Sandeep G 1 Report post Posted October 2, 2015 Well u could expect the A359 to takeover this route.. Especially given the pullout of MH from FRA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) Well u could expect the A359 to takeover this route.. Especially given the pullout of MH from FRA. KUL will be among the first few A350 destinations for LH, rolling in last quarter of 2016. Edited October 2, 2015 by JuliusWong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted October 2, 2015 Well u could expect the A359 to takeover this route.. Especially given the pullout of MH from FRA. Yes, but these are not available now... I think that if it wasn't for the A359s, LH might not have tried to maintain the service until their introduction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) No market for KUL-FRA? There are no connections beyond KUL for LH and KUL is not a huge O&D destination for LH. And also, BA/ME3 has very *reasonable* DE-MY premium cabin fares from time to time (especially during BA's weekly Thursday specials - suspended until further notice though). KUL will be among the first few A350 destinations for LH, rolling in last quarter of 2016. That's what I hear, but if I am not mistaken, the first few A350s are going to be MUC based. Edited October 2, 2015 by Craig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leon t 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2015 surprise that LH cannot even sustain daily KUL-FRA when MH is going to terminate the service - is that so poort loads on this sector? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted October 3, 2015 surprise that LH cannot even sustain daily KUL-FRA when MH is going to terminate the service - is that so poort loads on this sector? When MH was doing KUL-FRA, the load factor was pretty good even with LH competition. Yield, that is better answered by someone else. All I am saying is, the load is there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted October 3, 2015 Unless one need to visit a number of european destinations, ek and qr offer cheaper price and better service. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Tan 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2015 Unless one need to visit a number of european destinations, ek and qr offer cheaper price and better service.Some people, especially business travelers, don't like to split their journey into two neither-long-nor-short sectors. They would much rather have one long flight that they can get some decent sleep on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike P 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2015 Unless one need to visit a number of european destinations, ek and qr offer cheaper price and better service. I bet to differ, LH was doing some good promotion to Europe at 2.8k vv, comparing to EK or QR offering at higher price. I was told by my friend who took EK flight from now and then where the cabin was filled with unbearable smell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted October 4, 2015 I bet to differ, LH was doing some good promotion to Europe at 2.8k vv, comparing to EK or QR offering at higher price. I was told by my friend who took EK flight from now and then where the cabin was filled with unbearable smell. Some people, especially business travelers, don't like to split their journey into two neither-long-nor-short sectors. They would much rather have one long flight that they can get some decent sleep on. LH, EK and QR ex-KUL frequency/capacity speak for itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Tan 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2015 LH, EK and QR ex-KUL frequency/capacity speak for itself. The difference is, EK and QR have never had to worry about making money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D Singh 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2015 The Gulf Carriers really arent so great if you are an economy flyer, heck EK business even isnt so nice. They get this halo effect from their flashy first class products that they have on very select planes which make people oh and ah. But in Y they are nothing special. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jani 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2015 Truly beg to differ. Haven't been on QR or EY recently but EK's hard product is miles ahead of any economy product. Just a class above. Not even SQ can match. Are you suggesting that European carriers are comparable? Please... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izanee 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2015 EK economy is ok. The IFE and food are really good but seats are rubbish. MH Y seats on the 772 are the best ... Sad to see them go Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mulyadir Fitri 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2015 For the price they are charging EK is really good. I got RM2.2k to CDG. But trumped by VN at RM1.8k. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jani 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2015 EK economy is ok. The IFE and food are really good but seats are rubbish. MH Y seats on the 772 are the best ... Sad to see them go Seats on 77W? Perhaps (though I don't agree). A380.. Who is better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) LH once again updated its schedule for S2016. LH 782/783 will now be 5 weekly instead of the planned 7 weekly. Flight schedules: LH782 2200FRA - KUL1620+1 x37 343 LH783 2250KUL - FRA0545+1 x14 343 Edited October 14, 2015 by Craig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Carter Hah 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2015 Apparently LH terminating flights to KUL eff March 1st. Tried booking my flight today and all were via SIN. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandeep G 1 Report post Posted December 16, 2015 Casualty of the new JV between SIA and LH groups.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) Oh no, shouldn't be that quick.....LH have the FRA-KUL monopoly now since MH has withdrew from the market. And one of the first few markets to receive A350. Checking with my insider now. UPDATE: Yes, LH is cancelling FRA-KUL effective 1st March 2016. Official announcement on 21st Dec 2015. LH office in KUL will remain open for now and sell tickets through BKK and SIN. Cancelled due to commercial reason. The sudden drop in RM value coupled by LH-SQ extensive JV are last two nails in the coffin. Edited December 16, 2015 by JuliusWong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waiping 12 Report post Posted December 16, 2015 Dang! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alif A. F. 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2015 Malaysia's only direct link to Central Europe is now cutoff. Hoping with A350s coming online in next few years, MH can restart FRA (and the likes of AMS and CDG) again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kandiah k 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2015 Sad news indeed for KUL. Hopefully KL can increase their frequencies? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) Is/was load/yield on KUL-FRA really that seriously pathetic for MH and LH to call it a day on the route so soon after each other ? Or could it be BA's return to KUL that has tipped the balance towards non-viable state ? Edited December 16, 2015 by BC Tam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Azizul Ramli 2 Report post Posted December 16, 2015 First AF and now LH. Hoping for the opposite with KL and BA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites