I. Wong 0 Report post Posted April 8, 2019 MAB introduced three types of economy fares: Economy Lite (which come with no checked luggage allowance), Economy Basic (with 20kg checked luggage) and Economy Flexible (with 25kg checked luggage). This is the first time I have seen this when trying to book a domestic flight. I don't think I have come across any news regarding this change. Basically, if you want to travel with MAB with checked luggage, you need to pay much more than before. This may just make their fares not competitive when compared with AK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I. Wong 0 Report post Posted April 8, 2019 If you just buy Economy Lite ticket and then add a 20kg checked luggage, it will cost you RM303.16 for a 20kg luggage alone. Something is not right here for MAB. So, basically, those who need to check in luggage should select Economy Basic, rather than Lite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter Sim 1 Report post Posted April 8, 2019 I've seen malindo hand carry only fares recently too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Suhaimi Fariz 2 Report post Posted April 8, 2019 If it worked for the American airlines, it damn well will work here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) MAB introduced three types of economy fares: Economy Lite (which come with no checked luggage allowance), Economy Basic (with 20kg checked luggage) and Economy Flexible (with 25kg checked luggage). This is the first time I have seen this when trying to book a domestic flight. I don't think I have come across any news regarding this change. Basically, if you want to travel with MAB with checked luggage, you need to pay much more than before. This may just make their fares not competitive when compared with AK.Light option is practiced by lh and ba on intra Europe sectors. Mh often take good idea but almost always implement badly and miss the original objective. Edited April 8, 2019 by KK Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I. Wong 0 Report post Posted April 8, 2019 I know many airlines have hand bag only fares, but for MAB to charge RM303 for a 20kg luggage is simply unreasonable (even AK charge around RM26-30 for a 20kg luggage). I hope this is an error in the system, but most people would either choose Basic fare which is inclusive of 20kg luggage, or stick on Lite fare with hand carry luggage only. Previously, I always travelled with MAB domestically because their fares came with 30kg checked in luggage and inflight meal, if the fares were just slightly more expensive than AK. I used to pay between RM100 and RM130 one way for flight between KUL and Sarawak. But now, to have 20kg luggage (plus meal) included in your ticket, I need to pay around RM200 one way. The gap between AK and MH is widening in my opinion when one can still get AK ticket for less than RM150 inclusive checked in luggage and meal. In some highly competitive domestic routes, I don't think it will do anything good to MAB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
affendi osman 0 Report post Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) Tried to do dummy booking, KUL - AOR Economy lite : 119.06 (7kg carry on luggage) Economy basic : +50.88 (7kg carry on + 20kg check in luggage) Economy flexi : +150.52 (7kg carry on + 25kg check in luggage) To KCH Economy lite : 319.40 Economy basic : +60.42 Economy flexi : +200.34 Edited April 8, 2019 by affendi osman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CH Teo 0 Report post Posted April 8, 2019 MAB introduced three types of economy fares: Economy Lite (which come with no checked luggage allowance), Economy Basic (with 20kg checked luggage) and Economy Flexible (with 25kg checked luggage). This is the first time I have seen this when trying to book a domestic flight. I don't think I have come across any news regarding this change. Basically, if you want to travel with MAB with checked luggage, you need to pay much more than before. This may just make their fares not competitive when compared with AK. I don't think add on baggages rate would change, it SHOULD NOT BE an error. When Malindo rolled out their Super Savers on March 15 earlier on, the add on rate DOES NOT change at all. For 5 KGS only, charges is from RM 70+.... I welcomed this change personally, it should be competitive during LOW SEASON. At least I DO NOT NEED TO SEE RM 300 PER WAY AS LOWEST ECONOMY FARES TO KUL FROM SARAWAK DURING NON SALES PERIOD like previously! WIth RM 300, almost can get a premium flex on AK already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lim Kar Yong 0 Report post Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) Looks like this is for domestic flights only. I tried doing a dummy booking for international flights, luggage is still included. However economy basic luggage is now reduced to 25kg. Edited April 8, 2019 by Lim Kar Yong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I. Wong 0 Report post Posted April 8, 2019 Looks like this is for domestic flights only. I tried doing a dummy booking for international flights, luggage is still included. However economy basic luggage is now reduced to 25kg. They have just updated their FAQ https://mhcare.malaysiaairlines.com/faq/s/article/How-much-is-my-free-baggage-allowance?language=en_US Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted April 8, 2019 Tried to do dummy booking, KUL - AOR Economy lite : 119.06 (7kg carry on luggage) Economy basic : +50.88 (7kg carry on + 20kg check in luggage) Economy flexi : +150.52 (7kg carry on + 25kg check in luggage) To KCH Economy lite : 319.40 Economy basic : +60.42 Economy flexi : +200.34 I dont know which dates you keyed in but the "new" Economy lite fare you quoted there was the old normal economy fare that came with free 25kg checked luggage. MH should at least offer a notch lower for the economy lite fare as "headline" fares Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
affendi osman 0 Report post Posted April 8, 2019 I dont know which dates you keyed in but the "new" Economy lite fare you quoted there was the old normal economy fare that came with free 25kg checked luggage. MH should at least offer a notch lower for the economy lite fare as "headline" fares I'm using MHmobile, for journey on the 19th April Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 Report post Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) Well this could have been implemented better. How about some heads-up instead of immediate effect? And what if pax has elite status (either with MH/OW) - are they still given the extra baggage allowance for Y Lite fares? Btw, why do people need that much baggage allowance (I get it if you are moving or if you are traveling to temperate countries etc.) but for a holiday, 20kg is a lot. PS: Can we have a separate thread instead of getting buried in here? Edited April 8, 2019 by Craig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Azizul Ramli 2 Report post Posted April 8, 2019 Light option is practiced by lh and ba on intra Europe sectors. Yes, on BA, the term is "Economy Basic" or the "hand baggage only" fare. I noticed this fare is popular among business customers who commute daily and weekend travellers. On a good day, this fare is always under £100 for a return trip. I am a hunter of this fare. I once got a return trip LHR-LIS during a weekend for £90. In my book, any BA's return fare under £100 is a bargain. Btw, why do people need that much baggage allowance (I get it if you are moving or if you are traveling to temperate countries etc.) but for a holiday, 20kg is a lot. It depends tho. On my last trip to DPS, the luggage was 25 kg on departure as I had to dress to impress during this trip. Shoes alone take a lot of space. But the baggage allowance was 40 kg, so no biggie really. It was an 8 days trip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert 0 Report post Posted April 9, 2019 Was chatting to the Malindo staff at KL sentral and they told me that customers impacted by the new fare types and been giving them a hard time because they assumed that luggage was included and then were subsequently hit with a bill if they want to take their bags. In addition its been proven in the fast that with these types of fares you get the less for around the same money. If you want the same perks as before then it will cost you more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted April 9, 2019 Was chatting to the Malindo staff at KL sentral and they told me that customers impacted by the new fare types and been giving them a hard time because they assumed that luggage was included and then were subsequently hit with a bill if they want to take their bags. In addition its been proven in the fast that with these types of fares you get the less for around the same money. If you want the same perks as before then it will cost you more. That is the whole idea, isn't it? The airline needs to boost its revenue! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted April 9, 2019 (edited) That is the whole idea, isn't it? The airline needs to boost its revenue!Every company wish to have higher revenue and could price it's products at whim and fancy e.g RM2000 beef burger. The question is how many customers are willing to pay for it and what would be resulted revenue. With this basic fare also mean next step for mh is to sell foods on board. Edited April 9, 2019 by KK Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Tan 0 Report post Posted April 9, 2019 In addition its been proven in the fast that with these types of fares you get the less for around the same money. If you want the same perks as before then it will cost you more.Well, some people here wanted MH to become profitable one way or another..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lim Kar Yong 0 Report post Posted April 9, 2019 So bottom line: international flights see a reduction of free baggage allowance on economy class to 20kg, depending on fares. I think most airlines do this now, I recall SQ also offers something similar - please correct me if I am wrong. domestic flights see the elimination of free baggage allowance for the cheapest fare. If it is a day or overnight trip, I think I would not mind this since I would not be checking in any baggage. But it affects those who are on longer trips/holidays, hence advanced planning might be required what fare to purchase or if additional baggage allowance might be neededfor domestic lite fare, it seems those with elite status have no added advantage with additional baggage allowance, except for priority boarding. Summary, MH is moving ahead with what many Europeans and American carriers are doing. Next - meals/drinks to be purchased for domestic flights? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted April 9, 2019 (edited) Next - meals/drinks to be purchased for domestic flights?For MH, domestic flights on the peninsula are about 1½ hours, max. Food and drink is not considered a necessity. So pax are more likely to skip food and drink if they are asked to pay extra. For flights to East Malaysia, there is a greater need. So if MAB charges for them, it might be another revenue stream... Edited April 9, 2019 by flee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jahur 0 Report post Posted April 9, 2019 For MH, domestic flights on the peninsula are about 1½ hours, max. Food and drink is not considered a necessity. So pax are more likely to skip food and drink if they are asked to pay extra. For flights to East Malaysia, there is a greater need. So if MAB charges for them, it might be another revenue stream... I dun mind paying extra for food if it reduces the fare for domestic. Am getting sick of Nasi Lemak, or Chicken noodle for bfast every week especially with BKI catering. I still recall back then they would rotate to roti jala or sausage and omellete. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lim Kar Yong 0 Report post Posted April 9, 2019 So bottom line: international flights see a reduction of free baggage allowance on economy class to 20kg, depending on fares. I think most airlines do this now, I recall SQ also offers something similar - please correct me if I am wrong. domestic flights see the elimination of free baggage allowance for the cheapest fare. If it is a day or overnight trip, I think I would not mind this since I would not be checking in any baggage. But it affects those who are on longer trips/holidays, hence advanced planning might be required what fare to purchase or if additional baggage allowance might be needed for domestic lite fare, it seems those with elite status have no added advantage with additional baggage allowance, except for priority boarding. Summary, MH is moving ahead with what many Europeans and American carriers are doing. Next - meals/drinks to be purchased for domestic flights? MH updated the baggage allowance here for elite status: https://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/enrich/news-promotions/revision-economy-class-free-baggage-allowance/revision_economy_class_free_baggage_allowance.html?cid=PDM85519&bid=1291446414 So for Lite fare, elite status customers are still entitled to check in luggage it seems: silver: 5kg gold: 10kg platinum: 15kg. 5kg free check in baggage allowance? seriously? It is a bit of a joke, right. For MH, domestic flights on the peninsula are about 1½ hours, max. Food and drink is not considered a necessity. So pax are more likely to skip food and drink if they are asked to pay extra. For flights to East Malaysia, there is a greater need. So if MAB charges for them, it might be another revenue stream... True. I don't even take the peanuts and orange juice offered for domestic flights in Peninsular. But I would appreciate a meal for flights to East Malaysia, and I would always order a meal whenever I take AK flights to East Malaysia, especially if the flights are early morning or around meal times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Tan 0 Report post Posted April 9, 2019 (edited) 5kg free check in baggage allowance? seriously? It is a bit of a joke, right. https://youtu.be/FDDr_CAwaeM Edited April 9, 2019 by Chris Tan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
V Wong 0 Report post Posted April 9, 2019 MH updated the baggage allowance here for elite status: https://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/enrich/news-promotions/revision-economy-class-free-baggage-allowance/revision_economy_class_free_baggage_allowance.html?cid=PDM85519&bid=1291446414 So for Lite fare, elite status customers are still entitled to check in luggage it seems: silver: 5kg gold: 10kg platinum: 15kg. 5kg free check in baggage allowance? seriously? It is a bit of a joke, right. True. I don't even take the peanuts and orange juice offered for domestic flights in Peninsular. But I would appreciate a meal for flights to East Malaysia, and I would always order a meal whenever I take AK flights to East Malaysia, especially if the flights are early morning or around meal times. The tables are simple to use, both for MAB check in agent and customers? No? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 Report post Posted April 9, 2019 That is the whole idea, isn't it? The airline needs to boost its revenue! Yes. But Some heads-up will be appreciated. If it weren't for this thread, I wouldn't have known MH *AND* OD has introduced HBO fares. For domestic/regional flights, I usually just go for the cheapest fare family unless I have a reason to buy J. MH updated the baggage allowance here for elite status: https://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/enrich/news-promotions/revision-economy-class-free-baggage-allowance/revision_economy_class_free_baggage_allowance.html?cid=PDM85519&bid=1291446414 So for Lite fare, elite status customers are still entitled to check in luggage it seems: silver: 5kg gold: 10kg platinum: 15kg. Well their Maths is wrong. 100% increase from 0kg is still 0kg. So the sweet spot is Gold/OWS for domestic flights In all seriousness, this is much better than EU HBO or US Basic Y fares. Elites still get some baggage allowance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites