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AirAsia Purchased 100 Airbus A321neo at Farnborough Airshow 2016

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I think Albert is referring to SQ swapping flight equipment using MI's A320.

 

 

No I mean SQ swaps plane from 773 to 772, and previously with 3 different configs within their 772, SQ, SR and SV. Passengers were upgraded, downgraded, as well as offloaded.

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From our observations at KLIA, airlines upgrade or downgrade all the time.

 

E.g. EVA Air can send the A332 one day and A321 the next. KLM also sometimes downgrades to B772 (instead of B77W) during times of lower traffic.

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From our observations at KLIA, airlines upgrade or downgrade all the time.

 

E.g. EVA Air can send the A332 one day and A321 the next. KLM also sometimes downgrades to B772 (instead of B77W) during times of lower traffic.

From my observation of your post, you seem to be referring to scheduled changes in aircraft deployment, not last minute swaps as the others are talking about.

 

E.g. EVA scheduling different aircraft on different days is not the same as AA swapping from an A321 to an A320 at the last minute.

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From our observations at KLIA, airlines upgrade or downgrade all the time.

 

E.g. EVA Air can send the A332 one day and A321 the next. KLM also sometimes downgrades to B772 (instead of B77W) during times of lower traffic.

The KL809/810 and BR227/228 conundrum you mention isn't random substitutions. They're all scheduled.

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How much difference can we expect from upgrade/downgrade between A320 and A321? It's not like swapping an A330 with A320 which, at the moment, AK is doing pretty well by informing the customer at least a few days before, and with the option to change the itinerary at no extra cost.

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How much difference can we expect from upgrade/downgrade between A320 and A321? It's not like swapping an A330 with A320 which, at the moment, AK is doing pretty well by informing the customer at least a few days before, and with the option to change the itinerary at no extra cost.

 

 

Order confirmed. Seating will be same as on the A320 - single class and super high density:

 

 

The contract marks the first order placed by AirAsia for the largest model in the best-selling A320 Family. Seating up to 240 passengers in a single class layout, the A321neo will enable the airline to increase capacity while benefitting from the lowest operating costs in the single aisle category.

http://www.malaysianwings.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=20783&p=365028

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AirAsia NEOs will features Spaceflex cabin design. FAs will hate the half sized galley at the rear.

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Moving forward Space Flex will become pretty much standard for a lot of airlines except FSC since they are all deploy on short to mid haul routes. More cookies and buns, no more hot meals.

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Keynote from the press conference:

  1. 100 A321neo firm order + 100 options*
  2. Seating 236, all Y, deleting LR and R2 exit as with Wizz Air
  3. Adopted Space Flex layout
  4. 9M-AJA which is now displayed at FIA has the new Mirus seat installed.
  5. The new order will push AirAsia A320neo family firm order to 400.
  6. TF stated some are used for replacing earlier ageing A320, and some for growth.
  7. To be powered by CFM Leap engines

Some older and newly delivered aircraft will go to AirAsia leasing arm Asia Aviation Capital Ltd. Asia Aviation Capital Ltd recently received an buyout offer for USD1 billion.

 

TF press conference is always entertaining. That was very kind of TF to acknowledge his senior management team members, especially the Chief Engineer (Ahmad Tajuddin aka Anaz) who is battling cancer.

 

*For some reason, Airbus did not mention about the 100 options in their press release, however TF mentioned this in the press conference.

Edited by JuliusWong

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Can sense there will be some conversions from 320 and 320neo to 321neo. Cant be all new 100 321neo order isnt it?

Not exactly sure on this, but this order is specifically for A321neo. I guess AirAsia Group has included contractual clauses & rights that allow them to switch between both versions (ceo to neo and A320 to A321) easily.

 

The order placed in June 2011 was for 200 A320neo firm order; then in December 2012 additional 64 A320neo and 36 A320ceo (both firm order).

 

Thus, neo firm order will be: A320neo- 264; A321neo-100

 

Overall, AirAsia has placed 575 single aisle aircraft order from Airbus, comprising 264 A320neo, 211 A320ceo and 100 A321neo.

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Airasia has converted all undelivered ceo's to neo's. So all future deliveries will be neo's. I believe Airbus is flexible on the the mix of A320s and A321s and it is possible to switch between the two.

 

Airbus orders and deliveries spreadsheet:

http://www.airbus.com/company/market/orders-deliveries/?eID=maglisting_push&tx_maglisting_pi1%5BdocID%5D=109137

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Airasia has converted all undelivered ceo's to neo's. So all future deliveries will be neo's. I believe Airbus is flexible on the the mix of A320s and A321s and it is possible to switch between the two.

 

Airbus orders and deliveries spreadsheet:

http://www.airbus.com/company/market/orders-deliveries/?eID=maglisting_push&tx_maglisting_pi1%5BdocID%5D=109137

Thank you for the correction flee. The 36 A320ceo order placed in Dec 2012 are now all neo.

