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1 hour ago, Craig said:

FY's ATR are around 10 years old now?

I agree that the A220 is great for passenger comfort. And I can see some cities around Malaysia or secondary/tertiary ASEAN cities that FY/AK/MH can serve with the A220/Embraers (the 737/320 looks oversize). But if FY were to get those A220/Ejets, they'd need to operate out of KUL instead of SZB since they are technically jet and not props (and I am not sure how Raya Airways get away with it with their 757/767s at SZB)?

Yeap most are averaging 12 years old now with the oldest approaching 14 very soon. Reports from Maswings and Firefly that their atr72 were already having growing tech issue begining of 2013. There was a critical period when i recall Maswing only had 6 aircrafts and 4 were aog no spare to cushion the operational impact. In the old days 10% of your fleet would be on standby for such situation. Dwindling yields etc nowdays its pretty much 100% utilisation. 

The a220 can operate out of SZB but dont think it can properly hold the same amount of aircrafts than the atr72 fleet due to the larger size. One thing i did notice overseas was the regional jet fares technically being slightly higher than the 320/737 counterpart throughout. Not sure if msia would be able to accept it or not knowing we are a very price sensitive market.

As for operational issue in SZB. New gen aircrafts are technically quiet and should not be a noise burden nowadays. Raya 767 757 and old days 727 were a lot more noisier and as of today they still have early 2am morning arrivals not forgetting RMAFs c130s and a400ms so doubt noise concerns is the issue. SZB is just being constrained to avoid cannibalizing part of KLIAs traffic hence the turboprops only while Raya operating as cargo were not affected.

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Not sure what happened with MAG purchase of 36 ATR 72-600s back in 2013. 20 firm orders + 16 options. It was one of the ATR's largest order for that year. Only 12 were delivered and the first copy only saw operation with FY for only three years, and the last was only in operation for four months before they were sent away. 

9M-FIA    
MSN 1093    
Delivered: 2013 
Left: 4 May 2016 
Now with PK-NYY NAM Air        

9M-MYA 
MSN 1099    
Delivered: 25 Jul 2013    
Left: 28 Dec 2015    
Now with D4-BFA Bestfly Cabo Verde 

9M-FIB    
MSN 1128    
Delivered: 20 Dec 2013    
Left: 19 Jun 2016    
Now with PK-NYZ NAM Air        

9M-MYB 
MSN 1153    
Delivered: 23 May 2014
Left: 31 Dec 2015    
Now with PK-NYU NAM Air        

9M-FIC    
MSN 1158
Delivered: 1 Jul 2014    
Left: 23 Apr 2016    
Now with PK-NYW NAM Air    

9M-MYC    
MSN 1170
Delivered: 8 Aug 2014    
Left: 21 Dec 2015    
Now with PK-NYT NAM Air

9M-FID    
MSN 1178
Delivered: 24 Sep 2014    
Left: 30 Oct 2016    
Now with UR-RWA Windrose Airlines     

9M-MYD    
MSN 1187
Delivered: Nov 2014    
Left: 9 Aug 2016    
Now with PK-TVM Travira Air    

9M-FIE    
MSN 1235
Delivered: 5 Mar 2015    
Left: 29 Oct 2016
Now with PR-PFD Imetame        

9M-FIF    
MSN 1259    
Delivered: 3 Jul 2015    
Left: 29 Oct 2016
Now with YU-ALY Air Serbia    

9M-FIG
MSN 1262    
Delivered: 28 Aug 2015
Left: 29 Oct 2016
Now with UR-RWB Windrose Airlines     
 

9M-FIH    
MSN 1285
Delivered: 28 Apr 2016     
Left: 28 Oct 2016
Now with TR-ABJ Afrijet Business Service   

Source: https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Malaysia-Aviation-Group

 

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1 hour ago, JuliusWong said:

Not sure what happened with MAG purchase of 36 ATR 72-600s back in 2013. 20 firm orders + 16 options. It was one of the ATR's largest order for that year. 

Last heard the option to execute the remaining atr's can be done its just up to MAG. They may also allow MAG to transfer some of the unfulfilled orders to ATR EVO as the turboprop market has not been doing that well so far. Unfortunately limited funding and cash reserve it can only commit the 737 and 330 replacement. 

I still think it was stupid for the state gov of east msia and MOT to bulldozed the operational flight subsidies for the 600 series. They were adamant for MASwings to use the atr72-500 like the old fokker days until it rots after 15-16 years of use then probably only signalling for a new aircraft order. Aircrafts are just not that long lasting nowadays. Also for them to think Airasia would takeover RAS completely in 2016 knowing there are still so many airports in east msia not capable of handling a320s and these type of flights are in no way profitable commercially.

Its same old buy new stuff and use em til it rot no renewal nor upkeep while the neighbours are not that stupid. 

Edited by jahur

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On 9/12/2022 at 10:58 AM, jahur said:

One thing i did notice overseas was the regional jet fares technically being slightly higher than the 320/737 counterpart throughout. Not sure if msia would be able to accept it or not knowing we are a very price sensitive market.

As for operational issue in SZB. New gen aircrafts are technically quiet and should not be a noise burden nowadays. Raya 767 757 and old days 727 were a lot more noisier and as of today they still have early 2am morning arrivals not forgetting RMAFs c130s and a400ms so doubt noise concerns is the issue. SZB is just being constrained to avoid cannibalizing part of KLIAs traffic hence the turboprops only while Raya operating as cargo were not affected.

FY/OD (prop) fares are a notch higher than the equivalent at KLIA for most part (comparing FY and MH, OD prop vs OD jet, not with AK). About Rm20-50 higher each way (at least in my experience). 

I thought SZB is strictly prop (RMAF etc are exempted) and KLIA is for jet services, although I maybe wrong (not for noise control but they didn't want to cannibalize KLIA traffic as you say).

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Looks like the controversially reconfigured -MXV has finally re-entered service this morning on a KL-TWU-KL rotation. Does anyone know what they ended up doing with the J class cabin/seats?

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10 hours ago, Tom/PER said:

Looks like the controversially reconfigured -MXV has finally re-entered service this morning on a KL-TWU-KL rotation. Does anyone know what they ended up doing with the J class cabin/seats?

J cabin fitted with 12 Safran z500 seats. KUL-TWU pure j customers do not necessarily take up 16 seats so unlikely anyone got downgraded. Though websites are still selling 16seats for other flights that mxv may fly to so its may be potential nightmare there. 

Also i am not sure if they have fixed the inseat power supply shortage though. MXV deployment was initially delayed as passengers seated on the Isle, window seat do not have charging capability for their portable devices as the vendor was unable to supply them on schedule with the current usb c global shortage. Guess in the end they still have to fly them. Passengers on the middle seat will have fast charging capability and all passengers on business class are unaffected.

Wireless IFE is working except some stuff still had to be done manually by the cabin crew as well. 

Edited by jahur

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