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MAS B772 9M-MRO Flight MH370 KUL-PEK Missing with All 239 POB Presumed Killed

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so the plane actually could have crashed in straits of Malacca?? How did nobody realise that? I feel something is beieng kept from us. How far did the plane turn back on the air force radar?

 

What justifies searching this area? so many questions

 

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I think the searches are done to eliminate those locations rather than confirming them.

 

Plus, Malacca Straits is our water, so we can explore as extensive as we want.

 

I did a scary thing and went to GCMaps, and typed in 6000nm@KUL, just to see how far can MRO go.

 

God help the souls in MH370.

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The PC is not doing any good.......Reporters came armed with questions to be answered...but they left with even more questions....Apalah oi!!

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So now the latest from DCA chief - false passport imposters do not have asian features

Geesh, talk about back pedalling

to be fair I never heard Zaid Hamidi say that the 2 impostors have Asian features based on the CCTV recordings.. all he said was that how could the immigration officers missed the 2 impostors if they had European passport but have Asian features..then again I could be wrong..anybody else hear him confirmed that the 2 pax had Asian features?

 

i think some news channels might have taken his words too literally

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I think the searches are done to eliminate those locations rather than confirming them.

 

Plus, Malacca Straits is our water, so we can explore as extensive as we want.

 

I did a scary thing and went to GCMaps, and typed in 6000nm@KUL, just to see how far can MRO go.

 

God help the souls in MH370.

 

 

I don't think it was fuelled for that long distance.

The PC is not doing any good.......Reporters came armed with questions to be answered...but they left with even more questions....Apalah oi!!

Why can't they just release information through websites, twitter and have a press conference once/twice a day? Seems like they're wasting an awful lot of everyone's time.

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Seem likes the acting transportation minister is defending the rights not to check the passport, citing sheer numbers of missing passport.

 

'Bagaimana nak semak, 40 juta pasport hilang'

 

http://www.kinitv.com/video/4627O74

 

There is no mandatory cross checking of passport at airports worldwide? Somehow I do think that this is an unfortunate lapse of security.

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Seem likes the acting transportation minister is defending the rights not to check the passport, citing sheer numbers of missing passport.

 

'Bagaimana nak semak, 40 juta pasport hilang'

 

http://www.kinitv.com/video/4627O74

 

There is no mandatory cross checking of passport at airports worldwide? Somehow I do think that this is an unfortunate lapse of security.

 

Do you realise everything is computerised? It's not mandatory especially in this part of the world.

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Re. the possibility of the aircraft trying to turn back, it could have well been radar return of a large chunk of the aircraft falling and tumbling after an inflight break up...

Baffles me why the military aren't releasing some sort of playback, do they need to 'filter' something first?

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Seem likes the acting transportation minister is defending the rights not to check the passport, citing sheer numbers of missing passport.

 

'Bagaimana nak semak, 40 juta pasport hilang'

 

http://www.kinitv.com/video/4627O74

 

There is no mandatory cross checking of passport at airports worldwide? Somehow I do think that this is an unfortunate lapse of security.

I think we should reserve the judgment on whether it's a security lapse or not until we know for sure whether these 2 people went through Malaysian immigration or not..if they're transit passengers then it's a different story

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Why can't they just release information through websites, twitter and have a press conference once/twice a day? Seems like they're wasting an awful lot of everyone's time.

If it was done this way then MH, DCA et. al. will be bashed to no avail for not being "forthcoming" with information.

 

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

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If it was done this way then MH, DCA et. al. will be bashed to no avail for not being "forthcoming" with information.

 

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

 

Agreed!

couldn't agree more with Suhaimi...

 

Buat salah

Tak buat pun salah......

 

 

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to be fair I never heard Zaid Hamidi say that the 2 impostors have Asian features based on the CCTV recordings.. all he said was that how could the immigration officers missed the 2 impostors if they had European passport but have Asian features..then again I could be wrong..anybody else hear him confirmed that the 2 pax had Asian features?

 

i think some news channels might have taken his words too literally

To be fair I have not had honour of hearing what HM said with my own ears either

So what that is in the media here is all that is available to me

And if some quote is attributable to our national news agency, Bernama, I assume it's credible

Furthermore, since said HM has not deemed it necessary to distance himself from what was (at very least) implied in that quote, I assume too it's fair to say he doesn't disagree to what was implied

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If it was done this way then MH, DCA et. al. will be bashed to no avail for not being "forthcoming" with information.

 

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

 

At first, I followed the PCs closely. Then, after 2-3 PC, the minister and DCA didn't seem to have any new information and giving the same answers. DCA director became defensive and Hishammudin being sarcastic (check Waiping link), it became really painful to watch. Laughing at the footballer comment seems very insensitive. Many comments on twitter saying that MH and DCA need some PR training.

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I changed to come back on 714 after i noticed that MH851 pulling up to the stand next to me was a 738 9M-MXF.

 

I still believe in MH and their 777's! The crew i flew with today is still in shock, but i can tell you, you'd never noticed a lapse in service.

 

Somebody called me foolish. I'm just showing support the only way i know how - to give my dying home airline a fare. :)

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Missing Malaysian Airlines plane: On board a Singapore Air Force search-and-rescue aircraft

10 March 2014 Monday | 8:52 PM

 

Straits Times photojournalist Desmond Lim travelled with an RSAF C-130 participating in the search for the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370. He found out how difficult a search-and-rescue operation over the open seas is.

 

Straits Times photojournalist Desmond Lim travelled with an RSAF C-130 aircraft helping in the search for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, which went missing over the South China Sea on March 8. He discovered that a search-and-rescue operation over the open seas is a challenging mission which requires intense concentration but which doesn't alway yield results. Here is a first-person account of his journey.

 

“How difficult could it be to spot something in the sea?” I asked myself as I sat on the red nylon webbed seat in a Republic of Singapore Air Force’s (RSAF) C-130, buckling up as the plane prepared to take off from Paya Lebar Air Base.

I was there at the break of dawn on March 9 with 18 crew members from the RSAF 122 Squadron, who were setting out for a 10-hour mission to locate the missing Boeing 777 from Malaysia Airlines (MAS), which went missing in the South China Sea on March 8 while flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

The C-130 was one of two such military transport planes that were dispatched to help in the search for Flight MH370 on March 9, together with a naval helicopter, two warships and a submarine support and rescue vessel .

The mood was solemn, with hardly any words exchanged between the servicemen as they swiftly loaded equipment like smoke markers, inflatable rafts and prepared the 30m-long transportation plane for take-off.

Everyone was handed ear plugs and life jackets to be worn during the flight. “Put this on after take-off!” an aircrew member barked over the loud humming from the plane’s propellers.

I had come on board thinking that with a bird’s eye view of a suspected crash site, one would definitely be able to spot a floating debris that would somehow shed some light on the fate of MH370.

But I would later find out that the task is harder than it seems.

Although the search was concentrated that day in an area about 140 nautical miles north-east of Kota Bahru, Kelantan, in the South China Sea, the crew members in the cockpit went to work right from the start, keeping a lookout in the two hours or so it took for us to reach the South China Sea. The rest of the crew and I were seated with our backs facing the windows.

As we approached the search area, people sprang into action, removing the seat webbings blocking the small windows and taking up positions to get the clearest views. Some stood on seats to peer out of the windows on the higher parts of the plane.

The two emergency doors at the back of the C-130 were lifted up, allowing the crew who were hooked up with safety harnesses to stand perched right at the edge and have a clearer view right under the aircraft.

The majority of those on board strained their necks, their faces pressed against the basketball-sized windows of the aircraft, scanning the seas and horizon for any sign of debris. The two pilots in front were also on the lookout and the crew communicated using headsets, alerting one another to anything that caught their attention.

About 10 inflatable rafts were strapped near the rear exits, unpacked and ready to be thrown down should any survivors be spotted. If that happened, rescue teams on the waters would be alerted to pick up the survivors.

