jahur 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2017 Have found out the -900's are operating to PER on an adhoc basis due to payload limitations on the -800's when loads are high when summer temperatures are forecast to be hot. OD151/152 today and yesterday has been operated by -LNH. But only 3 are equipped with overhead life rafts. Those 900s use up a lot of runway for takeoff if heavy and hot temp operations. OD went for more 800 series instead. One of the aspect of why the A321 sells more than 900 series.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) Lion Air has been adjusting remaining B739ER on order to B738. "In 2016 Lion was apparently able to negotiate a cancellation of 21 737s that were initially slated to be delivered in 2016 and 2017. As of the beginning of 2016 Lion had 44 737NGs remaining on order (a mix of 737-800s and 737-900s). Boeing currently only lists 10 outstanding 737NG orders for the Lion Group. Given the 13 deliveries but reduction in 34 orders, this indicates there were 21 cancellations. According to the CAPA Fleet Database, these cancellations were recorded in Sep-2016 and Oct-2016. The CAPA Fleet Database also shows that Lion Group converted 16 737-900ER orders to 737-800s in 2016, continuing a trend over the last few years in which it has opted mainly for the smaller -800 despite initially ordering the -900ER." http://centreforaviation.com/analysis/lion-group-2016-fleet-analysis-slower-growth-following-737-cancellations--increased-focus-on-fscs-321531 Edited January 10, 2017 by JuliusWong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tamizi Hj Tamby 1 Report post Posted January 10, 2017 Lion Air has been adjusting remaining B739ER on order to B738. "In 2016 Lion was apparently able to negotiate a cancellation of 21 737s that were initially slated to be delivered in 2016 and 2017. As of the beginning of 2016 Lion had 44 737NGs remaining on order (a mix of 737-800s and 737-900s). Boeing currently only lists 10 outstanding 737NG orders for the Lion Group. Given the 13 deliveries but reduction in 34 orders, this indicates there were 21 cancellations. According to the CAPA Fleet Database, these cancellations were recorded in Sep-2016 and Oct-2016. The CAPA Fleet Database also shows that Lion Group converted 16 737-900ER orders to 737-800s in 2016, continuing a trend over the last few years in which it has opted mainly for the smaller -800 despite initially ordering the -900ER." http://centreforaviation.com/analysis/lion-group-2016-fleet-analysis-slower-growth-following-737-cancellations--increased-focus-on-fscs-321531 Wow; so that means they will only receiving the Batik Air B739ERs instead of brand new aircraft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom/PER 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2017 Why does OD fly so many aircraft back/forth from Batam (BTH) using OD5001/5002? -LNG was flown there over the weekend and -LNK is just airborne from KL as OD5002. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted January 10, 2017 Isn't Batam a MRO hub for the Lion Group? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muhammad Ruzaini Ahmad 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2017 Isn't Batam a MRO hub for the Lion Group? yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alberttky 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2017 Isn't Batam a MRO hub for the Lion Group? Had the privilege of visiting the Lion's MRO centre at Batam and it will be massive by the time everything is built. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted January 10, 2017 What about the facilities of its Msian shareholder at SZB? Was that just a story-line to justify the partnership? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amirul Mazlan 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2017 Apart from payload 900ER engine is rated at 26k allowing it to take off with high loads at warmer temperature at this time of the year. 800 engines are rated at 24k thrust Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris Kim 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2017 According to a CAPA report: OD will receive A330's in 2017-2018 which will be used to launch operations into MEL & SYD! Batik Group Route launches into Australia from 2017 to 2018 in order of expected launch: Denpasar - Perth: A320CEO Denpasar - Brisbane: 737-800 Denpasar - Melbourne: A321NEO Kuala Lumpur - Melbourne: A330-300 Denpasar - Sydney: A321NEO Kuala Lumpur - Sydney: A330-300 Jakarta - Perth: A320CEO Jakarta - Melbourne: A321NEO Jakarta - Sydney: A321NEO https://centreforaviation.com/analysis/indonesias-lion-group-plans-up-to-10-new-routes-to-australia-under-the-batik-air-brand-by-end-2018-321673 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kandiah k 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2017 Interesting times ahead for KUL and OD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2017 Isn't current bilateral air agreement with Australia is maxed out already? Where will OD get her slot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris Kim 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2017 Isn't current bilateral air agreement with Australia is maxed out already? Where will OD get her slot? Nope, there is still room, remember MH has taken alot of capacity out of the market, whereas D7 has relatively remained flat. The only additions were OD's new PER-KUL route and D7's new seasonal x4 weekly increase at MEL. There is still room for atleast a daily flight out of MEL and SYD, the air service agreements only apply to MEL, SYD, PER and BNE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 Malindo now has three A330-343Es with RR Trent 700 engines allocated to it, MSN 1820, 1828, 1832. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khalil Abd Halim 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 good news...competition will always be good for consumers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 Find ak tickets to mle is expensive. Hope od will start flying to mle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted January 13, 2017 Find ak tickets to mle is expensive. Hope od will start flying to mle. MLE has always been an expensive destination - even if you can afford the airfares, other costs like hotels will burn a big hole in your pocket too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom/PER 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2017 Flew up on OD152 which was operated by -LNL, spoke to the crew and they confirmed it was due to payload limitations on the 738's due to the hot temps in Perth. A couple of weeks back we had a 43oC day and OD152 went out with no pax bags on board. Was a powerful but very long take off. So for the foreseeable future the 739ER's will stay on OD151/152 and the overnight flight OD155/156 will continue to be operated by 738's. Interesting to see -LNW and -LNY operating regional flights which they wouldn't normal operate in between EDTO flights to India and PER. OD appears to be light on for B739's at the moment with -LNG and K in the hangar and another frame operating daily to PER. Flights that are normally 739's are being subbed with 738's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted January 14, 2017 A couple of weeks back we had a 43oC day and OD152 went out with no pax bags on boardWell, that would not have won many fans on that particular flight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike P 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 Can't believe they closing down Perth! http://www.nst.com.my/news/2017/01/204286/tourism-malaysia-shut-down-four-offices-abroad-says-nazri Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) Can't believe they closing down Perth! http://www.nst.com.my/news/2017/01/204286/tourism-malaysia-shut-down-four-offices-abroad-says-nazri Ak/d7 and od are step children. Edited January 15, 2017 by KK Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 Has MH stopped flying into PER ?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izanee 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 shortsighted move by TourismMalaysia. People can travel by other airlines. They need to do more promotion now more than ever before Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 I think they have no choice because the govt. is very short of cash due to unprecedented leakages in the country's history! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izanee 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 Hahah. 4.5 million in savings is not much - just a short city break for our beloved First Lady Share this post Link to post Share on other sites