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Air Force One with Barack Obama Visit 20-22 November 2015

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BRISBANE, Australia - President Barack Obama headed home Sunday after a weeklong tour through Asia and Australia. Air Force One departed from a military base on Australia's east coast, bound not for Washington, but for a refueling stop in Hawaii, 4,731 miles en route. The White House says Air Force One, a modified Boeing 747, has unlimited range because it can be refueled in midair. But the president often makes fuel stops when traveling abroad. Commercial 747s can fly non-stop for about 7,000 miles. Journalists and members of the president's staff also fly back to Washington on Sunday, but no such layover is required. The Boeing 777 charter, with a lighter-than-usual load and more than 200 empty seats, is scheduled to fly 16 hours, 21 minutes non-stop from Brisbane to Joint Base Andrews in Maryland. Total mileage: 9,486.

 

More at: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/for-reporters-covering-obama-in-asia-a-long-haul-home-awaits/?bt_alias=eyJ1c2VySWQiOiJhMjNiODJmNC1kZGE2LTM3YzUtMzMyMS1mOWFjYzQ0ZTQ3MDEifQ%3D%3D

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I don't think Airforce 1 will do mid air refuelling with the President onboard during peacetime. It is less risky to do a refuelling stop.


The US Airforce is looking at a replacement presidential jet to replace the current B747-200 based aircraft. Maybe it is time to think about using a big twin like the B777-8X!

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BRISBANE, Australia - President Barack Obama headed home Sunday after a weeklong tour through Asia and Australia. Air Force One departed from a military base on Australia's east coast, bound not for Washington, but for a refueling stop in Hawaii, 4,731 miles en route. The White House says Air Force One, a modified Boeing 747, has unlimited range because it can be refueled in midair. But the president often makes fuel stops when traveling abroad. Commercial 747s can fly non-stop for about 7,000 miles. Journalists and members of the president's staff also fly back to Washington on Sunday, but no such layover is required. The Boeing 777 charter, with a lighter-than-usual load and more than 200 empty seats, is scheduled to fly 16 hours, 21 minutes non-stop from Brisbane to Joint Base Andrews in Maryland. Total mileage: 9,486.

 

More at: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/for-reporters-covering-obama-in-asia-a-long-haul-home-awaits/?bt_alias=eyJ1c2VySWQiOiJhMjNiODJmNC1kZGE2LTM3YzUtMzMyMS1mOWFjYzQ0ZTQ3MDEifQ%3D%3D

 

 

The potus could be visiting his troops in the middle east or having a short break in hawaii.

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The US Airforce is looking at a replacement presidential jet to replace the current B747-200 based aircraft. Maybe it is time to think about using a big twin like the B777-8X!

 

That would allow them to travel really far. Less refuelling stops.

 

777 vs 747, 2 engines vs 4 engines, could safety be a concern??

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believed for Air Force 1, they will chose a 4 engine plane over a twin anytime as it does meant greater security and ability to fly than a twin engine should there be an engine failure - as the 747 can still fly safely with 3 engines than a 777 with one engine which has a max ETOP range. It doesn't really mean that the more engines a plane have, then the greater probability of it failing. It does not work this way as then if we have 2 777 each with two engines, then does it mean the 2nd 777 have a greater chance of engine failing?


the USAF should order 2 B748s for use as Air Force 1 before Boeing shut down the 748 line.

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USAF also favour the use of proven designs rather than the latest ones. So don't be surprised if they opt for a B744 with GenX engines.

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That would be an interesting sight.

Nothing compared to prospect (however remote) of a couple of A380s being painted up in colours of POTUS' official ride :D

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Aiyoh, 4 is too many but 2 is too little. Bring back the trijets! :p

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Maybe POTUS would like to stretch his legs and breath in some fresh air.

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Although it is not a Lockheed Tristar, but close.....

 

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Looks good to me. Now you save on the fuel of an engine, and have an added security of one engine.

With those nacelles, there will be a new era of silent DC-10s.

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Can but with severe performance penalties.

 

What does that mean? Must land immediately?

Ok, which 4 engine plane can fly on 2 engines? A340?

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What does that mean? Must land immediately?

Ok, which 4 engine plane can fly on 2 engines? A340?

 

Not too efficient I guess. You gotta ramp up the engines at full thrust to keep the aircraft up in the air. Not to mention that the other two engines will add as huge speed brakes while not operating.

It's gonna be though keeping those 4-engined birds up in the air only with 2 running.

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