Airbus offers longer-range A330 with increased payload

[Yang Zulhilmi 0]

And better get 1-2-1 config for J class just like what WY did..:-)

[KK Lee 5]

If IGW A33E have similar pax capacity as 772, it will be like old wine in new bottle. If AJ is serious and can’t wait for A350 or 787, MH could opt for A332.

[flee 5]

I think that with the A333, MH has a better chance of upgrading the first and business class products.

 

With 240t MTOW, it can balance payload and fuel. Should not be a problem for MH to fly to AMS if it does not carry as much belly cargo, carrying more fuel instead. But to have good yields, it must have good first and business class products.

[Josh T 0]

There won't be a first class on the IGW A33Es. Also, the front cabin will only be able to accommodate 5 rows of the full flat-bed business class seats rather than the current 6 rows on the new A33Es.

[flee 5]

From Airbus website:

http://www.airbus.com/aircraftfamilies/passengeraircraft/a330family/a330-300/cabin-layout/

 

Perhaps we can have a premium economy cabin instead of standard...

[GYC 0]

I personally think that MAS should get 787 or A350 rather than the new IGW A330E...

[Amirul Mazlan 0]

IGW A330E is more like stop gap measure. Should have blamed themselves for all the messes they created, if not, they would have been on the list for 787 or A350 orders.

[Mohd Suhaimi Fariz 2]

IGW A330E is more like stop gap measure. Should have blamed themselves for all the messes they created, if not, they would have been on the list for 787 or A350 orders.

 

Blame the bloody government - their meddling really ruins things.

[KK Lee 5]

If MH find waiting time for 787 and A350 is too long, MH could always lease (e.g. from ILFC) while waiting. Not that MH has never lease before e.g. 738.

[flee 5]

If MH find waiting time for 787 and A350 is too long, MH could always lease (e.g. from ILFC) while waiting. Not that MH has never lease before e.g. 738.

Not sure if there are spare aircraft to lease! Most early deliveries should already be committed to lease customers. Then, there is the question of whether MH could get good lease rates on these aircraft, given that they are brand new designs.

[KK Lee 5]

Not sure if there are spare aircraft to lease! Most early deliveries should already be committed to lease customers. Then, there is the question of whether MH could get good lease rates on these aircraft, given that they are brand new designs.

 

 

Perhaps MH is waiting for 787NG or A350NG to order.

[flee 5]

Perhaps MH is waiting for 787NG or A350NG to order.

Problem with MH is that they do not have an aircraft lifecycle management policy. So they really don't know when to retire aircraft and when to buy new ones. Some would say that this is due to govt. interference in that everything requires cabinet approval. So their fleet renewal plans are usually very piecemeal.

[Izanee 0]

Flee, u may just have hit the nail on the head

[flee 5]

http://youtu.be/QBGyWsRr4n4

[flee 5]

FARNBOROUGH: Airbus secures first deal for higher weight A330

 

Aircraft lessor CIT Aerospace placed an order for five more A330s at the Farnborough air show today, including the first commitment for the newly launched longer-range A330.

 

The order takes to 10 the number of commitments for the A330 the lessor has placed this year. Five were ordered earlier this year in conjunction with the cancellation of orders for four A320s and the exercise of an aircraft purchase option.

 

Deliveries are scheduled to begin in 2014.

 

Source: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/farnborough-airbus-secures-first-deal-for-higher-weight-a330-374232/

[JuliusWong 0]

A330 IGW has garnered first order from Franborough . Maybe MH can lease from the leasing company. Be it B787 or A350....MH is late for both parties.

 

They can actually refurbish the B777-200ER fleet as they are not that old to be retired. Just a cabin refurbishment will suffice. Bring on more A330-300, then A330 IGW. Order either A350 or B787 at the same time.....There is a huge gap in between A330 and A380 if they do not order either one of them.

[Josh T 0]

It's looking more likely that MH may end up converting the 10 options for the A33E into firm orders for the IGW version.

[flee 5]

A330 IGW has garnered first order from Franborough . Maybe MH can lease from the leasing company. Be it B787 or A350....MH is late for both parties.

 

They can actually refurbish the B777-200ER fleet as they are not that old to be retired. Just a cabin refurbishment will suffice. Bring on more A330-300, then A330 IGW. Order either A350 or B787 at the same time.....There is a huge gap in between A330 and A380 if they do not order either one of them.

Yes, that should be the way to go. MH's fleet decisions may look something like this:

1. Consider ordering 2-3 more ATR72-600s for Firefly expansion
   
2. Retire the early build A330s (already started)
   
3. Slot in the new A330 deliveries for as many routes as it can fly (many B772 routes are now flown by A333s)
   
4. Change aircraft seating and crew configuration for long haul operations - depending on how many aircraft is needed for long haul (existing A333s are configured for regional flights only)
   
5. Change the order for the A333s to the IGW version, if deliveries are later than the 2015 dates
   
6. Take up all the options for more A333s IGW
   
7. Look at the routes where the A333 IGWs can't operate and decide on how many of the old B772s will be needed to fly those extra long haul routes - then refurbish these aircraft with the latest cabins
   
8. Order either B787 or A350 for deliveries 2017 and beyond. By then, airline may need it for growth and also to replace the by then ageing B772s. Later deliveries will be to replace the A333s, which will be over 10 or 15 years old.
   
9. Consider top up order for A380s (enhanced version), if the A380s are doing well on their routes.
   
10. Take another look at the short haul fleet - B738 replacements will be needed, post 2025
    

[CH Teo 0]

Yes, that should be the way to go. MH's fleet decisions may look something like this:

 

1. Consider ordering 2-3 more ATR72-600s for Firefly expansion.

 

--- MASwings may need some more ATR 72-600 also...

 

10. Take another look at the short haul fleet - B738 replacements will be needed, post 2025

 

--- Wow, fast forward thinking,....

 

[flee 5]

Higher-weight A330 not intended as A350-800 substitute

 

Airbus insists that the higher-weight A330 will not evolve into a substitute for the A350-800, reiterating that it still intends to develop the shrink variant of its new twinjet family.

 

Chief operating officer for customers John Leahy stresses that there is "not even an internal review" over the -800's future, although he says slot constraints on the A350 programme are directing the airframer to prioritise sales of the higher-value -900.

 

Airbus will tweak the A330 family to raise the maximum take-off weight to 240t, giving a consequent increase in range, and is pitching entry into service for 2015, a year earlier than the A350-800.

 

Lessor CIT has become the first to commit to the improved A330, which will benefit from A350 aerodynamics. The company had previously been an A350-800 customer, with an order for five, but abandoned it in favour of the larger -900. Leahy says CIT is a strong A330 customer and its decision to take the higher-weight type is unconnected to the A350 switch. He says the modified A330 and the A350 will serve "different markets".

 

The new A330-300, the first variant to undergo the change, will have a range of 5,950nm (11,000km). That of the A350-800 - which will have a maximum take-off weight of 248t - is intended to be about 8,500nm. Qatar Airways is one of the primary customers of the -800, accounting for 20 of the 118 on order, and is unconvinced Airbus wants to retain the programme.

 

Chief executive Akbar Al Baker believes the airframer is quietly trying to shelve the -800. "Officially they are telling us they are still going to make that aircraft," he says. "We don't know."

 

He says the carrier's commitment to the type depends on its capability. "If it is not head and shoulders above the [boeing] 787-8, then we will have to reconsider. In our contract with Airbus we can swap our A350 orders between the -800 and -900."

 

Qatar has ordered 40 A350-900s and Al Baker says he is expecting the first in mid-2014, adding that this amounts to a six- or seven-month delay to contractual delivery dates.

 

"We had been expecting that slip and we had already built a buffer into our preparations," he says. "We realise that it is heavier than in our contract with them, but there are ways around this and we are talking to Airbus about how to resolve this."

 

Source: http://www.flightglo...stitute-374578/

[Isaac 0]

Higher-weight A330 not intended as A350-800 substitute

 

The new A330-300, the first variant to undergo the change, will have a range of 5,950nm (11,000km).

With a range of only 11,000km, can the new 333 fly between KUL and Europe year-round ? May not be so wise to order the new 333 to replace their 772 now. They should just order the 787 or 350 as their 772 replacement and while waiting for the new planes, it's better to invest some money to refurbish their 772 with new seats.

[flee 5]

Should be OK if MH 70-75% normal load factor still applies on those flights. However, they may need to restrict belly cargo if flights are full.

[flee 5]

AirAsia X May Return to Europe With Upgraded A330 Planes

 

AirAsia X Sdn., the long-haul arm of Asia’s biggest discount carrier, said a planned order for Airbus SAS’s revamped A330 may let it revive European routes that were unsuccessful with older planes.

 

“Europe would be much more accessible” with the new aircraft, Chief Executive Officer Azran Osman Rani said in an interview in Sydney yesterday. He declined to say how many A330s the Malaysian carrier will order or when European flights could resume.

 

The new A330 may be profitable on European services because of its better fuel efficiency and greater capacity, Azran said. The budget carrier ended services to the continent earlier this year because of fuel costs, slowing demand and the introduction of a carbon-emissions levy.

 

Airbus announced plans to update the twin-engine A330 earlier this month to help compete with Boeing’s 787 and 777 aircraft. The new plane, due to enter service in 2015, will use technologies from the A350 to increase its range and capacity.

 

AirAsia X, which is focusing services on Asia and Australia, also plans to sell a stake of about 25 percent to 30 percent in an initial public offering, Azran said. AirAsia Bhd. and other existing shareholders’ stakes will be diluted in the sale, he said. AirAsia Bhd. (AIRA) has no plans to sell its entire 18.5 percent holding, he said.

 

The timing of the offering will depend on the appetite in the Malaysian share market, where several large IPOs are expected, he said.

 

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-26/airasia-x-may-return-to-europe-with-upgraded-a330-planes.html

[S V Choong 4]

A350 is just virtual planes at the moment. Their actual performance is unknown as this stage.

[KK Lee 5]

A350 is just virtual planes at the moment. Their actual performance is unknown as this stage.

 

Exact performance may be unknown but should be more or less as per design.