MAS Privatisation

[Robert 0]

Just now, JuliusWong said:

Airbus ran a website on this https://aircraft.airbus.com/en/more-commonality-better-integration A lot of good read.

thx will read it 

[Craig 0]

36 minutes ago, Robert said:

I wouldn't be unhappy with the XLR

New routes announced for Summer 2025: KUL-DXB-LGW/MAN, KUL-BNE-CHC/WLG, KUL-GUM-HNL-LAX/SFO 😬

I hope if they do get the XLR/Neo, please configure it better than the Max.

Will the 737Max fleet will be moved over to FY in the medium term or will MH operate both 320/737 should this materialize. 

[Izanee 0]

3 hours ago, Craig said:

New routes announced for Summer 2025: KUL-DXB-LGW/MAN, KUL-BNE-CHC/WLG, KUL-GUM-HNL-LAX/SFO 😬

I hope if they do get the XLR/Neo, please configure it better than the Max.

Will the 737Max fleet will be moved over to FY in the medium term or will MH operate both 320/737 should this materialize. 

are you serious or is this a joke? 
interesting expansion if anything 

[JuliusWong 0]

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"Malaysia Airlines is delighted to announce the expansion of codeshare flights with China Southern Airlines. This exciting collaboration on flights will include Guangzhou-Penang, Kuala Lumpur-Beijing Daxing and Kuala Lumpur-Shanghai Pudong, strengthening connectivity for travel and enabling travellers to enjoy diversified travel options."

CZ one step closer to oneworld alliance?

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Malaysia Airlines welcomes first Orang Asli cabin crew

(From Left) Amyisha, Sarah Elissa, Alzariza and Veena Angelina are the first group of cabin crew from the Orang Asli community — Pic from Malaysia Airlines

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2024/07/12/malaysia-airlines-welcomes-first-orang-asli-cabin-crew/143463?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=news&utm_id=news&utm_term=Autofeed&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR1zdloU96lalwuxkej5FxNG3HWrjQYx33VAcjDo9D4eufpgtWsfb6MzbfE_aem_nO4CCt2CUMTg3xuy5tK9pA

Friday, 12 Jul 2024 4:46 PM MYT

KUALA LUMPUR, July 12 — Malaysia Airlines Bhd said four Orang Asli cabin crew members were among its first two batch of graduates from its training academy, becoming the first of the indigenous people to do so.

Amyisha Nurshahira Rosman from Suku Jakun; Sarah Elissa Tang Aman from Suku Temuan; Veena Angelina Jincis from Suku Semai; and Alzariza Alwi from Suku Semai are among the 56 cabin crew who recently completed their training and commenced serving aboard Malaysia Airlines flights since May 7, 2024.

The graduation ceremony yesterday was graced by Orang Asli Development Department (Jakoa) director-general Datuk Sapiah Mohd Nor.

 

[Craig 0]

1 hour ago, Izanee said:

are you serious or is this a joke? 
interesting expansion if anything 

Joke. They haven't even signed anything yet. It's hearsay for now with regards to the 321 XLR. But knowing MH, it wouldn't be inconceivable that they might use the 320 XLR for say secondary cities in South/East Asia (e.g. ATQ, AMD, FUK), Australia e.g. DRW/CNS, or second daily flight to KIX/ICN/PEK/PVG.

5 minutes ago, JuliusWong said:

CZ one step closer to oneworld alliance?

I always thought CX was the one vetoing their application. CX wants CA. oneworld is still quite loose with QF not exactly friends with a few members, CX is pretty much doing their own thing. I'd prefer if they invite a central Europe or Latin America partner instead. These are 2 huge holes that needed to be filled. 

[Adam Lawrence 0]

Malaysia Airlines welcomes first Orang Asli cabin crew

 

I can see Air Asia to follow suit

Edited July 12 by Adam Lawrence

[KK Lee 5]

4 hours ago, JuliusWong said:

Malaysia Airlines welcomes first Orang Asli cabin crew

Does it mean MAS specifically exclude them previously?

 

4 hours ago, JuliusWong said:

 

CZ one step closer to oneworld alliance?

CZ home base is literally next to HKG, CX unlikely to agree.

[JuliusWong 0]

4 hours ago, Craig said:

I always thought CX was the one vetoing their application. CX wants CA. oneworld is still quite loose with QF not exactly friends with a few members, CX is pretty much doing their own thing. I'd prefer if they invite a central Europe or Latin America partner instead. These are 2 huge holes that needed to be filled. 

I don't think each airline has the veto-ing rights as per se. CX may put up a protest but if majority of the airlines are accepting a new member, I don't think CX can do anything. CA is sticking to Star Alliance, and I don't think they will leave any time soon. CX may not join Star Alliance due to the presence of SQ, even though Air China has some shares in CX. CZ joining oneworld is possible since the Mainland China is now pushing the Greater Bay area agenda, to mirror San Francisco. 

QF's bad blood with CX started in the 1970s and dragged until today due to various reasons with the changing era. It started of with QF flying their flashy new B707 into HKG from SYD in the 70s/80s when CX could not afford anything new. CX was forced to suspend the route since they could not compete with prop airliner Electra I think. 

In the 2010s, CX torpedo-ed QF's plan to set up LCC Jetstar Hong Kong with China Eastern Airlines back in 2012. They lobbied very hard with the local government to move the goalposts each time Jetstar HK made adjustment to fulfill the requirement. A fleet of five to seven A320 were invented painted in full livery waiting for delivery in TLS. The whole saga dragged on for three years until 2015 when QF decided enough is enough. CX has always thought they did not need LCCs, HK being a premium destination, the irony is CX ended buying HK Express a year before covid hit HK. It has never make any profit under HNA Group then upon CX buying them, it did not even make any money, CX ended up burning more money.

The QF non-existent relationship with QR since QF partners with EK. In return, QF blocked QR's request for more landing rights in Australia. Now QR is planning to buy into VA.

QF-MH.......this saga mentioned few times here......

But QF is good with AA, BA, JL (also has LCC Jetstar Japan operation), AY and IB. 

For Latin America, there isn't any major airline left to join an alliance. LATAM left and will most probably join Skyteam with AR and since DL has some shares in them. Avianca and COPA are in Star Alliance. Azul works with Star Alliance member TAP and UA. GOL is a LCC. 

Central Europe maybe Condor? The rest are conquered by LH and its family members and LOT Polish Airlines.

[Adam Lawrence 0]

8 hours ago, KK Lee said:

Does it mean MAS specifically exclude them previously?

 

 

Not about the airline or the company, but more about the Orang Asli community themselves.. maybe in the past they were not exposed or felt confident to apply for this kind of job. Have you seen Orang Asli (not Sabahan or Sarawakian natives) working as cabin crew or pilot or aircraft engineer with other airlines before?

[KK Lee 5]

2 hours ago, Adam Lawrence said:

Not about the airline or the company, but more about the Orang Asli community themselves.. maybe in the past they were not exposed or felt confident to apply for this kind of job. Have you seen Orang Asli (not Sabahan or Sarawakian natives) working as cabin crew or pilot or aircraft engineer with other airlines before?

If orang asli is muslim, they are classified as malay.

[Craig 0]

1 hour ago, KK Lee said:

If orang asli is muslim, they are classified as malay.

May I know how did you come to this conclusion?

[Pall 0]

5 hours ago, KK Lee said:

If orang asli is muslim, they are classified as malay.

Incorrect. They will still be classified under their respective "Suku Kaum".

[Craig 0]

Is MH trying to get the biggest bang for the buck with their interns? They are canceling flights and renumbering them instead of delaying flights nowadays. Can’t imagine the cancelation rate for those affected flights. 
 

e.g.  tonight’s MH160 (to DOH) was canceled only to be renumbered as MH284 that was scheduled to depart an hour later (but it ended up departing 30 minutes past MH284 departure time of 22:00). The return MH161 remained as it is. 
 

MH 284 used the inbound MH165 for the turnaround. 

[Riza 0]

Lately i saw some flights to both KIX & ICN departing KUL at around 0600 to 0730 though not daily. Dont know if these are scheduled but since the flight number doesnt start with 7 then surely its not an extra flight. 

[Craig 0]

11 minutes ago, Riza said:

Lately i saw some flights to both KIX & ICN departing KUL at around 0600 to 0730 though not daily. Dont know if these are scheduled but since the flight number doesnt start with 7 then surely its not an extra flight. 

They don't "delay" a flight anymore. It appears that they are canceling the original flight (e.g. MH 52/66) and replace them with a new flight number (MH 54/64). It's quite messy now. They need to get their house in order or at least lease planes for their Haj operations. 332 showing up in places they shouldn't be, e.g. SYD, MEL, KIX, ADL etc.

[Riza 0]

3 hours ago, Craig said:

They don't "delay" a flight anymore. It appears that they are canceling the original flight (e.g. MH 52/66) and replace them with a new flight number (MH 54/64). It's quite messy now. They need to get their house in order or at least lease planes for their Haj operations. 332 showing up in places they shouldn't be, e.g. SYD, MEL, KIX, ADL etc.

And usually flight to North Asia that is always affected. 

[Craig 0]

2 hours ago, Riza said:

And usually flight to North Asia that is always affected. 

Not really lol. Try looking at DEL, BOM, MEL, AKL, PER on-time performance. They don't even fly the same schedule anymore. Some days they just cancel and renumber a flight and some days they re-schedule a flight to make it looks like it's not delayed. e.g. MH129 to MEL on 15/7 was rescheduled to 1215 instead of the usual departure of 0920 and it's reflected in the GDS (so they don't get hit with a delay) but yet it was delayed to a 1302 departure. Flight was operated by 9M-MTW and it turned around from MH 157 (from JED) that arrived at 1137 (STA was 1115). MH129 a week ago (7/7) left KUL at 1630 and arrived MEL at 0142+1. 

[Robert 0]

The latest on the A339 from Avolon:

 

[jahur 0]

43 minutes ago, Robert said:

The latest on the A339 from Avolon:

 

Some of the Airbus owned frames will be coming in next year as well down to 2026.

[JuliusWong 0]

6 hours ago, Robert said:

The latest on the A339 from Avolon:

 

10 frames directly from Avolon order book, another 10 under MAG's own order with Airbus, but will be sale and leaseback to Avolon (maybe after a few years of operation). 20 options, yet to be exercised. http://www.avolon.aero/news/avlon-agrees-transaction-for-20-a330neo-aircraft-with-malaysia-aviation-group

Edited July 19 by JuliusWong

[Robert 0]

1 hour ago, JuliusWong said:

10 frames directly from Avolon order book, another 10 under MAG's own order with Airbus, but will be sale and leaseback to Avolon (maybe after a few years of operation). 20 options, yet to be exercised. http://www.avolon.aero/news/avlon-agrees-transaction-for-20-a330neo-aircraft-with-malaysia-aviation-group

Whats the story with the CIT leasing corp ones?

Any idea when the MAG direct order ones maybe delivered? 

[Robert 0]

Looks like MH1 has diverted to Baku. 

Any idea of the reason why? Can't see anything on X or google

[Craig 0]

MH114 diverted to Yangon as well but it's now on the way to KTM after about 11 hours on the ground.

[Robert 0]

2 hours ago, Robert said:

Looks like MH1 has diverted to Baku. 

Any idea of the reason why? Can't see anything on X or google

MH1 is on its  way. I guess it could be a medical emergency 

Edited July 20 by Robert