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MAS B772 9M-MRO Flight MH370 KUL-PEK Missing with All 239 POB Presumed Killed

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I am with you on this one, when the month is up, so does the operation. It will probably scaled back quite substantially and leaving this incident as an unsolved mystery.

 

There is no way Australia will spend money on searching the aircraft. Our tax money is better used elsewhere.

 

USA said they have spent 3.3mil USD for the SAR. I wonder how much Malaysia has spent.

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USA said they have spent 3.3mil USD for the SAR. I wonder how much Malaysia has spent.

 

is this the main point? then, how much afford u spent?

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USA said they have spent 3.3mil USD for the SAR. I wonder how much Malaysia has spent.

 

Just hoping other countries are not asking Malaysia to foot the bills....

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Just hoping other countries are not asking Malaysia to foot the bills....

I think it's only fair that they do. They shouldn't be paying for the country's incompetencies.

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I think it's only fair that they do. They shouldn't be paying for the country's incompetencies.

 

Its reported in the news that it will cost a staggering RM650 millions for an estimated 2 years' operations..

We know that its hard for the relatives who lost their kins in this flight, but they have to face reality now...To accept and move on. It will be painful for the next couple of years. They will grieve, and cry everyday..but to live life, they have to move on.

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Boeing and RR not obligated to help cover part of the cost of recovering the wreckage?

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Boeing and RR not obligated to help cover part of the cost of recovering the wreckage?

 

I don't think so as there is no proof (yet) to say that the crash/disappearance is a direct result from manufacturing defect or malfunction. News also reported that a chunk of the SAR, and search operations will be footed by the insurance consortiums.

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It seems highly likely that MH370 entered Indonesian airspace at some point. Has anyone seen any statement from Indonesia confirming the aircraft was or was not detected?

Maybe the Indonesian Air Force were sleeping on the job like the Malaysian Air Force and either did not detect it or did and didn't do anything about it. Hindsight is a great thing but the TUDM failed spectacularly to defend the nation against a potential significant threat and no one has taken responsibility for this. Had the Air Force done its job the outcome of this tragedy may have been different.

Why the obsession with scrambling jets to intercept? Do not expect jets to be scrambled every time there a UFO ok. Its peace time, gosh too much hollywood

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The Soviets scrambled when KAL 007 entered its airspace, although a Cessna got through and landed at RedSquare

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Why the obsession with scrambling jets to intercept? Do not expect jets to be scrambled every time there a UFO ok. Its peace time, gosh too much hollywood

 

We can never be too complacent in this time of "peace", taking episodes from Thailand's southern unrest, Lahad Datu, and the latest Semporna kidnaps.

 

Any UFOs that flies into the Malaysian airspace and uncontactable, the military have to scrambled their jets up and intercept. Otherwise, why and what for the acquisition of our airforce, and its radar installations? There are to protect our airspace. Aggressors won't announce their arrivals.

 

In this particular case, the military knows (assumed) that the blip on their radar is a commercial flight. Thus there' s no issue of it not scrambling their precious and ageing jets. Not if an episode of the 9/11 had have happened in Malaysia, then by all means a no-fly zone have to be dictated and guarded, and jets are scrambled way before the blip encroaches into the zone.

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MAS 777 safety information card apparently "found" in Australia.

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http://imgur.com/cSjjubx

 

and the full album

http://imgur.com/a/zlXQ4

Where did they find this though? Hope it is not someone's April fools joke.

 

If it is that credible, it would have made it to the news by now?

Edited by S V Choong

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That version of the MH 772 safety card has not been used for some years now...

 

what next? Somebody finding on a beach a spoon with an MH logo?

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The role of the air forces and their radar is to protect the country's air space. In this case not only did the RMAF did not send their jets up even after the plane passes by KLIA, it also seems that no radio attempts were even made to identify the plane!!?? Whether it claims it knows if its a commercial plane or not (if they really know?) still there must be some attempt to contact and verify. How would they just simply assume its a commercial plane n let it slip by as after 911 they shd know the security risks that at any time this "commercial plane" can suddenly turn towards any buildings etc. Believed if this plane or any others do for example intruded into our southern neighbor's airspace, am certain they will try to establish contact and failing that they will scramble their planes to intercept and confirm. That's the role expected of the air force and that's how a proper air force should carry out its duties as Singapore have their air force planes on standby for any interception 24/7.