The vastness of the seas was overwhelming. The area of operation was enormous - many times the size of Singapore and the Malaysian Peninsular combined.

I was confident that with so many aircraft and ships from so many countries involved in the search, it would not be long before the ill-fated MH370 was found.

But it was not to be. My 10-hour journey with the RSAF showed me just how difficult an open-sea search-and-rescue operation really is.

We saw some vessels in the seas, but at about 500 feet (150m) up in the air, we were circling too high up to be able to tell whether they were search-and-rescue boats, or just traditional Vietnamese fishing boats. They often appeared no bigger than a speck in the sea of blue. Even the lone tankers cutting through the waters on the horizon were hard to spot.

The loud droning and constant vibrations from the jet engines began to take its toll on the servicemen, hours into the operation, as they took shifts to scan the waters. Some took a quick shut-eye, and other stepped in to fill the gap.

Many were visibly tired after a few hours of intense concentration. A servicemen was asked by his partner to take a break, but he waved him off, signing to him with his hands saying: "Later. Ten more minutes."

Some were seen clutching white vomit bags, apparently nauseous from the constant staring at moving objects and the circling of the plane.

The crew took turns to have lunch - cup noodles and biscuits. No one seemed to mind the simple meal as they wolfed it down and quickly headed back to their posts, seemingly aware of the urgency and importance of the responsibility on their shoulders.

After taking some pictures of the operations and the scene through the windows as I was not allowed near the open doors, I chipped in to help.

I found a window on the right side near the front of the plane and started to scan the seas. It required tremendous concentration and was extremely tiring. I felt exhausted and struggled to keep awake just after 30 minutes.

Smoke markers were thrown into the seas, at some points, to mark out suspected debris. The plane would then swing back to investigate the marked areas, but each time, it yielded no results.

About five hours after leaving the air base, we spotted large patches of oil, brown stains marbling through the pristine blue waters.

The aircrew also spotted and took photos of some unidentified pieces of debris bobbling in the waters, one of which resembled an orange life jacket.

There was momentary excitement on the plane about the discovery, but the Malaysian authorities would later in the evening clarify that the debris was not from MH370.

About eight hours after we took off, the plane turned back for Singapore and landed just in time for us to see the sun setting at the Paya Lebar Air Base at about 6pm.

I was eager to head back to the office, file my photographs and meet my family for our weekly get together meals. But my heart was heavy knowing that the loved ones of the missing 239 passengers and crew on MH370 would not be seeing them for dinner that night.

deslim@sph.com.sg

http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/se-asia/story/missing-malaysian-airlines-plane-MH370-on-board-singapore-search-and-rescue-aircraft

 

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Edited by xtemujin

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Somebody called me foolish. I'm just showing support the only way i know how - to give my dying home airline a fare. :)

Not at all! That's also the sole reason many of us are here for, with the hope that the phoenix will rise and fly high again, one fine day. You go...! :)

Edited by Mohd Azizul Ramli

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Somebody called me foolish. I'm just showing support the only way i know how - to give my dying home airline a fare. :)

I'm looking forward to bringing my family to KIX on MH next month.

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Agreed!

couldn't agree more with Suhaimi...

 

Buat salah

Tak buat pun salah......

 

 

 

Agreed here also!

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From the fishermen claim that they saw plane flying low at the time of MH370 disappearance, I have a feeling that this is the case of Unlawful Interference. Why it cannot be detected by radar? Could be the person who hijack knows about flying and the instruments onboard. He could probably switched the transponder off to avoid detection from civilian radar and flying low to avoid detection from military radar. Maybe the authorities could plot the radius the aircraft can fly with the remaining fuel onboard. Checkout with airports within the radius. Maybe it landed at other airports.

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It is quite clear now that the 2 travelers on forged docs are NOT terrorists!

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com

Travel agent Benjaporn Krutnait, booked the tickets through a business contact whom she only knew as "Mr Ali". She said that his first request to book cheap tickets to Europe for the two men was made on March 1.

 

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Terrorists will select their routes and not the cheapest airline, and tickets would have been booked months ahead!

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