MAS Privatisation

[Robert 0]

6 hours ago, JuliusWong said:

If it is an engine issue, it wouldn't be quick fix since MH has PW, QF has GE and there are no spare around the region except from OZ, KE or CZ.

9M-MTL (yes the BKK one) has also failed in SYD so 2 aircraft AOG there. 

[BC Tam 2]

Malaysia Airlines Removes March 2025 Brisbane Schedule Listing

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/240808-mhmar25bne

Edited August 8 by BC Tam

[Robert 0]

3 hours ago, BC Tam said:

Malaysia Airlines Removes March 2025 Brisbane Schedule Listing

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/240808-mhmar25bne

maybe they couldn't get more the 700+ seats per week?

[Kee Hooi Yen 0]

11 hours ago, Robert said:

9M-MTL (yes the BKK one) has also failed in SYD so 2 aircraft AOG there. 

Saw three MH A333 in SYD today. One at the gate, two at remote stand.

[Robert 0]

1 minute ago, Kee Hooi Yen said:

Saw three MH A333 in SYD today. One at the gate, two at remote stand.

yes read the thread a few posts up - 2 aircraft have failed at SYD in 1 day. 

[Kee Hooi Yen 0]

From my mobile

[jahur 0]

1 hour ago, Robert said:

maybe they couldn't get more the 700+ seats per week?

More likely alarms were sounded repeatedly by staffs regarding aircraft and engineering vailability repeatedly that management partly conceded. Coupled with just 700 seats weekly, yields are likely on the low fence that its best to conserve the fleet.

 

[Robert 0]

1 hour ago, jahur said:

More likely alarms were sounded repeatedly by staffs regarding aircraft and engineering vailability repeatedly that management partly conceded. Coupled with just 700 seats weekly, yields are likely on the low fence that its best to conserve the fleet.

 

There seems to be plenty of unused seats with Batik which Mavcom could take so either this is an admin issue or the last few days have blown the alarms of the wall and as you pointed out the mgt started listen.

[Robert 0]

Finally some good news. 9M-MTL has left SYD as MH140D and is due to to KLIA around 20:30

[jahur 0]

2 hours ago, Robert said:

There seems to be plenty of unused seats with Batik which Mavcom could take so either this is an admin issue or the last few days have blown the alarms of the wall and as you pointed out the mgt started listen.

Actually alarms have been sounded repeatedly since last year on the impending manpower and parts shortage. But higher ups just prefer to use up the Minimum equipment list and keep the planes flying until it legally cant. There was also a funny case where the finance folks were arguing with the engineering team about a freaking screw used in an aircraft costing a lot and comparing it to a screw being sold at a hardware shop. You also have a training higher ups who were arguing with instructors on why there is need to send the A330 crew to singapore for the A350 sim training thinking the Airbus A350 A330 dual rating is same same. You also have the revenue department selling flights it may not be able to honor cause money come come more important.

Folks who are literally out of their depth.

[JuliusWong 0]

Meanwhile TG has secured another five B787 and two A330-300 as temporary lift until their own 45 new B787 gets delivered....Aiyoyo!!

[Alif A. F. 0]

5 hours ago, jahur said:

Actually alarms have been sounded repeatedly since last year on the impending manpower and parts shortage. But higher ups just prefer to use up the Minimum equipment list and keep the planes flying until it legally cant. There was also a funny case where the finance folks were arguing with the engineering team about a freaking screw used in an aircraft costing a lot and comparing it to a screw being sold at a hardware shop. You also have a training higher ups who were arguing with instructors on why there is need to send the A330 crew to singapore for the A350 sim training thinking the Airbus A350 A330 dual rating is same same. You also have the revenue department selling flights it may not be able to honor cause money come come more important.

Folks who are literally out of their depth.

How competent are these people in running the airline? 

[jahur 0]

1 hour ago, Alif A. F. said:

How competent are these people in running the airline? 

These higher up folks are installed in just to collect as much money for the company as it can without long term planning on retention and logic. Typical chinamen bosses that are just there to cut throat in operation cost and to get stuff as cheap as possible. 

Arguing with engineers about an aviation certified mandated parts that the price of that said screw should be the same as the one from a kedai runcit hardware store in pricing. Then one arguing why pilots who are dual rated 330 350 need to be consistently be flown overseas for a350 sim base check as it incurs cost to fly them there while they assume the airbus common rating suffices in just practicing in the 330 sim in kl lol. Pretty basic stuff but these bosses seem to be not aware. It shows how out of incompetent some of these folks are.

[Kee Hooi Yen 0]

11 hours ago, Kee Hooi Yen said:

Saw three MH A333 in SYD today. One at the gate, two at remote stand.

It is quite common to see two SQ birds or CX birds in SYD at the same time. This time MH beats them by 3-2 ?

[JonathanFong 0]

3 hours ago, jahur said:

These higher up folks are installed in just to collect as much money for the company as it can without long term planning on retention and logic. Typical chinamen bosses that are just there to cut throat in operation cost and to get stuff as cheap as possible. 

Arguing with engineers about an aviation certified mandated parts that the price of that said screw should be the same as the one from a kedai runcit hardware store in pricing. Then one arguing why pilots who are dual rated 330 350 need to be consistently be flown overseas for a350 sim base check as it incurs cost to fly them there while they assume the airbus common rating suffices in just practicing in the 330 sim in kl lol. Pretty basic stuff but these bosses seem to be not aware. It shows how out of incompetent some of these folks are.

I'm gonna be honest. This doesn't fill me with much confidence for MH's future. Sounds like it's only a matter of time something in the chain snaps...

[Izanee 0]

29 minutes ago, JonathanFong said:

I'm gonna be honest. This doesn't fill me with much confidence for MH's future. Sounds like it's only a matter of time something in the chain snaps...

Yeah, completely agree. This makes me really anxious about travelling on MH. One small mistake and that will be enough. Very shortsighted indeed, and also the management sounds incompetent to me 

[KK Lee 5]

7 hours ago, JonathanFong said:

I'm gonna be honest. This doesn't fill me with much confidence for MH's future. Sounds like it's only a matter of time something in the chain snaps...

 

11 hours ago, jahur said:

These higher up folks are installed in just to collect as much money for the company as it can without long term planning on retention and logic. Typical chinamen bosses that are just there to cut throat in operation cost and to get stuff as cheap as possible. 

Arguing with engineers about an aviation certified mandated parts that the price of that said screw should be the same as the one from a kedai runcit hardware store in pricing. Then one arguing why pilots who are dual rated 330 350 need to be consistently be flown overseas for a350 sim base check as it incurs cost to fly them there while they assume the airbus common rating suffices in just practicing in the 330 sim in kl lol. Pretty basic stuff but these bosses seem to be not aware. It shows how out of incompetent some of these folks are.

Looks like mas is withering; fleet size, frequency and routes is more likely to reduce than increase in a few years time.

[Pall 0]

12 hours ago, jahur said:

These higher up folks are installed in just to collect as much money for the company as it can without long term planning on retention and logic. Typical chinamen bosses that are just there to cut throat in operation cost and to get stuff as cheap as possible. 

Arguing with engineers about an aviation certified mandated parts that the price of that said screw should be the same as the one from a kedai runcit hardware store in pricing. Then one arguing why pilots who are dual rated 330 350 need to be consistently be flown overseas for a350 sim base check as it incurs cost to fly them there while they assume the airbus common rating suffices in just practicing in the 330 sim in kl lol. Pretty basic stuff but these bosses seem to be not aware. It shows how out of incompetent some of these folks are.

Whats funny is that this higher up folks are making 2-3x more than market for their similar role. While those engineers and pilots who are considered as highly niched and specialized roles are making below market rate. 

[JonathanFong 0]

5 hours ago, Pall said:

Whats funny is that this higher up folks are making 2-3x more than market for their similar role. While those engineers and pilots who are considered as highly niched and specialized roles are making below market rate. 

When you think about it, the way MH is being run is a bit of a microcosm of Malaysia as a whole. Expecting results on a shoestring budget while the higher ups make bank despite not being the most qualified for the job, but I digress. What still surprises me is why MAG management thinks shoring up the accounts is more important than a loss of goodwill, loss of reputation, loss of revenue arising out of the former 2, increased compensation pay out due to disruptions, etc etc etc.

[Alif A. F. 0]

1 hour ago, JonathanFong said:

When you think about it, the way MH is being run is a bit of a microcosm of Malaysia as a whole. Expecting results on a shoestring budget while the higher ups make bank despite not being the most qualified for the job, but I digress. What still surprises me is why MAG management thinks shoring up the accounts is more important than a loss of goodwill, loss of reputation, loss of revenue arising out of the former 2, increased compensation pay out due to disruptions, etc etc etc.

As long as the government saves the day…

Seems like this is the general mindset of government depts in this country, only act when ministers told them to or reactive to current situation but seems no forward sightedness to solve overarching issue.

Their benchmark seems to be who got higher position grade than who - ‘performance belakang cerita’.

[KK Lee 5]

6 hours ago, JonathanFong said:

When you think about it, the way MH is being run is a bit of a microcosm of Malaysia as a whole. Expecting results on a shoestring budget while the higher ups make bank despite not being the most qualified for the job, but I digress. What still surprises me is why MAG management thinks shoring up the accounts is more important than a loss of goodwill, loss of reputation, loss of revenue arising out of the former 2, increased compensation pay out due to disruptions, etc etc etc.

 

4 hours ago, Alif A. F. said:

As long as the government saves the day…

Seems like this is the general mindset of government depts in this country, only act when ministers told them to or reactive to current situation but seems no forward sightedness to solve overarching issue.

Their benchmark seems to be who got higher position grade than who - ‘performance belakang cerita’.

Most senior positions in glc are on contract. Their objective is to meet kpi and renew contract.

 

[Pall 0]

9 hours ago, KK Lee said:

 

Most senior positions in glc are on contract. Their objective is to meet kpi and renew contract.

 

100 marks for this. Exactly the story at the top end of MH.

[Paul Saccani 0]

On 8/9/2024 at 3:04 PM, jahur said:

Actually alarms have been sounded repeatedly since last year on the impending manpower and parts shortage. But higher ups just prefer to use up the Minimum equipment list and keep the planes flying until it legally cant. There was also a funny case where the finance folks were arguing with the engineering team about a freaking screw used in an aircraft costing a lot and comparing it to a screw being sold at a hardware shop. You also have a training higher ups who were arguing with instructors on why there is need to send the A330 crew to singapore for the A350 sim training thinking the Airbus A350 A330 dual rating is same same. You also have the revenue department selling flights it may not be able to honor cause money come come more important.

Folks who are literally out of their depth.

Do they not have management pilots in charge of training?  So is this the CCQ for A350 sim training that whoever this higher up is, doesn't understand that you have to do it?  There would probably still be differences training for MAS aircraft on top of that.

Hardware shop screws can be used on aircraft, a bit of paperwork though.  I did replace some US$20,000 each regular plumbing shop taps in the potable water system with a different one purchased direct from the manufacturer.  To get a lifetime supply for the fleet and qaulify the part cost about US$14,000, versus the immediate problem would have cost US40,000 for two taps from the TC holder.  We also put literal hardware store screws into the fleet.

If they aren't using PMA parts, they can also save costs there legitimately.   If the airworthiness people are on the ball, they can get negotiate with a manufacturer to have a PMA extended to cover MAS types, if not already covered.  Stupid little things like light bulbs and landing lights can give you great savings if you get the PMA part.

[jahur 0]

9 minutes ago, Paul Saccani said:

Do they not have management pilots in charge of training?  So is this the CCQ for A350 sim training that whoever this higher up is, doesn't understand that you have to do it?  There would probably still be differences training for MAS aircraft on top of that.

Hardware shop screws can be used on aircraft, a bit of paperwork though.  I did replace some US$20,000 each regular plumbing shop taps in the potable water system with a different one purchased direct from the manufacturer.  To get a lifetime supply for the fleet and qaulify the part cost about US$14,000, versus the immediate problem would have cost US40,000 for two taps from the TC holder.  We also put literal hardware store screws into the fleet.

If they aren't using PMA parts, they can also save costs there legitimately.   If the airworthiness people are on the ball, they can get negotiate with a manufacturer to have a PMA extended to cover MAS types, if not already covered.  Stupid little things like light bulbs and landing lights can give you great savings if you get the PMA part.

There's quite a few of them. Problems those higher ups installed on the department are mostly from a finance background little to no background in aviation. Stuff like recurrent training and 1 take off landing min per 3 months on the a350 to retain the rating or its a mandatory sim, they do not understand and its a constant battle that management pilots and instructors have to tell the department higher ups and finance repeatedly. They even push the idea of shortening the line training by half but will probably get a club stick and hit the whole training dept if a shortcut cadet pilot damages an aircraft lol.

I don't think it spells much confidence to switch out bolts and handles from a dodgy supplier. The issue pertains that finance folks were arguing why the mandated certified parts could not be priced the same as a hardware store item(with no known proper source of supply) that cost 10cents. The cost involving Parts manufacturer approved items have been repeatedly renegotiated ever since Christoph Mueler came in years ago it has significantly brought down the price rate. The whole mess we're seeing now is the finance department just trying to weasel any cost saving measures out of nothing.

[Robert 0]

Looks like the LHR route has had a few issues over the weekend

MH1
ok

MH2
10/08 Cancelled (FR24 says MAE)
11/08 MH2D departed KL 15:04 (1 hour late from its rescheduled time)
11/8 Delayed to 06:15 on 12/08 MAC to operate it

MH3
12/08 MH3 and MH3D scheduled to depart LHR at 11:00 and 11:15

MH4
OK

So a quick check on the LHR capable A350's
MAB - operational and ok
MAC - operational and ok
MAD - Late leaving LHR and
KUL MAE - Failed to fly to LHR on 10/08. 11/08 now flying to LHR as MH2D
MAF - Ok ish - some flights a little delayed
MAG - MRO since 27/06