jani 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2016 Build up domestic network first before talking about interlining and code sharing please OD! Not going abroad so much first...and testing here and there... Err why must one come before the other? Can easily do both hand in hand. Codeshares and interline agreements add traffic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leon t 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2016 there goes Malindo affordable and low air fares Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted January 17, 2016 there goes Malindo affordable and low air fares Now you can fly with Rayaniair if you can't get low fares from MAB, Malindo or Airasia... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2016 Malindo Air has standardised baggage allowance across the board for jet operations, except Amristar and New Delhi. Y class: 30kg. J class: 40kg, Source: http://www.malindoair.com/the-malindo-experience/baggage2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muhammad Firdaus 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2016 Code sharing with other airline is normal, but MH with FY?? Use to fly FY on KCH-KUL route before they ceased in 2011, now they are back in KCH but don't expect the brilliant orange and white B738 on the tarmac. Great move by OD if they can move back to KLIA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yang Zulhilmi 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2016 Batik Air Malaysia? pretty sure OD will become a full service airlines after this 27JAN2016Malindo Air (OD, Kuala Lumpur Int'l) is set to be rebranded as Batik Air Malaysia as parent firm, Lion Airlines Group, seeks to more closely align its respective subsidiaries which include Batik Air (ID, Jakarta Soekarno-Hatta) and Wings Air (Indonesia) (IW, Jakarta Soekarno-Hatta). According to FlightGlobal, Batik Air (Malaysia) (OD, Kuala Lumpur Int'l) would primarily focus on international operations with its Indonesian sibling Batik Air providing it with regional feeder traffic. Together, the two carriers would not only enjoy enhanced economies of scale, but also lower unit costs. A 51/49 joint-venture between Malaysian Aerospace and Defence Industries and Lion Air Group, Malindo Air operates a fleet of eleven ATR72-600s, ten B737-800s, and six B737-900(ER)s on flights throughout Malaysia as well as to Indonesia, India, Thailand, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Nepal, Pakistan, Singapore, Australia, and China. http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/43571-malaysias-malindo-air-to-be-rebranded 26JAN2016Lion Airlines Group founder and chief executive officer Rusdi Kirana says the firm's Thai and Malaysian units - Thai Lion Air (SL, Bangkok Don Mueang) and Malindo Air (OD, Kuala Lumpur Int'l) - are considering starting longhaul flights in the next five years. Speaking to Reuters, Kirana said both subsidiaries are looking at serving Europe from 2020 onwards. He did not offer any further details. For its part, Malindo Air currently serves thirty-one destinations across Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, India, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Bangladesh, Nepal, and Australia with plans to enter the southern Chinese and Saudi Arabian markets later this year. Thai Lion Air, on the other hand, focuses its attention primarily on the Thai domestic market with regional services to Singapore Changi, and Changsha Datuopu, Hefei and Jinan in China. Both currently operate B737-800 and B737-900(ER) fleets with Malindo also operating ATR72-600s. http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/43488-lion-air-group-eyes-longhaul-expansion-from-2020-onwards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jani 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2016 Cool stuff. Malindo is poised perfectly to fill in the gap between MH and AK. Also I know many people dismiss it, but keep an eye on Rayani as well. It is not by coincidence that that airline popped out of nowhere Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2016 Cool stuff. Malindo is poised perfectly to fill in the gap between MH and AK. Also I know many people dismiss it, but keep an eye on Rayani as well. It is not by coincidence that that airline popped out of nowhere True, I agree. Until AK can sort out their PR and operational issue, OD and to smaller extent RK will be benefiting. MH is on resuscitation mode, this will give OD some time to change their product and services. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted January 29, 2016 Besides meal purchase onboard for y class, od is as good as mh, a fsc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) I suspect that Batik Air Malaysia will operate the jet fleet while Malindo Air will remain with turboprops, like Wings in Indonesia. Edited January 29, 2016 by flee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geoff R. 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2016 Any indication when the rebranding will come into effect? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted January 29, 2016 I wonder what their longhaul fleet will be. Boeing or Airbus? Do they still have the B787 on order? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted January 29, 2016 I wonder what their longhaul fleet will be. Boeing or Airbus? Do they still have the B787 on order? Lion Group have cancelled the B787 order and have taken delivery of the A330-300. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tafe 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2016 Price might increase to cover inflight meals. They should rebrand Batik Air livery as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pieter C. 5 Report post Posted January 29, 2016 Will be flying OD on 19feb16: really looking forward to it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted January 30, 2016 I wonder how much of this rebranding is driven by prospect of code sharing deals on domestic routes with foreign carriers now left high and dry on this front due to the MAB/Emirates tie up ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J. Suri 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2016 Would Batik be to MAB as Asiana to KAL or ANA to JAL? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2016 Nah, not that soon. Batik Air Malaysia might need another two to three years to be a real competitor ala ANA vs JAL. However Batik Air Malaysia will definitely put pressure on MAB recovery, not forgetting to greater extend AK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) Nah, not that soon. Batik Air Malaysia might need another two to three years to be a real competitor ala ANA vs JAL. However Batik Air Malaysia will definitely put pressure on MAB recovery, not forgetting to greater extend AK. If od corporate culture and business model remain unchanged, od will eventually overtake mh in popularity and fleet size. Edited January 30, 2016 by KK Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fitri Shukri 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2016 Batik Air Malaysia sounds nicer too, compared to Malindo. Amd I agree, Batik Air livery needs changes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Azizul Ramli 2 Report post Posted January 30, 2016 Also, rumours that Malindo/ Batik may take over some of the space currently occupied by the MH lounge at the satellite building for its own lounge. If this turns out to be true, I'm guessing the First/Emerald side will be the victim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waiping 12 Report post Posted January 30, 2016 Batik Air Malaysia sounds nicer too, compared to Malindo. Amd I agree, Batik Air livery needs changes. Slap the MH kebaya design on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ydkurniawan 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2016 KUL have more slots compare to CGK, so Batik Air Indonesia will become feeder to Batik Air Malaysia thru KUL Hub Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) KUL have more slots compare to CGK, so Batik Air Indonesia will become feeder to Batik Air Malaysia thru KUL Hub But more importantly, Malindo Air/Batik Air Malaysia is not on the EU blacklist. So, it should not be a problem for them to fly to the EU. I think that is why Lion Group is setting up affiliates outside Indonesia. I don't think many Indonesian carriers can get off the EU blacklist anytime soon. Edited January 30, 2016 by flee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris Kim 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2016 I don't like the Batik Air branding (not the name), I feel like the logo is outdated and was designed in 5 minutes by an intern. The tail design is OK, but doesn't scream FSC to me, based on the livery and branding I feel like its more like a hybrid carrier. I hope that Batik Malaysia will give the brand a refresh because the branding as it is now is not up to par with other world carriers, where they should aim too if they want to be a major player one day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites