Gavin Andrew David 6 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 Something very odd happened here. They encountered an engine failure, however they didn't nose down to accelerate. They continued climbing. In the video it looks like the aircraft is in clean configuration, which means at the speed that is shown from FR24, its amazing it took so long to drop out of the sky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 Something very odd happened here. They encountered an engine failure, however they didn't nose down to accelerate. They continued climbing. In the video it looks like the aircraft is in clean configuration, which means at the speed that is shown from FR24, its amazing it took so long to drop out of the sky. Is this flight path correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CH Teo 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 http://news.tvbs.com.tw/entry/565985 Taiwan's DCA to ground all Transasia's and UNI air's ATR 72 for at least 1 to 2 days... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 As of 11am 05/02/2015, Malaysia time, 31 confirmed dead, 15 injured and 12 remain missing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 http://news.tvbs.com.tw/entry/565985 Taiwan's DCA to ground all Transasia's and UNI air's ATR 72 for at least 1 to 2 days... In Mandarin only: http://www.chinatimes.com/realtimenews/20150205001934-260405 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenneth Chong WT 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 Anyone remembered the Tuinter Air atr72 which crashed due to wrong fuel gauge? It was said that instead of ditching...the pilots could have 'feathered' the props? Could this plane have the altitude and speed to feather the props and maybe ditch safer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 For a propeller-driven aircraft, feathering the propeller is one of the most immediate reaction to an engine failure as it helps to reduce the drag and make the aircraft more flyable. Need to read the complete report before commenting further, for now condolences to the victims. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenneth Chong WT 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 Aye aye Captain... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teoh Z Yao 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 A place so close to my heart, it's hard to learn of such news and seeing the actual crash footage. May the perished souls rest in peace and the survived healed of trauma. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alberttky 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 As an instructor myself I'm beginning to wonder the effectiveness of practices in simulators. Yes all these practices are good and necessary to sharpen the skills. The problem is our mind is such that in a sim environment we expect to see engine failures, stalls, and other various malfunctions, and when we fly often we don't expect such things to happen. And when it does happen, the startled effect kicks in and sometimes humans being humans, the brain is overwhelmed with workload and performance degrades rapidly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cire 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2015 It appears that the pilots were trying to get more height which will provide them critical time to maneuver the plane for an air-return or direct it to a safe place to crash land. Reports mentioned that the Captain was still holding on to the joystick when found. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) It appears that the pilots were trying to get more height .....I think that assumption now likely put to rest, it being disclosed now both engines lost power. Apparently one on its own and the other manually shut down Edited February 6, 2015 by BC Tam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted February 6, 2015 As an instructor myself I'm beginning to wonder the effectiveness of practices in simulators. Yes all these practices are good and necessary to sharpen the skills. The problem is our mind is such that in a sim environment we expect to see engine failures, stalls, and other various malfunctions, and when we fly often we don't expect such things to happen. And when it does happen, the startled effect kicks in and sometimes humans being humans, the brain is overwhelmed with workload and performance degrades rapidly. Also, in the sim, back in our mind we know that the worst that could happen is that we fail the check. In real life, it is a life or death situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted February 6, 2015 http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/east-asia/story/transasia-plane-blackbox-reveals-mayday-call-35-seconds-after-noticing-eng One engine failed on the TransAsia Airways plane that crashed in Taiwan this week with the loss of at least 35 lives, and the pilots may have inexplicably shut down the other, investigators and experts said Friday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted February 6, 2015 TransAsia GE235: Shutting down the wrong engine http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/transasia-ge235-shutting-down-the-wrong-engine-408790/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin Andrew David 6 Report post Posted February 6, 2015 Monumental screw up. This airline should be shut down permanently Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mulyadir Fitri 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2015 Oh God.. From hero to zero.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted February 7, 2015 Monumental screw up. This airline should be shut down permanently There was a third pilot on board too - a check captain. Quite different results from that we saw on QF32. Yes, and airline with such a small fleet should not have so many hull losses - they should be grounded immediately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michgyver 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2015 Three women take selfie at TransAsia Airways crash in Taiwan THREE women happily smile for a selfie as behind rescuers frantically search for passengers from the crashed TransAsia Airways plane in Taiwan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenneth Chong WT 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2015 Heard that the surviving cabin crew...Huang escaped death in the previous incident in Penghu Island...when a colleague exchanged their roster...this time...she was seated at the back position and also survived the crash... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alberttky 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2015 Three women take selfie at TransAsia Airways crash in Taiwan THREE women happily smile for a selfie as behind rescuers frantically search for passengers from the crashed TransAsia Airways plane in Taiwan. IDIOTS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alberttky 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2015 "The flight crew stepped on the accelerator of engine 2 (righthand side)... The engine was still operating, but neither engine produced power." http://www.thestar.com.my/News/World/2015/02/06/Pilots-body-found-still-clutching-joystick-of-crashed-Taiwan-plane--media/ Can someone please explain how flight crew "stepped on the accelerator"???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2015 TransAsia Airways has started to retrain all their ATR pilot. http://m.thestar.com.my/story.aspx?hl=TransAsia+starts+pilot+retraining+after+deadly+crash&sec=news&id=%7B9F4EE35D-AB7D-431B-9AB7-0446073705EE%7D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lim Kar Yong 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2015 Can someone please explain how flight crew "stepped on the accelerator"???? Tekan minyak lah, like kereta. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suzanne Goh 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2015 Here's the selfie in question. Not really a selfie per se http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/three-women-take-selfie-at-transasia-airways-crash-in-taiwan/story-fnizu68q-1227208770485 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites