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Malaysia Airlines to Start Kota Kinabalu – Shanghai Pu Dong Service from Dec 2012

by JL

Update at 0840GMT 16NOV12

Malaysia Airlines from 11DEC12 is launching Kota Kinabalu – Shanghai Pu Dong service, offering twice weekly operation on board Boeing 737-800 aircraft.

Reservation is now open. Schedule:

 

MH394 BKI2140 – 0205+1PVG 738 25

MH395 PVG0305 – 0745BKI 738 36

http://airlineroute.net/2012/11/16/mh-bkipvg-dec12/

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Malaysia Airlines to Start Kota Kinabalu – Shanghai Pu Dong Service from Dec 2012

by JL

Update at 0840GMT 16NOV12

Malaysia Airlines from 11DEC12 is launching Kota Kinabalu – Shanghai Pu Dong service, offering twice weekly operation on board Boeing 737-800 aircraft.

Reservation is now open. Schedule:

 

MH394 BKI2140 – 0205+1PVG 738 25

MH395 PVG0305 – 0745BKI 738 36

http://airlineroute.net/2012/11/16/mh-bkipvg-dec12/

This was posted in the missing thread. Is there a way to retrieve that thread mod(s) ?

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So the puzzle is finally completed.

 

1X to PER

2X to KIX

2X to PVG

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Why can people do at PVG at 2am!?

MAS booking engine shows that the plane will land at PVG around 12am..., not 2.05am as reported by airlineroute.

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This was posted in the missing thread. Is there a way to retrieve that thread mod(s) ?

 

I did search but couldn't find it. It's not the first time a thread went missing.

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Still... at 12am!

They are trying to pull what the Korean carriers have been doing for many years. Flights from ICN all land at BKI just before midnight or right after midnight. Flights are constantly going out full (for OZ at least and probably KE too since you can't never get a cheap ticket from KE).

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They are trying to pull what the Korean carriers have been doing for many years. Flights from ICN all land at BKI just before midnight or right after midnight. Flights are constantly going out full (for OZ at least and probably KE too since you can't never get a cheap ticket from KE).

 

Not sure if cheap fare is possible on KE at all considering they are still pretty much depending on travel agents to sell for them. KA also don't offer cheap fare although there has been some interesting fare from parent company CX via KUL.

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If I remember correctly, the last attempt by MH on BKI-PVG vv did offer some reasonable hours

Fact is that offering did not work well enough, else it would not have been dropped not too long after

So, why not explore the other extreme ? :D

 

By looks of it, the PVG-BKI leg looks good for outbound tours from Shanghai

Get those adrenaline charged lambs for the slaughter tour guests into BKI early morning and start the itinerary straight off (cost of a night's accomodation waived :))

However, outbound tours from KK will be a challenge I reckon - you have those lambs guests in at some unGodly hour of the day, need to accomodate them for those few hours before kicking off the tour itinerary, and at the conclusion need to have them pacified till 3 in the morning :lol:

 

This only from those inclusive tours perspective- which is highly seasonal anyway, I'm certain there are other categories of travellers who can make this sustainable :)

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Could have made it a bit more civilised by arriving into PVG a bit earlier... say 8-9pm. Then depart at 11pm or 2am...

 

Have tried taking the 2 or 3am Emirates flight to KUL from MEL... definitely not family friendly!

 

They are trying to pull what the Korean carriers have been doing for many years. Flights from ICN all land at BKI just before midnight or right after midnight. Flights are constantly going out full (for OZ at least and probably KE too since you can't never get a cheap ticket from KE).

 

May be that's where they got their inspiration from... ALL East Asians must be fans of travelling at Ungodly hours (or "Godly" if you are being sarcastic). :)

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Why can people do at PVG at 2am!?

 

I did mention about QR flight arriving KUL from HKT at 2.40 in the morning, and the same flight departs for DOH at 3.40.

Same rule applies here....sleep at the airport!

 

:)

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I did mention about QR flight arriving KUL from HKT at 2.40 in the morning, and the same flight departs for DOH at 3.40.

Same rule applies here....sleep at the airport!

 

:)

 

Hmm, the 'bump and grind' of the chairs of some airports may not be suitable for a sleep! :)

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KA also don't offer cheap fare although there has been some interesting fare from parent company CX via KUL.

Yes. It is impossible to get a cheap ticket on KE at all if you are just going to buy the air ticket be it directly from KE or travel agency. KE's return air fare between BKI/ICN never went below RM2,300 :o Same goes to OZ since last year.

 

 

KA also don't offer cheap fare although there has been some interesting fare from parent company CX via KUL.

Eh ? KA does offer cheap fares. The last sale ended just last month. I think there could be another sale early next month.

 

KA/CX are probably the cheapest to ICN from BKI. When they are having a sale, you can get a return ticket for less than RM1,700 all-in. Their promotion to USA from BKI is probably the best one. A return ticket to JFK for less than RM3,500 all-in. However, their promotion to Europe is hardly attractive. Tickets are going for RM4,000+ even during promotion.

 

 

Could have made it a bit more civilised by arriving into PVG a bit earlier... say 8-9pm. Then depart at 11pm or 2am...

But then, if it departs from PVG at 11pm, the flight will land at BKI around 3.20am.

 

Anyway, i believe MAS is trying the maximize the use of their aircraft and they probably think that some Chinese carriers manage to do just fine with such horrible flight hours such as one of the MU's flights between KUL/PVG. So they want to give it a try too :D

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Cabinet approves Malaysia Open Skies

 

 

November 20, 2012

 

kongchoha.jpgKUALA LUMPUR, Nov 20 — The Cabinet today approved the Malaysia Open Skies, which will see 37 routes connecting Kota Kinabalu with Asean countries and China.

Announcing the decision, Transport Minister Datuk Seri Kong Cho Ha (picture) said the arrangement would see Malaysia signing and ratifying Protocol 2 Implementation of Limited Fifth Freedom under Asean-China Air Transport Agreement (AC-ATA).

This ratification would enable Kota Kinabalu International Airport (KKIA) to connect nine secondary points within Asean and 28 secondary points in China for cargo and passenger services, he said in a statement.

“The signing of AC-ATA will be formalised by end of this month in Bali in conjunction with the Asean Transport Ministers’ Meeting,” he said.

Kong said the AC-ATA framework would enhance air travel connectivity in Malaysia, especially with the Kota Kinabalu International Airport (KKIA), to be a major hub connecting Asean and China.

He said this strategic decision would give an economic, trade and tourism boost to Sabah.

The AC-ATA consists of intra-packages and extra packages, he said.

Through intra-package deals, the airlines in Asean and China are authorised to exercise fifth traffic rights for passengers and cargo services, with unlimited flight frequencies, carrier capacity and types of aircraft.

These are for routes connecting 10 secondary points in Asean, which include KKIA, and 28 secondary points in China, he said.

Apart from KKIA, the other nine secondary points in Asean are Bandar Seri Begawan (Brunei), Preah Sihanouk (Cambodia), Mataram (Indonesia), Luang Prabang (Laos), a destination except Yangon (Myanmar), a destination except Manila (the Philippines), Chiang Mai (Thailand), a destination except Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh (Vietnam) and Singapore.

While China has named 28 secondary points comprising Changchun, Chongqing, Xi’an, Xiamen, Urumqi, Chengdu, Shenyang, Fuzhou, Kashgar, Kunming, Dalian, Guiyang, Hohhot, Xishuangbanna, Haikou, Lanzhou, harbin, Nanning, Sanya, Xining, Wuhan, Changsha, Yinchuan, Ningbo, Guilin, Zhengzhou, Lhasa and Yanji.

Kong said through extra-package deals, the airlines in Asean and China are authorised to exercise fifth traffic rights for passenger and cargo services limited to 14 times a week using any type of aircraft for routes connecting 10 secondary points in Asean and 10 secondary points in China to any points outside Asean and China. — Bernama

 

Opening up doors for BKI I guess :good:

OT, but why do they always choose that smirking/constipated picture of the poor man :D

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37 routes connecting Kota Kinabalu with Asean Countries and China... wow, let's see how this one is going to come through and sustain!

 

We might need a new KKIA3 by the looks of things! :)

 

OT, but why do they always choose that smirking/constipated picture of the poor man :D

Ummm... May be he has a weak tummy or hemorrhoid!? :D

Edited by S V Choong

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KK International Airport to be regional air travel hub

 

 

PUTRAJAYA: The Kota Kinabalu International Airport (KKIA) is set to be a hub for air travel in the region offering 38 routes connecting Asean and China.

This follows Malaysia's agreement to sign and ratify Protocol 2 Implementation of Limited Fifth Freedom under Asean-China Air Transport Agreement (AC-ATA).

The ratification will enable KKIA to be connected with 10 secondary points within Asean and 28 secondary points in China for cargo and passengers services.

Transport Minister Datuk Seri Kong Cho Ha said the Cabinet gave its nod for Malaysia to sign the protocol that would give Malaysian carriers the flexibility to strategise and plan for route expansion into Asean and China via KKIA.

He said the protocol which consisted of intra package and extra package deals would be signed in Bali during the Asean Transport Ministers' Meeting at the end of this month.

“Under the Asean-China Open Skies approach, we can expect more airlines to operate within Asean and China.

“Air travel becomes easier with more options and it benefits passengers with competitive pricing,” he said in a statement yesterday.

Kong explained that the intra package deals authorised Asean and China airlines to exercise fifth traffic rights for passenger and cargo services with unlimited flight frequencies, carrier capacity and types of aircraft for routes connecting 10 secondary points in Asean and 28 secondary points in China.

The 10 secondary points in Asean are Bandar Seri Begawan (Brunei Darussalam), Preah Sihanouk (Cambodia), Mataram (Indonesia), Luang Prabang (Laos), Kota Kinabalu (Malaysia), a destination except Yangon in Myanmar, a destination in the Philippines except Manila, Singapore, Chiang Mai (Thailand) and a destination in Vietnam except Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City.

China's 28 secondary points are Changchun, Chongqing, Xi'an, Xiamen, Urumqi, Chengdu, Shenyang, Fuzhou, Kashgar, Kunming, Dalian, Guiyang, Hohhot, Xishuangbanna, Haikou, Lanzhou, Harbin, Nanning, Sanya, Xining, Wuhan, Changsha, Yinchuan, Ningbo, Guilin, Zhengzhou, Lhasa and Yanji.

“Through the extra-package deals, the airlines are authorised to exercise fifth traffic rights for passenger and cargo services limited to 14 times a week using any type of aircraft for routes connecting 10 secondary points in Asean and 10 secondary points in China to any points outside Asean and China.

“In this regard, the Asean countries have maintained their 10 secondary points while China has named Changsha, Chengdu, Chongqing, Guilin, Kunming, Nanning, Urumqi, Xi'an, Xiamen or Fuzhou and Zhengzhou and their 10 secondary points,” he said.

Kong described the decision as strategic and would surely bring tremendous economic, trades and tourism boost to Sabah.

“Kota Kinabalu has evolved into a modern and well-known city and the expansion of connectivity with Asean and China will definitely attracts more tourist from Asean and China into visiting Sabah.

“We can expect a positive growth and spillover effects from tourist arrival in the state.

“The important thing is that KKIA will grow into a major connectivity hub and display its ability in handling a high volume of passengers and flight arrivals from all over the world,” he said.

Kong said that as of September, the airport had handled more than 4.2 million passengers.

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/11/21/business/12348504&sec=business

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