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The role of the air forces and their radar is to protect the country's air space. In this case not only did the RMAF did not send their jets up even after the plane passes by KLIA, it also seems that no radio attempts were even made to identify the plane!!?? Whether it claims it knows if its a commercial plane or not (if they really know?) still there must be some attempt to contact and verify. How would they just simply assume its a commercial plane n let it slip by as after 911 they shd know the security risks that at any time this "commercial plane" can suddenly turn towards any buildings etc. Believed if this plane or any others do for example intruded into our southern neighbor's airspace, am certain they will try to establish contact and failing that they will scramble their planes to intercept and confirm. That's the role expected of the air force and that's how a proper air force should carry out its duties as Singapore have their air force planes on standby for any interception 24/7.

 

Malaysia has been peaceful for years since her independence. Therefore it is natural that they tend to focus on internal conflicts, rather than external. In other words, we shouldn't be surprised by this move.

 

However, if the military knew that MH370 has been lost, I thought they will at least attempt to establish contact with the UFO and even scramble a jet or two up there to check it out.

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yes - malaysia have been relatively peaceful so far but then complacency shouldnt set in and afterall its good practice for RMAF to supposedly follow SOP to try and establish contact with any unidentified planes intruding into its airspace. There's is no much "internal conflicts" for the RMAF to even focus on - but maintaining vigilance and control over the national airspace is very important. We should not be giving excuses for any lapses whether or not its in peacetime. Afterall theair force should and hopefullyhave practices to intercept unidentified planes - and hence in real time scenario they should have also done the same as otherwise why even practice if its not done so for real time intrusions.

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It doesn't matter peacefull time or not, airforces (or any military forces) does it for. There shouldn't be choice about discuss to "is the plane is friend or foe? let we talk about ..." . Every airspace has many restricted area such as airforce training area or special protections. A plane is turned from middle of sea and flies towards somewhere. As far as I know, no plane can fly without any flight plan within a controlled airspace. If a plane flies out of filled flightplan and ATC has no contact or control, it means Air force must be check what is going on; for escort to be help or to be prevent (intercept). In peace time is not important because if there is no rules "terrorist attacks can not be on peacefull time, they always inform before to do that!!!"

 

As I said that, can't believe airforce radar could be missed that size plane which is flying unidentified (no mode s) and comm and out of flight route. I'm sure airforce radar personel are notd10t and they should be awarn about the plane that I want to believe. They should be ask the KL center "hey, a plane is flies towards to mainland but no response no tranponders etc, do you have any idea?" at the same time KL ATC already know that they lost the contact a plane.

(two or three years ago, an OnurAir plane has been lost the contact with Austrian ACC for 30 minutes due communication system failure, two scrambles jets came out at the moment! also we have had some of the events over Turkey a few times)

 

Aren't they enough for getting takes off a plane to check it out?.....even the plane while flying towards airforce base or possible to turn Putrajaya maybe?!

 

Otherwise, there is a meaning special event such as; a hijacked the plane, threaten explode to plane if escort planes comes while continue to negotiation etc etc......just guesses.

 

I think, there is a different case which is caused the hidden some of informations, no interceptions, no radar records....

Edited by Hakan

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In contrast the blip was heading to PEN and the second bridge was just opened for a couple of days. Incentive? :p

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Just saw this statement quoted from a Reuters report:

 

"We are very thorough in our probe. Even the four tonnes of mangosteens in the aircraft cargo is being investigated ... Investigators are looking into who ordered them, paid for them and plucked and packed them from an orchard in Muar. That is how in-depth this probe is going", Inspector General of Police Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar said.

 

That sure is thorough ... please don't forget to check on the driver who delivered the fruits from the orchard to the airport, the folks who made the baskets or crates that contained the fruits and the ramp staff who drove the tractor that pulled the consignment from the airfreight centre to the aircraft.

 

KC Sim

 

 

Federal Agricultural Marketing Authority (FAMA) Johor branch director Faridul Atrash Md Mokri said according to their records, no orchards in the state had produced the shipment that allegedly made part of the cargo on board MH370.

 

"This is not even mangosteen season. The fruits are just in budding stages and they can only be harvested around June," Faridul Atrash was quoted as saying. He added that the fruit is not in season anywhere in the state, let alone Muar.

 

Traders interviewed by the daily (Berita Harian) also concurred that it is not mangosteen season now and the last harvest was in December - four months ago.

 

Similar news was also reported by Sin Chew daily.

http://news.sinchew.com.my/node/358081?tid=1

 

Who is telling the truth?

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