 

171 A320ceo (all delivered), 304 A320neo, 100 A321neo= 575 firm order. The number tallied with what TF said.

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I wonder what engines will be ordered for the A321neos. It would be wrong for Airasia to completely rule out the PW GTFs. Many rumours are floating around that it has better fuel burn than the CFM LEAP. They would do well to study the numbers and order the right engine for the A321neos. Their fleet is big enough to support both engine types.

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Thought TF mentioned they are not buying PWs in the press conference?

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Thought TF mentioned they are not buying PWs in the press conference?

That was in reference to the A320neos. Airasia has not announced what engines will go on the A321neo.

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AIRASIA PLACES $2.7 BILLION CFM LEAP ENGINE ORDER TO POWER NEW AIRBUS A321NEO AIRCRAFT

 

LONDON, England — 13 July 2016 – In a special ceremony here today, AirAsia announced that it has ordered 200 additional CFM International LEAP-1A engines to power 100 new Airbus A321neo announced yesterday. The order, which expands its LEAP engine fleet to nearly 730 engines, is valued at $2.7 billion U.S. at list price.

“This order for the larger A321neo is an important element in our long-term growth and expansion strategy,” said Tan Sri Tony Fernandes, chief Executive Officer of AirAsia Group. ““Choosing the right engine to power them is critical to the success of that strategy. For us, the LEAP-1A was the obvious choice. This engine has demonstrated the promised 15 percent fuel efficiency and we are quite familiar with the reliability inherent in CFM products and the impact that this has on our operations.”

AirAsia, a pioneer in low-cost travel, has been a CFM customer for more than a decade. AirAsia was an early LEAP customer and placed its initial order for 400 LEAP-1A engines — the largest in aviation history at the time — to power A320neo aircraft in June 2011. The airline placed a follow-on order for 128 additional engines in 2013.

As the single largest Airbus A320 operator in the Asia-Pacific region, AirAsia operates a fleet of 170 CFM56-5B-powered Airbus A320s with 304 still to be delivered. AirAsia began operations in 2001 and has continued to see steady growth. Today, the airline and its subsidiaries operate close to 1,000 flights per day to more than 120 destinations in 24 countries.

“We believe there is no greater endorsement of the technology choices we have made for the LEAP engine than the continued confidence of an airline such as AirAsia,” said Jean-Paul Ebanga, president and CEO of CFM International. “We are looking proving to them every that they have made the right choice.”

“We love working with AirAsia and can’t wait to get the LEAP-1A into their fleet later this year,” said Chaker Chahrour, vice president of global sales and marketing for CFM parent company GE Aviation. “In many ways, AirAsia and CFM has grown up together in the past 25 years and we are honored to be part of one of the most dynamic, successful teams in the industry today.”

The LEAP-1A engine powered the first flight of the Airbus A321neo in February 2016. The engine is on track for entry into service in mid-2016 on the initial A320neo and will provide operators with a 15 percent improvement in fuel efficiency, with an equivalent reduction in CO2 emissions; a 50 percent margin to new emissions regulations; a dramatically lower noise signature; and CFM’s industry-leading reliability and low overall operating costs.

About AirAsia

AirAsia, the leading and largest low-cost carrier in Asia, services the most extensive network with over 100 destinations. Within 15 years of operations, AirAsia has carried over 330 million guests and grown its fleet from just two aircraft to over 170. The airline is proud to be a truly Asean (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) airline with established operations based in Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Philippines and India, servicing a network stretching across Asia Pacific. AirAsia has been named the World’s Best Low Cost Airline at the annual Skytrax World Airline Awards for eight consecutive years from 2009 to 2016. AirAsia is the first airline globally to collaborate with INTERPOL to implement the I-Checkit system to screen the passports of all prospective passengers against information contained in the world police body’s Stolen and Lost Travel Documents (SLTD) database.

About CFM International

The LEAP engine is a product of CFM International, a 50/50 joint company between GE and Safran Aircraft Engines. This engine has experienced the fastest order ramp up in commercial aviation history and CFM has received orders for a total of more than 10,820 LEAP engines across all three models through June 2016. For more information, visit us at www.cfmaeroengines.com or follow us on Twitter @CFM_engines.

 

https://www.cfmaeroengines.com/press-articles/cfm-news-release-airasia-places-2-7-billion-cfm-leap-engine-order-power-new-airbus-a321neo-aircraft/

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I thought they gonna put some premium cabin for the A321...

That might be done if D7 also takes the A321neo.

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LOPA- A321neo with max capacity- 240 pax (compared to current max 220 pax layout- top)

Airbus_A321neo_240_seats_Airbus-Cabin-Fl

 

 

LOPA- A320neo with max capacity- 186/189/195 pax (compared to current max 180 pax layout- top)

ceo-vs-neo-lopa.jpg

Note: A320neo is certified by EASA with 180/186/189/195 layout.

 

Spaceflex module by Zodiac

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All I can say is good luck if you are allocated in last two rows.......O.o

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