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Egypt Air Flight MS804 Crash

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An Egyptair Airbus A320-200, registration SU-GCC performing flight MS-804 (dep May 18th) from Paris Charles de Gaulle (France) to Cairo (Egypt) with 69 people on board, was enroute at FL370 over the Mediterranan Sea about 130nm north of Alexandria (Egypt) when the transponder signals of the aircraft ceased at 02:33L (00:33Z).


The airline reported at 04:00L (02:00Z), that flight MS-804, estimated to land in Cairo at 03:10L (01:10Z), is missing and so far has not landed at any airport in reach of the aircraft.




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Strangely, FR24 states the aircraft which left CDG on the 18th of May at 2321LT has landed in CAI at 0306LT. The aircraft route shows it is off radar just off the sea from Alexandria.

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What we know so far:

 

  • Egyptair flight MS804 took off from Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport at 11.09pm local time on Wednesday night on route to Cairo International

  • Ten miles into Egyptian airspace, at 2.45am this morning, it lost communication with the radar tracking system at a height of 37,000ft

  • The plane had 66 people on board when it went missing - 56 passengers, including one child and two infants, 7 crew members and three security personnel

  • The aircraft pilot- who has not yet been named - has 6275 of flying hours, while the plane was built in 2003

  • The missing flight made radio contact 10 minutes before it disappeared from radar

     

  • Egyptair officials and the Egyptian civil aviation say the jet probably crashed into the sea

  • A rescue plane has arrived at the coordinates of the planes last know location

  • One British national has been confirmed as on board the plane

  • The nationalities include 30 Egyptians, 15 French and one each from UK, Canada, Belgium and Portugal

  • The Greek Merchant Navy has reported seeing a 'flame in the sky' in the south Mediterranean.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/egyptair-flight-ms804-missing-live-8003059

 

Wonder if the last point, points to anything significant

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19th May 2016

Egyptair flight MS 804 loss of aircraft
Airbus regrets to confirm that an A320 operated by Egyptair was lost at around 02:30 am (Egypt local time) today over the Mediterranean sea. The aircraft was operating a scheduled service, Flight MS 804 from Paris, France to Cairo, Egypt.
The aircraft involved, registered under SU-GCC was MSN (Manufacturer Serial Number) 2088 delivered to Egyptair from the production line in November 2003. The aircraft had accumulated approximately 48,000 flight hours. It was powered by IAE engines. At this time no further factual information is available.
In line with ICAO annex 13, Airbus stands-by ready to provide full technical assistance to French Investigation Agency - BEA - and to the Authorities in charge of the investigation.
The first A320 entered service in March 1988. At the end of April 2016 over 6700 A320 Family aircraft were in operation worldwide. To date, the entire fleet has accumulated nearly 180 million flight hours in over 98 million flights.
Our concerns go to all those affected.
Airbus will make further factual information available as soon as the details have been confirmed and cleared by the authorities for release.
Contacts for the media:
AIRBUS - MEDIA RELATIONS
Tel.: +33 (0)5 61 93 10 00

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What a horrible event and statistics for aircraft safety lately. Condolences to the bereaves.

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They need to find the CVR and FDR ASAP.


So far, nothing that was recovered has revealed what happened in the final moments of the flight.


In these days of in flight wifi, we should be having live transmissions of the data and voice... they can even use the same wifi system to perform those transmissions. I think the regulatory authorities really need to work on this aspect of flight safety intensely!

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They need to find the CVR and FDR ASAP.
So far, nothing that was recovered has revealed what happened in the final moments of the flight.
In these days of in flight wifi, we should be having live transmissions of the data and voice... they can even use the same wifi system to perform those transmissions. I think the regulatory authorities really need to work on this aspect of flight safety intensely!

 

Egypt authorities have deployed a submarine to hunt for CVR and FDR. Hopefully they will be recovered soon. God bless all souls ob board.

 

Btw, MS 804 crashed after 804 days MH370 disappeared.

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Egypt authorities have deployed a submarine to hunt for CVR and FDR. Hopefully they will be recovered soon. God bless all souls ob board.

 

Btw, MS 804 crashed after 804 days MH370 disappeared.

And it came down from FL370. I am not superstitious btw. Just saying.

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Scattered reports said the AC experienced smoke in cabin. Could be smoke from a detonation. Its intriguing to know what had happened to the AC.

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Scattered reports said the AC experienced smoke in cabin. Could be smoke from a detonation. Its intriguing to know what had happened to the AC.

00:26Z 3044 ANTI ICE R WINDOW

00:26Z 561200 R SLIDING WINDOW SENSOR

00:26Z 2600 SMOKE LAVATORY SMOKE

00:27Z 2600 AVIONICS SMOKE

00:28Z 561100 R FIXED WINDOW SENSOR

00:29Z 2200 AUTO FLT FCU 2 FAULT

00:29Z 2700 F/CTL SEC 3 FAULT

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Those are the ACARS messages transmitted by the plane before going down. Here are the descriptions from Telegraph UK

 

 

00:26Z 3044 ANTI ICE R WINDOW: There's a fault in the right cockpit window's heating element. The window should be heated to stave off ice but it isn't working.

00:26Z 561200 R SLIDING WINDOW SENSOR: There's a fault in the co-pilot's sliding window sensor. This sensor tells the crew if a cockpit window is closed or not.

00:26Z 2600 SMOKE LAVATORY SMOKE: Smoke has been detected in one of the lavatories. The smoke detector is an optical sensor and detects if a cloud has come between two points of light. It detects smoke but also fog inside the cabin.

00:27Z 2600 AVIONICS SMOKE: Smoke has been detected in the avionics compartment. Located underneath the cockpit, this area can be entered via a latch in the cockpit or via a latch at the nose wheel. It is a big area where all the aircraft computers are located.

00:28Z 561100 R FIXED WINDOW SENSOR: There's a fault in another cockpit window on the right side.

00:29Z 2200 AUTO FLT FCU 2 FAULT: There's a fault in the Autopilot Flight Control Unit 2. There are two channels in the control unit and losing one will result in the spare one taking over automatically.

00:29Z 2700 F/CTL SEC 3 FAULT: There's a fault in the system that controls the wing's spoilers, the portion of the wing that rises during landing. This is the final entry.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/21/smoke-in-the-cabin-what-does-the-data-from-egyptair-ms804s-senso/

Edited by Mulyadir Fitri

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Fire from the avionics. Could be amber heat from faulty nose wheel that turned into fire later on?

The debris looked pretty smashed up, indication of high speed water impact. Horrifying moments indeed for the passengers and crew.

Speculations too about bomb being detonated by a suicide bomber in the lavatory and also sightings of UFO near the vicinity of MS804 during that time.

Nothing much can be done by the pilots I guessed when it comes to by fly-wire system when its electronics are short out.

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