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Lion Air and NADI announced a JV - Malindo Air

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you have to respect the cheek of tony... i really hope they tell him to piss off.. more competition = better for customers.

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Although Pak Rusdi is a very quiet and unassuming man, I hope that deep inside, he is a very shrewd businessman who can smell a rat from a million miles.

 

KC Sim

 

Tony said this too : "Without doubt, we will compete against each other. I know what it takes for an airline to win,"

Doesn't need a sharp man to understand his intent....

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Also doesn't need rocket science to work out likely association between this proposed 'collaborative discussion' and fact that Air Asia share price has gone southward recently (refer Doc Naim's thread here: http://www.malaysian...showtopic=18220)

In fact, Tan Sri Red One would be somewhat negligent if he doesn't pursue this - may work, may not work, but at least there will be something to reply to if matter raised at next shareholders' AGM (more seriously, if at an EGM :)) The man has to do what his job description dictates

Actually, it's also quite decent of him to announce this proposal publicly - also could be part of the show

 

And in cold reality, there will be mergers of these industry giants - I think the term they normally use is 'enhancing investors value'

Think of all the merged airlines nowadays (ConTed, DeltAA, BAberia .....) - even forefather of MH/SQ, MSA was a combined entity of a few long forgotten airlines

 

In the pharmaceutical industry, the few dominant giants nowadays are all products of mergers

Call it collaboration, call it selling out to your competitor - it is how corporates prey and devour

And yes, the consumers will eventually pay - ever wonder why cost of medicines have sky rocketted well above inflation during last decade or two ?

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Should have named it Harimau Air ... since the Sumatran Tiger and Malayan Tiger is a unifying factor.

 

KC Sim

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Collaboration between AK and JT could only possible if include FD, and certain won’t be announced in public. TF could be fishing for strategic information and putting up an act for stock analysts.

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So what happens about TF talks after dinner with Pak Rusdi? Been very silent lately..

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Pak rusdi enjoyed a thosai with tf then told him to get lost! I wouldn't get involved with tf .... He has a great way of internal sabotage. He wants to be based in Indonesia, so just carry on then ..

Don't stop others from coming into KUL.. You can't have the best of both worlds

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Malindo - such a horrible name, definitely one for the uninitiated. Plus the name Malindo reminds me of a textile shop somewhere along Jalan Tuanku Abdul Rahman in downtown KL...pretty sure I've come across it before..

 

Malindo actually reminds me of a bully from primary school. His name is Malindo Bin Kassim. Here is his Facebook profile. http://www.facebook....alindo.mdkassim He has a sister back in school. Her name is Malinda Binti Kassim. Malindo is now an army based in Semporna, glad he put his fierceness into good use. I am not sure where is Malinda now.

 

The Indonesian is fond of the name Malindo, the airlines. Remember 'Maphilindo' of the Confrontation topic from our history book?

 

Also, the majority of popular Indonesian brands exported abroad rhymes with Malindo - Indomee, Indocafe etc.

 

On a more serious sense, I think the name Malindo befits - it sounded like 'Malaysia + Indonesia', 'lin_o' in the middle can be associated with Lion Air the parent company and it sounds bold. Plus the Indonesian can still get a piece of the failed Maphilindo in 1966.

 

Malaysia Indonesia Airways (MIA).

 

Na'a. The Malaysian Institute of Accountants (MIA) will be unhappy.

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Should have named it Harimau Air ... since the Sumatran Tiger and Malayan Tiger is a unifying factor.

 

KC Sim

 

Potentially a law suit will be filed by Temasek for having a similar name. :)

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Should have named it Harimau Air ... since the Sumatran Tiger and Malayan Tiger is a unifying factor.

 

KC Sim

 

Be careful when you mix languages....Water Tiger, Sea-Tiger, Amphibious Tiger, anyone?

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Flying Tigers! Are they still flying?

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Flying Tigers! Are they still flying?

 

Interestingly there are two kinds of Flying Tigers:

 

1. Flying Tigers during World War II where the American volunteers who helped the Chinese to defend Imperial Japanese Air Force

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Tigers

 

2. Flying Tigers Line (Cargo operator) - ceased operation in 1989 and merged into Federal Express

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Tiger_Line

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I cannot see how Temasek can sue an airline in Malaysia named Harimau Air just because it has one that is named Tiger Airways.

 

I did not see United Airlines from USA suing Etihad (which incidentally means United) or even United Airways from Bangladesh.

 

KC Sim

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OT : I always puzzle about the story where the name of 'Singapore' comes from. Apparently lions in nature only exist in Africa.... How true is the story of Parameswara seeing a lion in Singapore then ? :pardon:

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I cannot see how Temasek can sue an airline in Malaysia named Harimau Air just because it has one that is named Tiger Airways.

 

I did not see United Airlines from USA suing Etihad (which incidentally means United) or even United Airways from Bangladesh.

 

i guess it depends on companies. Apple is known to have sued everyone with the name or logo associated with Apple. Same as MacDonald's.

 

Just that the name Tiger and Lion or the likes of it in other languages have been used widely, almost became somewhat predictable.

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OT : I always puzzle about the story where the name of 'Singapore' comes from. Apparently lions in nature only exist in Africa.... How true is the story of Parameswara seeing a lion in Singapore then ? :pardon:

 

O/T It wasn't Parameswara who saw lion in Singapore, but a prince from Bintan (well, this is a folklore actually). But, Parameswara did stop at Singapore for a while, even thinking to start a new empire from there, but he was opposed by Siam which controlled the island back in 13th century. He eventually landed at Malacca and thus a new chapter of Nusantara history begins :) But, yep, I also cannot imagine the sight of lion in this region? Tiger? still logical, but lion?

 

i guess it depends on companies. Apple is known to have sued everyone with the name or logo associated with Apple. Same as MacDonald's.

 

Just that the name Tiger and Lion or the likes of it in other languages have been used widely, almost became somewhat predictable.

 

Surprisingly, Apple is 'free' to copy from everyone else, while everyone is having hard time with Apple...

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OT : I always puzzle about the story where the name of 'Singapore' comes from. Apparently lions in nature only exist in Africa.... How true is the story of Parameswara seeing a lion in Singapore then ? :pardon:

 

Sang Nila Utama landed on a beach at Temasek, and spotted a Singh who made donno. He uttered, "Singh ini berpura-pura" - "This Singh is pretending (not to see me)". Whence 'Singapura'. Sorry, severely O/T.

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btw y always keep talking about harimau/tiger? Lion in BM means "singa"

They were talking about Sumatran Tiger and Malayan Tiger...

 

 

O/T It wasn't Parameswara who saw lion in Singapore, but a prince from Bintan (well, this is a folklore actually). But, Parameswara did stop at Singapore for a while, even thinking to start a new empire from there, but he was opposed by Siam which controlled the island back in 13th century. He eventually landed at Malacca and thus a new chapter of Nusantara history begins :) But, yep, I also cannot imagine the sight of lion in this region? Tiger? still logical, but lion?

In The Images of Singapore museum in Sentosa, they explain to everyone that the prince saw a merlion, not a lion. Lion is from Africa, but how about merlion ? :lol:

 

 

Sang Nila Utama landed on a beach at Temasek, and spotted a Singh who made donno. He uttered, "Singh ini berpura-pura" - "This Singh is pretending (not to see me)". Whence 'Singapura'. Sorry, severely O/T.

LOL. Where did you get this story from ? It does make sense in a way though :D

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Actually not just Singapore, lion indeed is England's national animal (according to Wiki). Hence we can see lions in many England national symbols / emblems

 

Sorry OT

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