. Oh by the way, i live in peninsular as well. But i do know a bit (though not much) about east malaysia.

i remember how D7 is born by obtaining the AOC with operating the RAS and end up giving up after a year operating it (despite with the subsidy from govt), leaving a bunch of fokkers in bad condition back to MASWing. So, something that is not really private sector able to cope with like example the RAS in borneo. Because it is basically a public service, and burning money to do so. it will never profitable in any measure (in totality).

Anyway, cheers everyone. Stay safe in this period.

 

6 hours ago, jahur said:

For us in east Malaysia they're essential. In a week so many stretcher pax flying to the west Malaysia and AK was not keen on getting certified for that since 2008.

Would foreign airline operate BKI-SDK 3x daily? or BKI-KCH with 4x daily? I seriously doubt that can happen unless gov fork out money to buy planes for them.

It will be fine to close down MAB provided no suspension in any routes immediately. Best solution is to sell it of to competent companies and let them immediately resume all routes. But will there be one interested to buy now with Covid now in place?

Believe it is more cost effective and beneficial for gomen to relocate resources spent on MH to upgrade and maintain hospital facilities in KCH and BKI, and supplement with contract or chartered PC-12 or King Air air ambulance .

Not that foreign airlines won't serve BKI-SDK or BKI-KCH, it is just not permitted. Believe MI, TR, KA would be happy to ply SIN-BKI-SDK, SIN-KCH-BKI, HKG-BKI-KCH, HKG-BKI-SDK. If MI or KA is allowed to set up a regional hub at BKI and KCH, could base or contract a few regional jet to feed BKI-HKG, BKI-SIN, KCH-SIN like LH/EN in Italy.

Inter city road in Sabah and Sarawak has been neglected on purpose for many years. by keeping the people poor and rely on gomen handout, those in power could demand their votes.

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2 hours ago, KK Lee said:

 

Believe it is more cost effective and beneficial for gomen to relocate resources spent on MH to upgrade and maintain hospital facilities in KCH and BKI, and supplement with contract or chartered PC-12 or King Air air ambulance .

Not that foreign airlines won't serve BKI-SDK or BKI-KCH, it is just not permitted. Believe MI, TR, KA would be happy to ply SIN-BKI-SDK, SIN-KCH-BKI, HKG-BKI-KCH, HKG-BKI-SDK. If MI or KA is allowed to set up a regional hub at BKI and KCH, could base or contract a few regional jet to feed BKI-HKG, BKI-SIN, KCH-SIN like LH/EN in Italy.

Inter city road in Sabah and Sarawak has been neglected on purpose for many years. by keeping the people poor and rely on gomen handout, those in power could demand their votes.

A lot of specialist doctors are in the west are not keen on relocating to east Malaysia. Its the same for Indonesian patients from Kalimantan sulawesi flying to Jakarta to sort any special illnesses all on Garuda and how people from Chiang Rai flew all the way to Bangkok as well on Thai.

You're aware that pc12 cant carry max stretcher? For mab they had to block 2-3 rows of seats which is why airasia bailed out. So far only private jets with wide enough cabins like the challenger and citation are capable of it. But chartering them can cost a fortune is the patient or insurance gonna fork out rm22k for an hour ride on a citation?

Look at how mi and ka did. They dumped bki and kch cause it was not feasible even using scoot is struggling for them. If they were to add the flights as well will they honor the frequency requirement. Doing just hkg-bki-sdk thrice a week doesn't cut it. Maswings was berated for poor frequency as well.

To call for improved highways look at what Pakatan did to Panborneo project. But even if that highway were to be completed no average person is going to drive from kuching all the way to kk.

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3 hours ago, flee said:

I think most people do know how badly East Malaysia was neglected in the past 60+ years. While roads and railways were being built in the Peninsula, Sabah and Sarawak were just thrown crumbs. Imagine, if all that money spend on RAS was matched by a similar amount to be spent on land infrastructure each year,  wouldn't East Malaysia have a much better land transport infrastructure after 60 years?

not that quite actually. i can agree to the point that the road infrastructure can be better but then it will not replace the necessity of RAS in east malaysia. And i do believe east malaysia should be treated better in terms of infrastructure.

Anyway, even with the budget used for road infrastructure, we still need RAS for East Malaysia. I think it is still worth while to use RAS rather than a specialize road accessing to places like bakelalan, long pasia, Kapit.

