JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 Malaysian Home Minister says the passengers who used stolen European passports were of Asian appearance; criticises border officials who let them through http://www.todayonline.com/world/asia/missing-malaysian-jet-may-have-disintegrated-mid-air-source-claims Actually, one can never judge a person's legitimacy based on appearance. What if the person is a mixed blood? Not unusual nowadays....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 http://news.sohu.com/20140310/n396301247.shtml From a Chinese website, claimed to be taken by a Nasa satellite at 1135 hour on 9th March. Given there isn't any mark on photo showing is from Nasa, should take it with a pinch of salt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kee Hooi Yen 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 Don't forget these two guys have passed thru Thai immigration as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isaac 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) MISSING MH370: Vietnam says cannot find object from missing jet KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia: Vietnamese searchers on ships worked throughout night but could not find rectangle object spotted Sunday afternoon that was thought to be the doors of a Malaysia Airlines passenger jet that went missing more than two days ago. http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-color-red-missing-mh370-font-vietnam-says-cannot-find-object-from-missing-jet-1.505573?cache=03%2F7.211062%2F7.224827%3Fpage%3D0%2F7.225122%2F7.224368%2F7.425366#ixzz2vWlrAaNd Edited March 10, 2014 by Isaac Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 LATEST ON MH370: DCA says still no sign of missing aircraft, dismisses reports that parts of the plane had been located by Vietnamese authorities as of 12pm, today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike P 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 Don't forget these two guys have passed thru Thai immigration as well Actually that's the biggest issue if they could pass thru the Thai Immigration. Supposedly there's no record of these people coming in to Thailand or both have left. And since the passports were both reported missing in Thailand, Thailand Immigration should take note and scruntinise the passports that have been stolen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 LATEST ON MH370: DCA says still no sign of missing aircraft, dismisses reports that parts of the plane had been located by Vietnamese authorities as of 12pm, today. Given they didn't find anything in the last 2 days, they are searching in the wrong area and didn't take current movement into account. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kee Hooi Yen 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 Actually that's the biggest issue if they could pass thru the Thai Immigration. Supposedly there's no record of these people coming in to Thailand or both have left. And since the passports were both reported missing in Thailand, Thailand Immigration should take note and scruntinise the passports that have been stolen. Good point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Najib Ramli 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 Actually that's the biggest issue if they could pass thru the Thai Immigration. Supposedly there's no record of these people coming in to Thailand or both have left. And since the passports were both reported missing in Thailand, Thailand Immigration should take note and scruntinise the passports that have been stolen. Have to agree with that... Given that biometric fingerprinting for foreigners entering Malaysia is a must these days, I'm wondering if the authorities can quickly track where did these 2 pax enter Malaysia if they're not transit passengers.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 Given they didn't find anything in the last 2 days, they are searching in the wrong area and didn't take current movement into account. We are looking at AF447 unraveling......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adrian Meredith 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 Actually that's the biggest issue if they could pass thru the Thai Immigration. Supposedly there's no record of these people coming in to Thailand or both have left. And since the passports were both reported missing in Thailand, Thailand Immigration should take note and scruntinise the passports that have been stolen. But there's no guarantee that these guys left Thailand on the false/stolen passports. They could easily have left the country on other passports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) We are looking at AF447 unraveling......... If SAR teams couldn't find any debris by night fall, bet there is a better chance scouting for debris along the east coast shoreline. As for submersible structure, they will need to deploy towed array sonar. Edited March 10, 2014 by KK Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike P 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 But there's no guarantee that these guys left Thailand on the false/stolen passports. They could easily have left the country on other passports. Even if they're using Thailand passport to exit Thailand and enter Malaysia, how can they leave Malaysia using Italy and Austrian passports since our immigration has no their records? Unless they using Thailand passport to leave Thailand, and enter Malaysia using Italian and Austrian passports. They could be possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 China government expressed disappointment on how Malaysia government is handling MH370 incident: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/bahasa/article/kerajaan-china-kecewa-cara-pengendalian-kehilangan-mh370. Sorry in Malay Language only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adrian Meredith 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 Even if they're using Thailand passport to exit Thailand and enter Malaysia, how can they leave Malaysia using Italy and Austrian passports since our immigration has no their records? Unless they using Thailand passport to leave Thailand, and enter Malaysia using Italian and Austrian passports. They could be possible. Many people have valid passports of two countries and will leave Country A on one passport and enter Country B on a different nationality passport. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isaac 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 Actually, one can never judge a person's legitimacy based on appearance. What if the person is a mixed blood? Not unusual nowadays....... I believe that's the exact problem here. The immigration officer on duty very likely also simply assumed so and quickly jumped into conclusion that the passport holder has got to be a person of mixed-race. That is why he/she did not bother to pull information out from the Interpol database whether or not the passport is still valid and legit. That's probably a perception that needs to be changed for a better and more effective border control. Don't forget these two guys have passed thru Thai immigration as well What if they left Thailand using another passport and used this stolen passport to enter Malaysia ? It is actually possible that they used their own real passport to clear immigration in Thailand. Besides, from what i've read at A.net, some people are questioning if these two really came from Phuket the day before they boarded MH370. The tickets they bought were issued by a travel agency in Pattaya one day before the flight and some people are asking if they were present at the travel agency to buy the tickets themselves or someone else bought the tickets on their behalf. Many people have valid passports of two countries and will leave Country A on one passport and enter Country B on a different nationality passport. Spot on! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cire 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 China government expressed disappointment on how Malaysia government is handling MH370 incident: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/bahasa/article/kerajaan-china-kecewa-cara-pengendalian-kehilangan-mh370. Sorry in Malay Language only. I wondered what the PC outcome was just now... Any news? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 Even if they're using Thailand passport to exit Thailand and enter Malaysia, how can they leave Malaysia using Italy and Austrian passports since our immigration has no their records? Unless they using Thailand passport to leave Thailand, and enter Malaysia using Italian and Austrian passports. They could be possible. There are many people with multiple passports. It is acceptable to exit country A with passport Z and enter country B with passport Y. However, country B may insist to exit with passport Y only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isaac 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 I wondered what the PC outcome was just now... Any news? No. They still have not found anything that could be parts of MH370. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike P 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 There are many people with multiple passports. It is acceptable to exit country A with passport Z and enter country B with passport Y. However, country B may insist to exit with passport Y only. Only if the Country B, like Malaysia and Singapore, don't allow dual-nationalities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Najib Ramli 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 There are many people with multiple passports. It is acceptable to exit country A with passport Z and enter country B with passport Y. However, country B may insist to exit with passport Y only. Granted it's normal for people to have multiple passport for ease of entry and exit to certain countries, the fingerprints of the 2 pax should be in immigration records...I don't know how exactly the immigration biometric fingerprinting works but it should somehow tie one's fingerprint to their passport when entering the country.. that should have alerted the immigration officer handling the 2 pax when their entry and exit passport is not the same....the officer in charge would at least have to verify the details.. the only other explanation is if the 2 pax actually have Malaysian passport which would have granted them smooth entry and exit...but if so why on earth would they check in with the stolen passport..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 LATEST ON MH370: Results from lab analysis of ‘jet oil slick’ expected soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SS Lee 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 Knowing whether it is the jet fuel has two outcomes. If it is jet fuel, then the aircraft may have crashed and it has been many days since. If it is not, aircraft is still missing. Though it may mean that they could have made an (emergency) landing somewhere remote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 In my opinion, I do hope the SAR teams is about to start with land search if they have enough manpower. Both land and sea search simultaneously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) LATEST ON MH370: Results from lab analysis of jet oil slick expected soon. Jet a1 fuel is unlikely to remain at this weather. Edited March 10, 2014 by KK Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
