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MAS B772 9M-MRO Flight MH370 KUL-PEK Missing with All 239 POB Presumed Killed

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Two more JMSDF PC-3 (5031 and 5037) are expected to arrive Pearce this evening from Subang, to join the search for MH370.

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Initially thought that the battery have died down, news reported that more pings are being heard now, and optimistic of finding the resting place of the AC within days.

Will our MH370 reveal itself to us ?

 

 

“Hopefully in a matter of days, we will be able to find something on the bottom that might confirm that this is the last resting place of MH370,” Houston said at a news conference in Perth, the starting point for the search in the southern Indian Ocean

Read more: MH370 Tragedy: More underwater pings heard - Latest - New Straits Times http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-color-red-mh370-tragedy-font-more-underwater-pings-heard-1.557765#ixzz2yMIkqt9F

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I watched the news conference "live" from Perth. Very professionally handled and the facts were dished out without giving false hopes. However, we can expect a long and labourious search, even if the pings are really from MH370. It is still a big area to cover, plus it is very deep.

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Most expensive airplane search in history! To date, 24 nations have forked out about 40 mil USD for a long month search, comparing to Air France's search which was about 43 mil USD for 3 years.

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I think Malaysia will at least still put to sea its ships, and probably a C130 to patrol for at least till this full month.

For the rest of the search team, the search will continue for as long as the ping is still being heard.

After that it will be "regretfully to inform that we have done all we could to assist in the search, but the absence of the pings and the long duration since the AC disappeared over this treacherous ocean, it has made the current assets deployed currently ineffective to carry out further search, however our ships will still be around, but it too will be scaled down accordingly when it has become ineffective anymore to carry out this exercise. "

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Most expensive airplane search in history! To date, 24 nations have forked out about 40 mil USD for a long month search, comparing to Air France's search which was about 43 mil USD for 3 years.

Yes, the media is blaming MAS for not willing to pay a bit more to upgrade their pinging software, which includes GPS info. The cost is about RM50 per aircraft. Had they done that, it would not have costed so much. CX reportedly said they have upgraded theirs a long long time ago.

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Yes, the media is blaming MAS for not willing to pay a bit more to upgrade their pinging software, which includes GPS info. The cost is about RM50 per aircraft. Had they done that, it would not have costed so much. CX reportedly said they have upgraded theirs a long long time ago.

Air France had the Swift system & it still took them 2 years to find the black box.

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Air France had the Swift system & it still took them 2 years to find the black box.

They were able to narrow down the search area in the case of AF447 with SWIFT. In the case of MH370, the whereabouts is still not known!

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Yes, the media is blaming MAS for not willing to pay a bit more to upgrade their pinging software, which includes GPS info. The cost is about RM50 per aircraft. Had they done that, it would not have costed so much. CX reportedly said they have upgraded theirs a long long time ago.

 

For argument sake I will factor in the number flights since the software upgrade is available until the day MH370 is lost. That could turn out to be a big sum. Plus we don't know if other airlines are using such upgrade as well without any problem. Sometimes we look back with regret only when accident happens.

Air France had the Swift system & it still took them 2 years to find the black box.

 

Scary thought without SWIFT.

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actually for the AirFrance 447, the wreakage and site was found in 2-3 days' time. When the plane encountered bad turbulance a few systems in the flight deck have issued sa few warnings and these were sent by ACARS as once the cockpit warning lights/alarms come on ACARS will be sent. The finding of the black box after 2 yrs have nothing to do with SWIFT - as the batteries ofthe blackboxes have ran out and they have to search the sea bed for it. Having SWIFT would meant that in the event the transponder n ACARS are switched off, it will still send out signals of the plane's location - independent of the transponder.

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I kept reminding myself during this event, 'self righteousness in retrospect is easy - also cheap'

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Yes, the media is blaming MAS for not willing to pay a bit more to upgrade their pinging software, which includes GPS info. The cost is about RM50 per aircraft. Had they done that, it would not have costed so much. CX reportedly said they have upgraded theirs a long long time ago.

 

Aiya, annual net loss of billion and billion where got RM 50 to pay for the thing?

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Aiya, annual net loss of billion and billion where got RM 50 to pay for the thing?

There goes the saying: Pay now or pay more later!

 

Pretty sure RM50 is peanut compared to other costs they spent on. Suppose MAS has 100 aircraft, it only cost them RM5000 for the software.

Edited by S V Choong

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There goes the saying: Pay now or pay more later!

 

Pretty sure RM50 is peanut compared to other costs they spent on. Suppose MAS has 100 aircraft, it only cost them RM5000 for the software.

 

It's a subscription charge on per flight basis - and its main function is to upgrade the ACARS bandwidth. There are 10,000 planes not equipped with Swift and all of them are flying safely day in day out.

 

It's like UniFi - if you're satisfied with normal broadband why pay more for high speed internet?

 

 

I kept reminding myself during this event, 'self righteousness in retrospect is easy - also cheap'

 

My thoughts exactly.

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According to radio news (TraxxFM)/papers, the pings from the ocean floor are consistent with that of a black box. This was confirmed by experts.

 

 

"The analysis determines that a very stable distinct and clear signal was detected at 33.331 kHz and that it consistently pulsed at a 1.106 second interval," Houston said, explaining that the exact frequencies can vary according to time and conditions.

"They (experts) believe the signals to be consistent with the specification and description of a flight data recorder," he said.(Houston)

 

 

 

 

 

It was reported that since Perth, Australia is seen as the nearest point to the recovery site, any remains of the AC shall then be located in Perth for investigations to be carried out.

I wondered whether after all the investigations have been carried out, will some if not all of the remains be shipped back to Malaysia?

It may not contribute further to the investigation but at least it has "came back home"..

Edited by Cire

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Okay... tell us something that we don't already know. Next, don't tarnish the AC's code when the article is solely to talk about a government's incompetencies or what's lacking in it.

The author might as well titled his article as "Mal..government's incompetencies shown in a handling of a crisis.."

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Okay... tell us something that we don't already know. Next, don't tarnish the AC's code when the article is solely to talk about a government's incompetencies or what's lacking in it.

The author might as well titled his article as "Mal..government's incompetencies shown in a handling of a crisis.."

Don't think so - in fact, the idea of an investigating body under the UN is quite interesting. Since the ICAO is already a UN body, giving it some investigative powers for air accidents might be a good thing. The article also said that not many countries have the ability to perform these investigations and it will help overcome the incompetence of govts. Our govt. keeps saying that this disaster is unprecedented.

 

If an international body that is experienced in such investigations is in charge, there will be fewer unprecedented situations. Also it helps to overcome some sensitive issues like having national organisations like NTSB, AAIB BEA, etc. leading the investigations.

 

Let the whole world learn from MH370. It should never be allowed to happen again.

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7.30pm: CNN reports that according to Malaysian sources, the Royal Malaysia Air Force had indeed scrambled its jets to intercept Flight MH370 on the morning of its disappearance, but did not inform authorities until three days later.


Quoting a “senior Malaysian government official and another source involved in the investigation”, CNN states “Malaysian air force search aircraft were scrambled around 8am, soon after Malaysia Airlines (MAS) reported that its plane was missing early March 8.”


It reports that aircraft were scrambled before authorities could corroborate data indicating the Boeing 777 turned back westward.


If true, this contradicts claims by the Malaysian government that its military had made no attempt to intercept an aircraft flying towards the Malacca Straits on the day Flight MH370 went missing, as it does not intercept commercial flights.


CNN’s unnamed source states RMAF had “not informed the Department of Civil Aviation or search and rescue operations until three days later, March 11".


It further reports Flight MH 370 disappeared from military radar for some 120 nautical miles after it crossed back over Peninsular Malaysia.


"Based on available data, this means the plane must have dipped in altitude to between 4,000 and 5,000 feet," claims the senior government official.


Also on the final words “Good night Malaysian three-seven-zero” spoken to Subang air traffic control before Flight MH370 disappeared from radar, CNN claims these were spoken by pilot Captain Zaharie Ahmad, and not the co-pilot as initially claimed.


“The Malaysian sources told CNN there was nothing unusual about the voice and there was no indication of stress. One of the sources, an official involved in the investigation, told CNN that police played the recording to five other MAS pilots who knew the pilot and co-pilot.


“There were no third-party voices,” it's source is quoted saying.




Probably more twist than Agatha Chritie's book.

Edited by KK Lee

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Now RMAF say it did scrambled its fighter planes to intercept MH370?? and this is now being released after 33 days?? And when RMAF radar detected the supposedly turn back - it didnt say so or inform the govt only after 5 days and wasting the precious 5 days searching the waters off vietnam! And believed the govt did acknowledged and even say the RMAF did not scramble any of its jets bec it was seen as "not hostile" Seriously if indeed such conflicting news now stands then like the international media have been saying all along that Malaysia's credibity is at stake.

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