Ameq 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2017 https://www.qatarairways.com/en/press-releases/2017/Oct/qatar-airways-to-launch-service-to-exotic-malaysian-holiday-dest.html?activeTag=Press-releases# Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SS Lee 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2017 This is such great news. And they're coming with the Dreamliner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Bandit 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2017 hint for QR to buy MH stake, maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suadrif 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2017 Nobody in their right mind will buy MH right now. Maybe they will take it if it was for free... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amirul Mazlan 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2017 Salute to Qatar. Heard they are flying to Medan and Surabaya as well? Next should be Kota Kinabalu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Azizul Ramli 2 Report post Posted October 17, 2017 Congrats to PEN.  We've been discussing about this since 2007/2008 when nastar is still working with QR. It finally materialises.  Boeing 787 Dreamliner, which features 22 seats in Business Class and 232 seats in Economy Class  Flight Schedule: Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday Doha (DOH) to Penang (PEN) QR850 departs: 02:30 arrives 14:30 Penang (PEN) to Doha (DOH) QR851 departs: 20:30 arrives 23:20 Next in line has to be BKI. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alif A. F. 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2017 Yay! Congrats Penang! Perhaps can stopover in Penang after this for travel to Europe or beyond.. Â And, dont think KK will hv that market at the moment... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Azizul Ramli 2 Report post Posted October 17, 2017 C'mon. If they can fly to Krabi, I don't see why KK can't. I think Krabi is a lesser market than KK. Krabi airport handled 4 million pax in 2016 vs 7 million in BKI. I think QR would be keen to venture into Borneo for the first time and where else to start a footprint in Borneo if not at its largest airport. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alif A. F. 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2017 Well, I think its a fact that there is no efficient way to get out of Borneo unless you fly...that is why pax figures is high... Â So, what im trying to say is that perhaps most pax travel in and out of BKI are travelling domestic apart from North Asia. Pax from Middle East and beyond might not be that much compared with Penang. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2017 Am I the only one who chuckled at "Exotic Malaysian Holiday Destination"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) C'mon. If they can fly to Krabi, I don't see why KK can't. I think Krabi is a lesser market than KK. Krabi airport handled 4 million pax in 2016 vs 7 million in BKI. I think QR would be keen to venture into Borneo for the first time and where else to start a footprint in Borneo if not at its largest airport.Qr is likely to tag bki to sgn, pen or kul to start. If load on pen-doh is sustainable will be a loss for mh to Europe. Edited October 17, 2017 by KK Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Tan 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2017 C'mon. If they can fly to Krabi, I don't see why KK can't. I think Krabi is a lesser market than KK. Krabi airport handled 4 million pax in 2016 vs 7 million in BKI. I think QR would be keen to venture into Borneo for the first time and where else to start a footprint in Borneo if not at its largest airport. But Krabi gets a lot more western tourists than KK which is more popular among East Asian tourists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alif A. F. 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2017 But Krabi gets a lot more western tourists than KK which is more popular among East Asian tourists. Exactly my point. I hope QR can grow traffic in PEN significantly through QR's transit hub in DOH. Â With current flight bans by several Mideast countries for QR..I guess traffic will mostly be sourced from Europe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) But Krabi gets a lot more western tourists than KK which is more popular among East Asian tourists. Which means we in KK need to tweak our available products to draw in the westerners too  If and when QR arrives at BKI, I think we can say bye bye to BI thereafter Edited October 18, 2017 by BC Tam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jahur 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) QR and EK have already checked out BKI years ago and can load up into the gds anytime. Its only a matter of sustaining load which is difficult. Â Bki's growth is mostly catering tourist multi frequency flights from China and south korea almost 12-15 flights a day. Visitor numbers from europe remains the same. While gulf tourist feel Sabah's resort and facilities are not luxurious as thailand and shopping is non existant. Â So QR has to really market bki well to the westerners instead of their locals if it wants the route to do well. Edited October 18, 2017 by jahur Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike P 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2017 Applause! Applause! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Azizul Ramli 2 Report post Posted October 18, 2017 Qr is likely to tag bki to sgn, pen or kul to start. Â Via PEN or KUL, has that been done in the past/do we have a precedent (I mean a foreign airline serving 2 destinations in Malaysia as a tag on)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) Â Via PEN or KUL, has that been done in the past/do we have a precedent (I mean a foreign airline serving 2 destinations in Malaysia as a tag on)? Bki via pen or kul is unlikely to have 5th freedom right. If mavcom doesn't approve domestic tag then it will benefit other airport, not that qr must tag bki with pen or kul. Edited October 18, 2017 by KK Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted October 18, 2017 Â Via PEN or KUL, has that been done in the past/do we have a precedent (I mean a foreign airline serving 2 destinations in Malaysia as a tag on)? Maybe foreign airlines operating freighters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted October 18, 2017 Qr is likely to tag bki to sgn, pen or kul to start. QR used to operate KUL-HKT as a tag on but it did not last due to poor traffic. If it is a tag on, BKI might suffer the same fate. Â Now, QR will need to assess the impact the DOH-PEN route has on DOH-KUL traffic before it considers another Malaysian destination. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) QR used to operate KUL-HKT as a tag on but it did not last due to poor traffic. If it is a tag on, BKI might suffer the same fate. Â Now, QR will need to assess the impact the DOH-PEN route has on DOH-KUL traffic before it considers another Malaysian destination. Qr tagged hkt to kul before starting non stop doh-hkt. Reasons to tag hkt to kul was to test hkt market at minimum cost and give hkt load to grow to justify non stop from doh. Edited October 18, 2017 by KK Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nrazmoor 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2017 Congrats to PEN..!! quite surprise they didn't start it with a tag on first like they did with HKT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izanee 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2017 Cathay pacific used to fly HKG-KUL-PEN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted October 18, 2017 Cathay pacific used to fly HKG-KUL-PEN Yes, thats right. Was operated by 773 and the plane overnighted in PEN. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted October 18, 2017 Qr tagged hkt to kul before starting non stop doh-hkt. Reasons to tag hkt to kul was to test hkt market at minimum cost and give hkt load to grow to justify non stop from doh. I think the majority of QR pax do not originate from DOH - so they have already transited once in DOH. If you ask them to transit again in KUL before going to HKT, it is one stop too much. That was probably why loads on KUL-HKT were not good while DOH-HKT worked well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites