BC Tam 2 Report post Posted July 9 Maybe they thought painting on the 'Negaraku' livery can be passed off as some artistic interpretation of CAAM's requirement ?! ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted July 9 (edited) 4 hours ago, JuliusWong said: Source: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/11388650 Instantly obvious without any bit of uncertainty - it's the "-neo" version ? Edited July 9 by BC Tam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted July 9 2 hours ago, JuliusWong said: The issue is the MALAYSIA under the flag does not appear in any of the newly delivered B737MAX. LOL....and MH has gone through repainting almost the whole fleet with the "Negaraku" livery. Only a few airframes have left to be repaint. *Smack head* Attention to detail is not in the mindset of MAG personnel. The same goes for CAAM personnel - this lack of enforcement may again put the FAA Category 1 status in question. All Airasia and Batik Air Malaysia follow the CAAM rules but MAG gets away with it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Bandit 0 Report post Posted July 9 10 hours ago, JuliusWong said: The issue is the MALAYSIA under the flag does not appear in any of the newly delivered B737MAX. LOL....and MH has gone through repainting almost the whole fleet with the "Negaraku" livery. Only a few airframes have left to be repaint. *Smack head* The initial release of ‘’Malaysia’ wording in the time of MAX delivery is a just recommendation. But now it become a mandatory. MAG will have to fulfill these by latest this October to comply this requirement for all of its fleet. No stickers allowed but a repainting which will take time as the hangar slot is somehow full most of time. Minimum of 3 days ground time is require for every repaint work inclusive of curing time for paint for a single aircraft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert 0 Report post Posted July 9 1 hour ago, Mr.Bandit said: The initial release of ‘’Malaysia’ wording in the time of MAX delivery is a just recommendation. But now it become a mandatory. MAG will have to fulfill these by latest this October to comply this requirement for all of its fleet. No stickers allowed but a repainting which will take time as the hangar slot is somehow full most of time. Minimum of 3 days ground time is require for every repaint work inclusive of curing time for paint for a single aircraft. As per the CAAM doc its been mandatory for quite a long while Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Bandit 0 Report post Posted July 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, Robert said: As per the CAAM doc its been mandatory for quite a long while Yes, the issue is from 1 April 2021. The B737 MAX order was made and finalized in 2016 and MAB is expecting the first delivery by beginning of 2019. Due to Covid-19 and grounding of MAX all over the world, the delivery you see nowadays is as what had been planned years ago. The airframe is there grounding for a long time. This is why these early airframes are problematic since the operation days. From fifth B737-8 (9M-MVE) we can see the current changes, similar with latest livery as seen in A330-900Neo. Slanted tail logo, italic ‘’malaysiaairlines”, Malaysia wording, what under the belly and so on. Edited July 9 by Mr.Bandit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 Report post Posted July 10 What's going on with MH's A333 fleet? It seems like the schedules are all messed up again. And now instead of delaying, they are canceling and assigning a new flight number for the replacement flight. e.g. MH54 to KIX is operating today and Friday morning (instead of Tuesday and Thursday night), so there'd be 2 KUL-KIX flights today and Friday. MH 64/86 is the new early morning flight to ICN (replacing MH66). MH7x (IIRC MH74) is one of the early morning daytime flights to NRT replacing MH88. 9M-MAC went tech at LHR a few days ago. I am curious how long management thinks this will hold with passengers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted July 10 43 minutes ago, Craig said: What's going on with MH's A333 fleet? It seems like the schedules are all messed up again. And now instead of delaying, they are canceling and assigning a new flight number for the replacement flight. e.g. MH54 to KIX is operating today and Friday morning (instead of Tuesday and Thursday night), so there'd be 2 KUL-KIX flights today and Friday. MH 64/86 is the new early morning flight to ICN (replacing MH66). MH7x (IIRC MH74) is one of the early morning daytime flights to NRT replacing MH88. 9M-MAC went tech at LHR a few days ago. I am curious how long management thinks this will hold with passengers. There are currently two A350s and at least four A330-200-300 grounded for unscheduled and unscheduled maintenance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted July 10 10 hours ago, Mr.Bandit said: The initial release of ‘’Malaysia’ wording in the time of MAX delivery is a just recommendation. But now it become a mandatory. MAG will have to fulfill these by latest this October to comply this requirement for all of its fleet. No stickers allowed but a repainting which will take time as the hangar slot is somehow full most of time. Minimum of 3 days ground time is require for every repaint work inclusive of curing time for paint for a single aircraft. Oh dear......highly doubt they can repaint the whole fleet by October 2024. There are so many aircraft to repaint. I am foresee they will apply for another exemption or waiver to delay it to later date. What a waste of resources to repaint rather than just slap a sticker, CAAM doesn't seem to have issue with Batik Air Group though, their fleet livery is all over the place, wither stickers all over or naked.....Hahaha! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert 0 Report post Posted July 10 13 minutes ago, JuliusWong said: There are currently two A350s and at least four A330-200-300 grounded for unscheduled and unscheduled maintenance. MAC was fixed and has been working for the past few days MAF - AOG since 8 May (I'm guessing scheduled) MAG - AOG since 26 June No time to check all A330 aircraft Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Bandit 0 Report post Posted July 10 2 hours ago, Craig said: What's going on with MH's A333 fleet? It seems like the schedules are all messed up again. And now instead of delaying, they are canceling and assigning a new flight number for the replacement flight. e.g. MH54 to KIX is operating today and Friday morning (instead of Tuesday and Thursday night), so there'd be 2 KUL-KIX flights today and Friday. MH 64/86 is the new early morning flight to ICN (replacing MH66). MH7x (IIRC MH74) is one of the early morning daytime flights to NRT replacing MH88. 9M-MAC went tech at LHR a few days ago. I am curious how long management thinks this will hold with passengers. I believed they are shortage of aircraft due to some aircraft has been allocated to cater for Hajj return flight. MTG, MTH, MTI is currently undergoing schedule heavy maintenance. Yes, it is messy right now with all the flip flop rescheduling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted July 10 The aftermath of Idris Jala and Tengku Aznil tenure as MH CEO continues until today. What a sad case. They should have firmed up the 10 additional purchasing option for A330-300 in the early 2010s. Those additional frames would come in handy now. 21 A330 (plus the occasional A350s) for the whole Asia-Paciifc operation are simply not enough to go around. Time to call Korean Air or China Southern Airlines for their PW-engine A330-300. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kandiah k 0 Report post Posted July 10 They are not really listening, are they? ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pall 0 Report post Posted July 10 1 hour ago, kandiah k said: They are not really listening, are they? ??? All got their own individual KPI’s to think about, nothing beyond their scope. Forever silo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted July 10 2 hours ago, JuliusWong said: The aftermath of Idris Jala and Tengku Aznil tenure as MH CEO continues until today. What a sad case. They should have firmed up the 10 additional purchasing option for A330-300 in the early 2010s. Those additional frames would come in handy now. 21 A330 (plus the occasional A350s) for the whole Asia-Paciifc operation are simply not enough to go around. Time to call Korean Air or China Southern Airlines for their PW-engine A330-300. Once again, we criticise MH for their lack of foresight and fleet planning. They are demonstrating the same weakness again with their A350 fleet. It has reached mid life and no one is even mentioning its replacement. As we know, the lead time between ordering and delivery is getting longer and longer. If they are not thinking about the future of the A350 fleet now, they will most likely suffer the same pain as they are suffering now with the A330 fleet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert 0 Report post Posted July 10 on a slightly different topic I does anyone know the latest plan/timelines for the remaining 737 cabin upgrades? This list appeared on Flyertalk earlier today Old hantu interior: FFF, MLK, MLL Interior with IFE screens: MXA, MXB, MXC, MXG, MXJ, MXM, MXR, MXT, MXU, MXW, MXY, MSB, MLQ & MLR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted July 10 19 minutes ago, Robert said: on a slightly different topic I does anyone know the latest plan/timelines for the remaining 737 cabin upgrades? This list appeared on Flyertalk earlier today Old hantu interior: FFF, MLK, MLL Interior with IFE screens: MXA, MXB, MXC, MXG, MXJ, MXM, MXR, MXT, MXU, MXW, MXY, MSB, MLQ & MLR 9M-MXB being refurbished now, 9M-MLR is now stored in Dhaka after suffering an engine stall on takeoff on June 10, 2024. That's two aircraft short at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted July 11 (edited) ©AirTeamImages Dug back some history on Malaysia Airlines's B737-800NG fleet and order. October 2005 - Malaysia Airlines's journey with B737-800 started in 2005 with the lease of two Travel Service of Czech Republic. OK-TVC and OK-TVD were with Malaysia Airlines for a short period of time, about five months. April 1, 2008 - Malaysia Airlines placed an order for 55 B737-800, worth USD 4.2 billion at list price, to replace its aging B737-400 fleet. The order comprises of 35 firm orders and 20 options. May 20, 2010 - The induction of first Malaysia Airlines B737-800 on long term lease from third party, registration 9M-MLD. The airframe originated from China's now defunct Okay Airways and flew with Malaysia Airlines for the next five years before returning to its lessor AWAS (later sold to DAE Capital) October 29, 2010 - The first factory-custom built B737-800 for Malaysia Airlines arrived at KUL. Registration 9M-MXA. Malaysia Airlines was the first airlines in Asia Pacific to take delivery of the next generation of B737 with Boeing Sky Interior. January 31, 2011 - Malaysia Airlines converted 10 of the 20 options in 2010 order to firm order, bringing total firm order to 45. December 18, 2014 - Malaysia Airlines took delivery of its last factory-custom built B737-800 9M-MXY which carried "Malaysia Airlines 100th Boeing 737" sticker from Dec 2014 - Dec 2022 October 1, 2015 - Malaysia Airlines cancelled delivery of the three B737-800, already built by Boeing. These airframes later joined Turkey's Pegasus Airlines. The trio airframes were part of additional B737-800 order by Malaysia Airlines in 2013. The actual order number was unknown, but order was entirely cancelled. CAPA reported that Malaysia Airlines was supposed to take delivery of two in 2015 and a final six aircraft in 2016 (excludes separate commitments with leasing companies). July - September 2017 - Malaysia Airlines returned six factory-custom built B737-800 to lessors and added six A330-200s in 2018 as replacement. Total fleet, excluding leased non-custom built airframes, is 45. Total leased non-custom built airframes is 17, including OK-TVC and OK-TVD. Edited July 11 by JuliusWong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted July 12 More delay to B737 max delivery: Quote Boeing warns customers of further delays on 737 Max, Bloomberg News says By Reuters July 12, 2024 10:24 AM GMT+8 Updated 10 min ago July 11 (Reuters) - Boeing (BA.N), opens new tab has notified, opens new tab some 737 Max customers in recent weeks that aircraft due for delivery in 2025 and 2026 might face additional delays of three to six months, Bloomberg News reported on Thursday, citing people familiar with the matter. Boeing did not immediately respond to a Reuters request for comment. Reuters reported last month citing two industry sources that Boeing informed its suppliers it was delaying a key production milestone for its 737 jet family by three months as Boeing's jet production has slowed sharply in the face of increased scrutiny from regulators, airlines and lawmakers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pall 0 Report post Posted July 12 Heard from insiders that MH is exploring A321neo XLR. With some leased A320ceo's coming ahead of the A321neo should the deal materialize. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert 0 Report post Posted July 12 27 minutes ago, Pall said: Heard from insiders that MH is exploring A321neo XLR. With some leased A320ceo's coming ahead of the A321neo should the deal materialize. I wouldn't be unhappy with the XLR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted July 12 24 minutes ago, Pall said: Heard from insiders that MH is exploring A321neo XLR. With some leased A320ceo's coming ahead of the A321neo should the deal materialize. Heard the same thing, but their Finance is VERY VERY reluctant to open their purse to pay for the premium tag A321neo/A321neoXLR is now commanding. They are going around begging for discount, not an issue to ask for discount, but aiyo, jangan buang air muka lah. Turkish Airlines just signed up another 10 A321neo lease two days ago. Seems to me lessors still have some/many empty slots to go around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted July 12 9 minutes ago, Robert said: I wouldn't be unhappy with the XLR Haha, don't count your chicken before it hatches. Who knows we will end up with more used, banged up B737-800NG!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert 0 Report post Posted July 12 1 minute ago, JuliusWong said: Haha, don't count your chicken before it hatches. Who knows we will end up with more used, banged up B737-800NG!! If MH were to move to A320/321 how much commonality is there with the A332/333/359 fleet? Crew/maintenance etc ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted July 12 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Robert said: If MH were to move to A320/321 how much commonality is there with the A332/333/359 fleet? Crew/maintenance etc ? Airbus runs a website on this https://aircraft.airbus.com/en/more-commonality-better-integration A lot of good read. Edited July 12 by JuliusWong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
