Tom/PER 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2017 Hi folks, Anyone know what's happened to Malindo's 9M-LCL? Flew 24-26 Jan BFI-HNL-PNI-KUL as MXD01 and then flew out to BTH late on the 26th as MXD5002 but no movements seen since on FR24. Usually they go into service fairly quickly so I'm a bit suspicious something is afoot with this one. Any info? Also 9M-LCM is ready for delivery and should go any day now. Next one is 9M-LCP ln 6282 and should be making first flight any day too. -LCK the one which carries the '178th Lion Group' B737-800 is still yet to enter service and this one arrived well before -LCL. They are both taped up and seemingly in storage at Batamaerotechnic, use that # on IG and you'll find some images of them in the background of other shots at BTH. Both -LND which entered service 8 days before -LNC are currently flying about without IFE installed so this might be a factor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amirul Mazlan 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2017 They are not getting seats fast enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted February 11, 2017 They are not getting seats fast enough. Seats? Those aircrafts are delivered without seats? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted February 11, 2017 Seats? Those aircrafts are delivered without seats? Yes, that was what they have been doing. Fit the interior after they are delivered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom/PER 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2017 -LND has some second-hand seating components installed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amirul Mazlan 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2017 Aircraft ferried with only 12 business class seats installed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeO 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2017 To my knowledge there is no A330 coming to OD in the near term. The JED flight will be operated using the B739, with a stopover in Ahmedabad. http://www.bharian.com.my/node/245747 Yup. Just read the news report few days ago. The Jeddah flight will be with stopover. Was guessing they going to use A330 since it's indicated in wikipedia that A330 will be added to Malindo's fleet. Was wondering though, why the airlines buying A330 when they plan to fly to any europe destination in the future. A330 surely cant do direct from kul to any european cities. Isn't it better to get Boeing 777? Just my 2 cents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jahur 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) Yup. Just read the news report few days ago. The Jeddah flight will be with stopover. Was guessing they going to use A330 since it's indicated in wikipedia that A330 will be added to Malindo's fleet. Was wondering though, why the airlines buying A330 when they plan to fly to any europe destination in the future. A330 surely cant do direct from kul to any european cities. Isn't it better to get Boeing 777? Just my 2 cents. The fuel burn and weight of the b777(especially the 200 series) is not so economical for todays standard. Current A330-300 the CEO designated and upcoming NEO are more efficient to use provided seating capacity and cargo payload is adjusted accordingly in order to fly to Europe. If not mistaken flights to europe will only be a problem if airlines plan to fit them with more passengers hence payload restriction on fuel and performance to meet mtow criteria will result less range given. Edited February 11, 2017 by jahur Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted February 12, 2017 I don't think Malindo's priority is to serve Europe. Other than London, other European destinations are not particularly viable. Where Malindo's A330s will fly to are the regional destinations in Asia Pacific and the Middle East. Although they are starting Jeddah with a B739, I am sure it will be upgraded to the A330 in future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobK 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2017 Gentlemen, thanks for the info on the Malindo 737s. Still no sign of 9M-LCM moving at BFI. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted February 12, 2017 Too bad Lion, the parent company of Malindo, cancellled the B787. Otherwise it would've been the perfect aircraft for their future long distance destinations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) Too bad Lion, the parent company of Malindo, cancelled the B787. Otherwise it would've been the perfect aircraft for their future long distance destinations.Guess after chrunching the numbers, the cost of acquiring and maintaining three B787 with different maintenance log and specification is just too much for cost conscious budget airline like Lion Air. Edited February 13, 2017 by JuliusWong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted February 13, 2017 Weren't those 787s destined for Lion Air the problematic first builds with plenty of inherent deficiencies ? Has Boeing managed to flog them off yet ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2017 Weren't those 787s destined for Lion Air the problematic first builds with plenty of inherent deficiencies ? Has Boeing managed to flog them off yet ?Yes, they were from first batch of B787. Every single one of them has its own specific issue and need to dealt with individually. Last read Boeing managed to offload all of them except one which they write off the value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yang Zulhilmi 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2017 Weren't those 787s destined for Lion Air the problematic first builds with plenty of inherent deficiencies ? Has Boeing managed to flog them off yet ? Yes. They call it terrible teens. Those terrible teens currently flying with Ethiopian Airlines and Air Austral if I'm not mistaken Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) AirAsia Targets Fleet Growth With A320neos AirAsia expects to receive 32 aircraft in 2017. This includes 11 A320neos and six A320ceos delivered from Airbus, and 15 aircraft from third-party lessors that will go to its affiliate carriers, an airline spokesman told Aviation Daily. More: http://aviationweek.com/commercial-aviation/airasia-targets-fleet-growth-a320neos The first of those new A320ceos is now in production - MSN 7583. Edited February 16, 2017 by flee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 So it seems OD is going to propagate and expand their fleet with B737-800? Any incoming B737-900ER? How many B737-900ERs do they have so far? By the way, it seems they are rebranding this year to Batik Air Malaysia after a year of announcement Malindo Air plans more rapid expansion in 2017 as it rebrands, and closes in on Malaysia Airlineshttps://centreforaviation.com/analysis/malindo-air-plans-more-rapid-expansion-in-2017-as-it-rebrands-and-closes-in-on-malaysia-airlines-315448 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jahur 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 6 so far. Noticed so many 738s coming in but no 900ER so far even from batik. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jinprayer 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 6 so far. Noticed so many 738s coming in but no 900ER so far even from batik. No more 900ER, Max will be replacing 900ER Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 No more 900ER, Max will be replacing 900ER Max 8 or Max 9? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom/PER 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 I believe the Lion Group is the launch customer for the Max 9. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2017 Lion Group has swapped all remaining B739ER order with B738. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted February 17, 2017 Max 8 or Max 9? I believe that Malindo Air has realised that the B739 was a mistake - that was why they stopped taking it after only 6 were delivered and all subsequent deliveries were B738s. Many airlines that currently operate the B738 have gone for the A321ceo when they needed a larger capacity aircraft. The same scenario is also starting to play out with the Max/Neo orders. I believe that they will be taking the Max 8 as this will be the most suitable aircraft for their network. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Bandit 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2017 First 737-9 is already in assembly at Boeing factory with Lion Air as the launch customer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted February 17, 2017 So is 737-900ER an interior aircraft compared to A321CEO？ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