 

 

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14 hours ago, KK Lee said:

 

Believe it is more cost effective and beneficial for gomen to relocate resources spent on MH to upgrade and maintain hospital facilities in KCH and BKI, and supplement with contract or chartered PC-12 or King Air air ambulance .

Not that foreign airlines won't serve BKI-SDK or BKI-KCH, it is just not permitted. Believe MI, TR, KA would be happy to ply SIN-BKI-SDK, SIN-KCH-BKI, HKG-BKI-KCH, HKG-BKI-SDK. If MI or KA is allowed to set up a regional hub at BKI and KCH, could base or contract a few regional jet to feed BKI-HKG, BKI-SIN, KCH-SIN like LH/EN in Italy.

Inter city road in Sabah and Sarawak has been neglected on purpose for many years. by keeping the people poor and rely on gomen handout, those in power could demand their votes.

" Inter city road in Sabah & Sarawak has been neglected on purpose "... that part might be controversial, really. Gov can simply say, why do we need to build huge highways when the population in east malaysia is rather small and scattered. Just look at KK, SDK, BTU and even KCH so many white elephants... buildings, malls even houses.

I mean this is where regional turboprops & regional jets come into play. Looking at New Zealand, and most european countries, even USA thats what people normally do. Don't see them operating A320s and B737s for BKI-SDK/BKI-TWU sectors. Sure they still do, but at a very scarce frequency. Most of their frequency throughout the day will be operated by "regionals". American eagle, colgan air, air NZ ATR, Qantas Link Dash-8s etc etc... btw almost all of them are subsidised. If not subsidised... regionals will become a " FAX " ? Yes... that old Fly Asian Xpress.

Thats what Maswings used to do, give east malaysians the frequency. BKI-SDK x5 flights a day vs Redcap only x3 flights a day. Worst, after redcap took over there is no BKI-SDK-BKI flights in the late evenings nowadays, causing lots of trouble to the locals and business community. Right? People miss maswing right? Any sandakan and tawau people here wants to respond ;) thats why they need the ATRs. Coz late evenings you might only have 20 pax... but that 20pax need to fly, and they matter.

On MH really, medivac is not the only the thing they do. They also carry human remains ( there is a special rack for it ), they also carry hospital X-ray materials (there is also a special place and rack for it, to keep distance and shelter it from pax and baggages), and industrial equipment that AFAIK only MH and the cargo players can handle. All these things, they fly between east and west malaysia, yes almost on a daily basis. Not only within malaysia but also to all the international routes. 

AirAsia is fine, they are doing a great job flying the average malaysian salaryman from point A to point B with a few pos cargo. Thats great. But are they willing to install and invest on special equipment, collapsable seats, and " dedicated cargo area " that WILL require them to sacrifice baggage compartment on all their pax aircrafts? Are they also willing to invest on staff training and certification for all the things mentioned. I doubt so, and i also dont think their business model allows it.

At the end of the day, AirAsia & Malindo is great, they really are good. But, the 20pax matters & the " national airline " still matters.

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Silverfly07 said:

" Inter city road in Sabah & Sarawak has been neglected on purpose "... that part might be controversial, really. Gov can simply say, why do we need to build huge highways when the population in east malaysia is rather small and scattered. Just look at KK, SDK, BTU and even KCH so many white elephants... buildings, malls even houses.

I mean this is where regional turboprops & regional jets come into play. Looking at New Zealand, and most european countries, even USA thats what people normally do. Don't see them operating A320s and B737s for BKI-SDK/BKI-TWU sectors. Sure they still do, but at a very scarce frequency. Most of their frequency throughout the day will be operated by "regionals". American eagle, colgan air, air NZ ATR, Qantas Link Dash-8s etc etc... btw almost all of them are subsidised. If not subsidised... regionals will become a " FAX " ? Yes... that old Fly Asian Xpress.

Thats what Maswings used to do, give east malaysians the frequency. BKI-SDK x5 flights a day vs Redcap only x3 flights a day. Worst, after redcap took over there is no BKI-SDK-BKI flights in the late evenings nowadays, causing lots of trouble to the locals and business community. Right? People miss maswing right? Any sandakan and tawau people here wants to respond ;) thats why they need the ATRs. Coz late evenings you might only have 20 pax... but that 20pax need to fly, and they matter.

On MH really, medivac is not the only the thing they do. They also carry human remains ( there is a special rack for it ), they also carry hospital X-ray materials (there is also a special place and rack for it, to keep distance and shelter it from pax and baggages), and industrial equipment that AFAIK only MH and the cargo players can handle. All these things, they fly between east and west malaysia, yes almost on a daily basis. Not only within malaysia but also to all the international routes. 

AirAsia is fine, they are doing a great job flying the average malaysian salaryman from point A to point B with a few pos cargo. Thats great. But are they willing to install and invest on special equipment, collapsable seats, and " dedicated cargo area " that WILL require them to sacrifice baggage compartment on all their pax aircrafts? Are they also willing to invest on staff training and certification for all the things mentioned. I doubt so, and i also dont think their business model allows it.

At the end of the day, AirAsia & Malindo is great, they really are good. But, the 20pax matters & the " national airline " still matters.

 

 

 

I can predict what a few of them will say. Pls back up a large xray storage compartment in lahad datu, and long pasia etc. Build a specialist hospital in pensiangan.  Pay extorbitant fees to doctors to stay in the interior to give excellent medical care no need for helicopter medevec. Dont bother about the orang utans and pygmy elephants and the flaura fauna around borneo they're expendable, urbanisation is more important look at how fine peninsula is doing with all the dead tapirs and tigers killed due to loss of habitat and migration. See how relax we are with the sumatran rhino being extinct.🤣

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29 minutes ago, jahur said:

I can predict what a few of them will say. Pls back up a large xray storage compartment in lahad datu, and long pasia etc. Build a specialist hospital in pensiangan.  Pay extorbitant fees to doctors to stay in the interior to give excellent medical care no need for helicopter medevec. Dont bother about the orang utans and pygmy elephants and the flaura fauna around borneo they're expendable, urbanisation is more important look at how fine peninsula is doing with all the dead tapirs and tigers killed due to loss of habitat and migration. See how relax we are with the sumatran rhino being extinct.🤣

well said bro. haha.

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20 minutes ago, jahur said:

I can predict what a few of them will say. Pls back up a large xray storage compartment in lahad datu, and long pasia etc. Build a specialist hospital in pensiangan.  Pay extorbitant fees to doctors to stay in the interior to give excellent medical care no need for helicopter medevec. Dont bother about the orang utans and pygmy elephants and the flaura fauna around borneo they're expendable, urbanisation is more important look at how fine peninsula is doing with all the dead tapirs and tigers killed due to loss of habitat and migration. See how relax we are with the sumatran rhino being extinct.🤣

 

3 hours ago, Silverfly07 said:

" Inter city road in Sabah & Sarawak has been neglected on purpose "... that part might be controversial, really. Gov can simply say, why do we need to build huge highways when the population in east malaysia is rather small and scattered. Just look at KK, SDK, BTU and even KCH so many white elephants... buildings, malls even houses.

I mean this is where regional turboprops & regional jets come into play. Looking at New Zealand, and most european countries, even USA thats what people normally do. Don't see them operating A320s and B737s for BKI-SDK/BKI-TWU sectors. Sure they still do, but at a very scarce frequency. Most of their frequency throughout the day will be operated by "regionals". American eagle, colgan air, air NZ ATR, Qantas Link Dash-8s etc etc... btw almost all of them are subsidised. If not subsidised... regionals will become a " FAX " ? Yes... that old Fly Asian Xpress.

Thats what Maswings used to do, give east malaysians the frequency. BKI-SDK x5 flights a day vs Redcap only x3 flights a day. Worst, after redcap took over there is no BKI-SDK-BKI flights in the late evenings nowadays, causing lots of trouble to the locals and business community. Right? People miss maswing right? Any sandakan and tawau people here wants to respond ;) thats why they need the ATRs. Coz late evenings you might only have 20 pax... but that 20pax need to fly, and they matter.

On MH really, medivac is not the only the thing they do. They also carry human remains ( there is a special rack for it ), they also carry hospital X-ray materials (there is also a special place and rack for it, to keep distance and shelter it from pax and baggages), and industrial equipment that AFAIK only MH and the cargo players can handle. All these things, they fly between east and west malaysia, yes almost on a daily basis. Not only within malaysia but also to all the international routes. 

AirAsia is fine, they are doing a great job flying the average malaysian salaryman from point A to point B with a few pos cargo. Thats great. But are they willing to install and invest on special equipment, collapsable seats, and " dedicated cargo area " that WILL require them to sacrifice baggage compartment on all their pax aircrafts? Are they also willing to invest on staff training and certification for all the things mentioned. I doubt so, and i also dont think their business model allows it.

At the end of the day, AirAsia & Malindo is great, they really are good. But, the 20pax matters & the " national airline " still matters.

 

 

 

 

16 hours ago, jahur said:

A lot of specialist doctors are in the west are not keen on relocating to east Malaysia. Its the same for Indonesian patients from Kalimantan sulawesi flying to Jakarta to sort any special illnesses all on Garuda and how people from Chiang Rai flew all the way to Bangkok as well on Thai.

You're aware that pc12 cant carry max stretcher? For mab they had to block 2-3 rows of seats which is why airasia bailed out. So far only private jets with wide enough cabins like the challenger and citation are capable of it. But chartering them can cost a fortune is the patient or insurance gonna fork out rm22k for an hour ride on a citation?

Look at how mi and ka did. They dumped bki and kch cause it was not feasible even using scoot is struggling for them. If they were to add the flights as well will they honor the frequency requirement. Doing just hkg-bki-sdk thrice a week doesn't cut it. Maswings was berated for poor frequency as well.

To call for improved highways look at what Pakatan did to Panborneo project. But even if that highway were to be completed no average person is going to drive from kuching all the way to kk.

Medevac, special cargo are mostly intra state, Maswings should be sufficient to cater, MAS 738 is a luxury.

Mentioned previously, Maswings could operate a mix fleet with smaller 30-50 pax aircraft to cater for low load. Subsidizing regional like maswings is many times cheaper than MAS.

There is always 101 reasons not to change but there are alternative solution. MAS business model remain largely unchanged since 1990's, is proven financially not feasible and unsustainable. If we don't change or adapt, resources is wasted and not better utilized.

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6 minutes ago, KK Lee said:

There is always 101 reasons not to change but there are alternative solution. MAS business model remain largely unchanged since 1990's, is proven financially not feasible and unsustainable. If we don't change or adapt, resources is wasted and not better utilized.

Yes its not sustainable. The real question comes should we urbanise east peninsula and east malaysia at expense of our flaura and fauna. Look at covid. Because of the good highway in the west so many are bringing potential covid infection from the mco two weeks ago. Air travel is more environmentally friendly over highways and high migration volume of people going back and fort on the road. 

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1 hour ago, jahur said:

Yes its not sustainable. The real question comes should we urbanise east peninsula and east malaysia at expense of our flaura and fauna. Look at covid. Because of the good highway in the west so many are bringing potential covid infection from the mco two weeks ago. Air travel is more environmentally friendly over highways and high migration volume of people going back and fort on the road. 

to be honest, urbanization can't be avoided if there's a need arise, it's always timing that such needs arise. Sometimes, it's hard to juggle between the flora and fauna vs development sometimes. take a look at Tg Aru. I wasn't following the progress now, is it on hold? How i wish the old tg aru to be remain as it is.

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32 minutes ago, Kenny Sing said:

to be honest, urbanization can't be avoided if there's a need arise, it's always timing that such needs arise. Sometimes, it's hard to juggle between the flora and fauna vs development sometimes. take a look at Tg Aru. I wasn't following the progress now, is it on hold? How i wish the old tg aru to be remain as it is.

Its dead at the moment. They were cleaning up after Pakatan tookover but then they had squabble with ngos etc over the destruction of the old trees and no word whether the private land condos etc are still on the move or not. I used to come here and after planespotting to do a short stroll you can literally see a small group of hornbills and green colored birds on top the trees near the food stalls and a lot of japanese photographers used to visit here to spot birds but now japanese are also avoiding here due to Prc influx. Tun Fuad Stephen park is abandoned as well. Previous gov was too busy gentrifying for shiny stuffs without taking a look at how Langkawi manages their beaches. New gov was also mum on it. The only place i can something similar now is Shang-Ri La Rasa Ria resort at dalit bay lol.

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well, people seeing the potential of development in KK, like i said, timing. Oh, rasa ria resort, the majestic infinity natural beach with long long shoreline and soft fine sand. the very last time i'm there was like 15 years ago, i hope that it still remain as pristine as it is. By right KK shouldn't be the sole focal of development for sabah as the state govt should equally developing other city for the betterment of the state as well.

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With commercial pax market decimated due to COVID-19, airlines are now re-purposing their aircraft carry medical equipment and supply from China.

https://samchui.com/2020/03/31/special-flights-to-transport-medical-supplies-from-china/?fbclid=IwAR2-Y4-tp-KAe_x3A6GjerXzmn6ywX31OG3Hk0UDVo4MVxLk3NRJ3GrhtIk#.XoRxZogzZpl

https://samchui.com/2020/03/30/covid-19-airbus-and-boeing-work-to-support-virus-relief-efforts-8/#.XoRx1YgzZpk

Alibaba has sent their third batches of medical aid via YTO Cargo Airlines B757-28S B-2830 yesterday. YTO Cargo Airlines is KLIA's newest entrant, 11th cargo airline to fly into KUL.

https://themalaysianreserve.com/2020/04/01/covid-19-third-batch-of-alibabas-donation-of-medical-aid-arrived-in-malaysia/?fbclid=IwAR3y0fkOiXfykjbH6gI6eYJZdHFaQMRzXK8MbRaYIzcwyl6i4l9PG2gUyFE

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Troubled local carriers to get RM10bil help from Khazanah?

KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia’s cash-strapped airlines could get up to RM10 billion financial assistance from Khazanah Nasional Bhd.

Sources said the potential RM10 billion would specifically be in the form of loans guaranteed by Khazanah to help the local carriers cope with the Covid-19 pandemic.

This was meant as a short-term relief for them to cover operating cost and improve liquidity, a source told the New Straits Times.

The pandemic has exacerbated the local carriers’ yields and profitability, which had already been compressed by overcapacity and irrational levels of competition particularly in Asia Pacific.

“The assistance depends on how long the Covid-19 crisis will last. Most airlines have cash reserves less than a month to keep their operations, except AirAsia Group,” the source said.

He said the government’s intervention via the sovereign wealth fund would be critical at this juncture to assist local airlines such as Malaysia Airlines Bhd, AirAsia, Firefly and Malindo Air as the air transport industry supported about 450,000 jobs in Malaysia in 2018.

More: https://www.nst.com.my/business/2020/04/580216/troubled-local-carriers-get-rm10bil-help-khazanah

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15 hours ago, JuliusWong said:

Alibaba has sent their third batches of medical aid via YTO Cargo Airlines B757-28S B-2830 yesterday. YTO Cargo Airlines is KLIA's newest entrant, 11th cargo airline to fly into KUL.

During this Covid-19 airline shutdown period, we get to see a lot more cargo flights - even pax aircraft flying in is carrying mainly cargo, e.g. Xiamen Air upgraded their usual B737 to B787. MAS kept their A330 service to Hong Kong.

Good to see YTO in KUL, finally! Too bad we are not able to spot at KLIA now! Here is an old pix of the B757 that I managed to catch at Narita. 

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was wondering, using non cargo aircraft i.e passenger aircraft and use it for cargo transporting purposes, is it better than letting the aircraft sitting on tarmac? i'm seeing cargo delays in the manufacturing due to current situation. and this thought flash across my mind.

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35 minutes ago, Kenny Sing said:

was wondering, using non cargo aircraft i.e passenger aircraft and use it for cargo transporting purposes, is it better than letting the aircraft sitting on tarmac? i'm seeing cargo delays in the manufacturing due to current situation. and this thought flash across my mind.

Yes, as long as the aircraft is up in the air, it should be earning money. Yield is another story, better than sitting on tarmac not generating any income. Current cargo delay is mainly due to nation restriction, some countries are in complete lockdown and ban flights from other countries or overflying their countries, even essential service are not working or working at limited capacity. Some nations took less restricted approach whereby essential services are still working.

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Virgin Australia and Virgin Atlantic are heading stormy clouds as both countries' government will not extend loan or bailout for them. The latter is in slightly better position as its bail out is backed by Rolls Royce, Airbus and Heathrow Airport.

Scott Morrison casts doubt on billion dollar Virgin bail out

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-scott-morrison-casts-doubt-on-virgin-australia-bail-out/92e50326-d13d-4f08-b685-1d8237774b80

Virgin warns of price hikes under Qantas monopoly as bailout hopes stay alive

https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/virgin-warns-of-price-hikes-under-qantas-monopoly-as-bailout-hopes-stay-alive-20200402-p54ghj.html

Coronavirus: Aviation giants lobby for Virgin Atlantic bailout
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-aviation-giants-lobby-for-virgin-atlantic-bailout-11966892

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Lessors exposed to more than 800 near-term jet deliveries

https://www.flightglobal.com/fleets/lessors-exposed-to-more-than-800-near-term-jet-deliveries/137619.article

Former airline chiefs on government role in airline survival and future shape of sector

https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/former-airline-chiefs-on-government-role-in-airline-survival-and-future-shape-of-sector/137694.article

Interesting comment by former Malaysia Airlines former CEO:

Asked if this could see some governments prop up perennially failing state-owned carriers, Mueller suggests there are some cases where airlines are crucial to wider national requirements.

“There is legitimate interest of states to keep their lifelines intact,” he says, pointing to examples where connectivity is crucial to trade routes. “I think the airline industry is a piece of national infrastructure and it’s legitimate to support it where it is necessary for the local industry, particular if there is no other player with the ability to step in.

“I’m not advocating government support – but I can very well understand on a temporary basis and in a very targeted way, it might be of national interest to support aviation and the airline industry in order to keep the supply chain for export-orientated places… intact.”

But Mueller believes there is no justification behind propping up failing state-owned carriers simply to retain levels of national employment. “That is a distortion which we should get rid of,” he says. “I believe it is not a good use of taxpayer money because it is not an investment, it is just spending.”

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On 3/31/2020 at 7:48 PM, jahur said:

To call for improved highways look at what Pakatan did to Panborneo project. But even if that highway were to be completed no average person is going to drive from kuching all the way to kk.

for Pan Borneo highway completion, it just not matter about from Kuching to Kota Kinabalu only. better road condition will eventually benefits user within Sarawak as it's very demanding also, same as Sabah; and connecting from Kuching to Kota Kinabalu/any part of the state is a bonus for someone needed to travel by bus. 

 

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43 minutes ago, Samuel Chy said:

for Pan Borneo highway completion, it just not matter about from Kuching to Kota Kinabalu only. better road condition will eventually benefits user within Sarawak as it's very demanding also, same as Sabah; and connecting from Kuching to Kota Kinabalu/any part of the state is a bonus for someone needed to travel by bus. 

You are 100% right! :good:

The experience in the Peninsula is that the NS highway helped open up the less developed states. All along the highway, we see new residential, commercial and industrial development. The highway served as a catalyst to development. The same is now going on with the East Coast highway. I think the Pan Borneo highway will open up the areas where it passes and it will also improve logistics to the smaller and less developed towns, just like the highways on the Peninsula has done.

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Due to COVID-19, Virgin Atlantic has brought forward A340-600 retirement to 24th March 2020.

https://blog.virginatlantic.com/farewell-and-thank-you-to-our-a340-600s/

The last four (Left to Right) G-VWEB "Surfer Girl", G-VWIN "Lady Luck", G-VNAP "Sleeping Beauty Rejuvenated" and G-VFIT "Dancing Queen", and are now in storage at Bournemouth Airport. G-VWEB is now re-registered as 2-EALL with European Aviation Group.

 

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On 3/30/2020 at 3:48 PM, KK Lee said:

MAHB is already offer incentive to attract airlines to serve KUL. To encourage competition and suppressed airfare, gomen could spend more to attract more foreign airlines to serve KUL. Without MH, ticket price to US and EU is not more expensive than previously.

KUL isn't LHR. Airlines aren't tripping over one another to serve KUL, and no incentive is great enough to change their minds. You want to connect a second-rate market like Malaysia to the world? You're going to need a national carrier.

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1 hour ago, Chris Tan said:

KUL isn't LHR. Airlines aren't tripping over one another to serve KUL, and no incentive is great enough to change their minds. You want to connect a second-rate market like Malaysia to the world? You're going to need a national carrier.

KUL is already pretty well connected to the world via BKK, SIN, HKG, DXB, DOH, AUH, LHR, NRT, ICN, CAN and AMS.

Incentive to airlines (e.g LH, QF, NZ, AF, etc) need not insist non-stop to/from EU or AUS, extension from SIN or BKK is affordable and feasible. This 3 years incentive is to incubate demand for foreign airlines. Hopefully, after incentive, they could continue via SIN/BKK or non-stop to their hub.

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