MASwings Twin Otter Crashed in Kudat

[Mohd Azizul Ramli 2]

Poor guy, he just purchased a new car. https://www.facebook.com/marcjoel.bansh

 

[Edwin Yii 0]

Co-pilot just passed away.

Total deaths: 2

 

RPIP

Edited October 10, 2013 by Edwin Yii

[Kenneth Chong WT 0]

So young...so sad...take care people...don't forget to say a prayer for those involved...amen...

[Michael Chai 0]

Rest In Peace Co-pilot. Aviators, be safe when flying.

[iwan 3]

One of the rare owner of our toyota 86. Sad to see such a young life cut short. Condolences to his family.

 

Is it confirmed hes the co pilot?

Edited October 10, 2013 by iwan

[Newitt 0]

Kudat METAR around time of crash

 

WBKT 100700Z 27017G31KT 210V300 9999 SCT014 BKN280 30/24 Q1008

WBKT 100600Z 27015G25KT 230V320 9999 FEW015 BKN280 31/24 Q1008

 

If the a/c was taking off/landing runway 22, then the crosswind component gusts to about 23 knots from the right, but it crashed on the north side, which is confusing, unless something went wrong with the propeller pitch mechanism on starboard engine?

 

Wonder what's the maximum demonstrated crosswind component for the Twin Otter?

Edited October 10, 2013 by Newitt

[Sandeep G 1]

RIP.

 

Very sad event.

[Pieter C. 5]

RIP and prayers to both the victims !

 

Shocking to see this, having flown this stretch and flight-number a few times in the past...including MDM

[Teoh Z Yao 0]

Gosh. May the two of them rest in peace. My deepest condolence to the families.

 

Fly safe.

[Cire 0]

Things just happens no matter how careful one is..

 

Condolences to the family of the deceased..

[michgyver 0]

Another one still in critical.Hope and pray she can pull through.

[Najib Ramli 0]

The ageing fleet need urgent replacement but the government only made an announcement to renew the fleet by early 2013. On average, MASwings current DHC6 is approximately 30 years old. What took the government so long to decide on this replacement? Has the government fail to prioritize or sideline the need of the rural folks?

 

my only question is...how many of the MAS/Maswings Twin Otters crash so far has been attributed by issues related to the aircraft's age (mechanical issues etc) vs adverse flying condition/pilot error?

Edited October 11, 2013 by Najib Ramli

[Mike P 0]

my only question is...how many of the MAS/Maswings Twin Otters crash so far has been attributed by issues related to the aircraft's age (mechanical issues etc) vs adverse flying condition/pilot error?

 

I think only one crash in the past history, in Tawau back in 80s. The crash was due to poor weather. The record still quite good. After all, MH does not have any major crash (TOUCHWOOD!) like what SQ used to back in year 2000 in TPE to LAX route.

[Mohd Idham 0]

Kudat METAR around time of crash

 

WBKT 100700Z 27017G31KT 210V300 9999 SCT014 BKN280 30/24 Q1008

 

WBKT 100600Z 27015G25KT 230V320 9999 FEW015 BKN280 31/24 Q1008

 

If the a/c was taking off/landing runway 22, then the crosswind component gusts to about 23 knots from the right, but it crashed on the north side, which is confusing, unless something went wrong with the propeller pitch mechanism on starboard engine?

 

Wonder what's the maximum demonstrated crosswind component for the Twin Otter?

 

Wind varies from 210 to 300 at 0700 zulu. Plausible.

[Teo 0]

lots of news in the newspaper

 

but the saddest news is this reported by Daily Express:Unexplained delay in airlifting victim to QEH2

The helicopter ferrying co-pilot Marc Joel Bansh arrived at Sabah Air base in KK only at 8pm - at least 5hr after tragedy happened in Kudat at 2.50pm.According to Sabah Air, distress call was received at 4.30pm - 2hr after incident - and that at 4.45pm two Sabah Air helicopters were dispatched to the scene. The reason for the delay in contacting Sabah Air was not immediately known.

The paper also understands that an earlier helicopter came back empty-handed at 7pm because the victims were apparently ''bleeding and confused''. Some of Marc family members were already anxiously waiting at the site. There were reports that MHS services from Miri were also summoned but this could not be verified.

 

According to witnesses, the first to arrive at the crash site were the police, followed by Fire Dept & more than 1hr later the ambulance. Whether it was due to waiting for the Kota Belud ambulance to arrive was not known.

 

another report by Daily Express:Plane's tip apparently hit a tree

Strong winds forced the pilot to abort his 1st attempt at landing. When the pilot returned for 2nd attempt, the tip of the plane apparently hit a tree, probably because of a gust of wind, and swerved out of control before smashing into the garage of a house.

 

report by Harian Metro:'Bencana kepala angin' err is kepala angin? headwinds?

translated:When trying for 2nd attempt, the plane still did not manage to touch near the runway/merapati landasan due to strong wings,before trying to go airborne again. However, at that time the front tyre of the plane smashed to the house roof which is situated 200m from the airfield and crashes.

 

and according to all news report the plane engine was still spinning for 1hr after the crash

according to news report MASWings previously had 4 Twinotters but was reduced to 3 following the Marudi airport incident in November 2012 after 1 of the planes veered off the runway upon landing. MAsWings will deploy new Twinotters in stages from the middle of this yr until 2014. It took 1st delivery of Twinotter DHC6-400 on Aug6, but had to undergo pre-service modification until Sept14

[Arthur W. 0]

Public should know that you cannot airlift/ambulance transfer very unstable patients. They need to be resuscitated & stabilized on the ground first - which is Kudat Hospital before any movement. Transportation procedures like loading onto ambulance/chopper, setting up medical equipment takes precious amount of time. And during movement in a vehicle, it's close to impossible to resuscitate. Medical staff too get motion sickness you know. So patient must be stabilized first, if cannot stabilize, then most likely wont even be able to survive the transfer to KK. (Hence, the news that the other chopper returned empty-handed).

 

Everyone only focusing on the word 'airlift'... *shakes head*

 

And with lung injuries that he had, bringing him up to higher altitude will alter internal chest pressure, putting his lungs at risk of over-inflation and rupture (like a balloon).

 

And with all disasters, medical personnel should NOT be first on scene. First should be fire brigade / security forces (as correctly reported). Once they clear the area safe (from leaking fuel, fire risk, explosion), then only the paramedics can come into picture.

 

Saying that medical personnel "were late" is very misleading.

Edited October 11, 2013 by Arthur W.

[Ivan_Endi 0]

Public should know that you cannot airlift/ambulance transfer very unstable patients. They need to be resuscitated & stabilized on the ground first - which is Kudat Hospital before any movement. Transportation procedures like loading onto ambulance/chopper, setting up medical equipment takes precious amount of time. And during movement in a vehicle, it's close to impossible to resuscitate. Medical staff too get motion sickness you know. So patient must be stabilized first, if cannot stabilize, then most likely wont even be able to survive the transfer to KK. (Hence, the news that the other chopper returned empty-handed).

 

Everyone only focusing on the word 'airlift'... *shakes head*

 

And with lung injuries that he had, bringing him up to higher altitude will alter internal chest pressure, putting his lungs at risk of over-inflation and rupture (like a balloon).

 

And with all disasters, medical personnel should NOT be first on scene. First should be fire brigade / security forces (as correctly reported). Once they clear the area safe (from leaking fuel, fire risk, explosion), then only the paramedics can come into picture.

 

Saying that medical personnel "were late" is very misleading.

Well said..

[V Wong 0]

When the distance/time to reach a tertiary medical centre is considerable, the old 'scoop and run' concept is replaced by 'stay and play' emergency treatment. In the event of medevac such as in this case, it even more crucial that the patient is stabilzed as much as possible prior to transfer, although there is a limitation to the amount of intensive care and blood bank support available in the district hospital.

[Mohd Firdaus Bolong 0]

Glad I have fellow health care personnel here in MW. This almost always happens during a disaster/loss of lives. All finger pointings usually directed to us.

[Cire 0]

I think everyone should know and remember that "scoop and run" is not right and it could further endanger the lives of the injured.

[Mulyadir Fitri 0]

A lot of comments on Marc's Instagram account. He lived a good life with lots of friends. At least he went away while doing what he loved the most. RIP Marc Joel Bansh.

[Waiping 12]

Just to check is this the same aircraft that crash landed at Marudi before?

[Mohd Suhaimi Fariz 2]

Just to check is this the same aircraft that crash landed at Marudi before?

The Marudi incident was on 9M-MDO. That was written off

[Pieter C. 5]

Poor guy, he just purchased a new car. https://www.facebook.com/marcjoel.bansh

 

 

Hope it wasn't caused by a similar storm, he took a picture of on his FB; looks real mean (with wind changes possible)

[Kenneth Chong WT 0]

His father is a pilot for sabah air...doing flying doctor services...the medical gazette published a memoriam for him...http://www.mmgazette.com/in-memory-of-mark-joel-bansh/