MH002 lost an engine

[V Wong 0]

Can someone verify this? http://www.rockybru.com.my/2012/04/mh-002-lost-engine-and-best-cabin-crew.html

 

If true, coming at the heels of Bengalore incident, needs some kind of safety review?

[Raymund Yeoh 1]

looks like MH caught the QF "bug".......

[Radzi 2]

"The Captain took too long to make the announcement about the engine failure ......"

 

I wonder how long, and does Rocky remember that the pilot have to keep the aircraft flying first, and only talk when everything has been stabilized?

[KC Sim 2]

I fully agree that the Captain and the pilots' primary function in such a situation is to safely fly the plane and leave the cabin attendants to ensure that passengers are briefed and where necessary, perhaps even rehearse the use of emergency gears and brace positions.

 

I am certain that the cockpit crew and the cabin crew are in communication and the latter make the call on what to say to the passengers.

 

Kudos to all the crew members in the cockpit and in the cabin for safely bringing back MH002 to KLIA. This is the true test of their professionalism and they have made a good account of themselves and of Malaysia Airlines. Does anyone know which aircraft was involved in the incident?

 

Perhaps it is also time for MAS to seriously consider looking at replacement for the B744 fleet ... not just with the A380s but perhaps something of the right size. And if an order takes too long to fulfill, perhaps a lease should be considered.

 

 

KC Sim

[Mushrif A 3]

"The Captain took too long to make the announcement about the engine failure ......"

 

[...] how long [...]?

 

"Ladies and gentlemen, as most of you near the window seats would have realised by now, we have just parked back at the gate that we had left from earlier...due to an engine failure"...

[Mohd Suhaimi Fariz 2]

VS had an emergency landing in LGW & MH had this - is there something in the air going on?

[M. Sofian H. 0]

MAS flight disrupted due to engine problems

 

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SEPANG: A London-bound Malaysia Airlines flight was delayed early today after one of its engines caught fire after take-off.

 

Picture credit to http://airline-news.blogspot.com/.

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The flight, MH2, took off from the Kuala Lumpur International Airport at 12.10am after a 30-minute delay.

It is understood that the flight then circled KLIA for about 90 minutes before it landed again after developing engine problems.

Passengers were told to disembark until further notice.

Unconfirmed reports stated that one of its engines caught fire.

At Press time, there has been no news on flight MH2 or when it will be ready for departure.

MAS is expected to issue a statement by noon.

 

Pesawat MAS ke London dibatalkan selepas enjin terbakar

 

2012/04/17

 

SEPANG: Pesawat Penerbangan Malaysia (MAS) yang dijadualkan berlepas ke London dibatalkan awal pagi tadi selepas salah satu enjinnya terbakar selepas berlepas.

 

Pesawat MH2, berlepas dari Lapangan Terbang Antarabangsa Kuala Lumpur (KLIA) pada kira-kira jam 12.10 malam selepas penerbangan lewat kira-kira 30 minit.

 

Difahamkan pesawat itu berlegar-legar di sekitar KLIA kira-kira 90 minit sebelum mendarat semula selepas mengalami masalah enjin.

 

Setakat ini, tiada maklumat mengenai pesawat berkenaan atau bila ia akan sedia untuk berlepas.

 

MAS dijangka mengeluarkan kenyataan tengah hari nanti.

[Teoh Z Yao 0]

Dependable MH crews! Kudos to them!

[Ahmad M 1]

1. Engine Fail/Fire !

2. Aviate

Navigate

Communicate

3. Carry out abnormal checklist ( 1 engine fail is not even an emergency on the 744).

4. CRM and Decision- Return, Diversion, Continue etc

5. Inform and liase with ATC

6. Performance calculations- Landing speeds, distance etc

7. Set up the FMC for arrival

8. Approach briefing

9. Fuel dumping if required

10. Along the way inform cabin crew (nature of failure, time to land etc)

11. Inform pax (PA).

 

Make the announcement too early and someone will probably complain why the hell the crew are not doing their duties!

 

[Mike P 0]

In fact they could still fly even losing one engine.. just not that fast enough to reach the destination.

[Cire 0]

Yup, there are various procedures to follow in such circumstances. Verify and counter-verify. When all check-list are exhausted, the flying pilot will make the decision and then announcement. Unless of course the plane is in grave danger, everyone would have been informed to braced for eventuality.

 

Cool headed. Kudos.

[Phil M. 0]

Any idea how long it takes to dump fuel ?Before it can land safely!

[JingKai Seah 0]

Can some experts explain why do they need to dump fuel to land safely? can't they just land without an empty fueltank?

[Pieter C. 5]

Can some experts explain why do they need to dump fuel to land safely? can't they just land without an empty fueltank?

 

Aircraft will be (structural) overweight for landing, with all this fuel onboard; therefor, needs to dump/get wrid off this first before landing ...

[JingKai Seah 0]

Thats Pieter

 

Erm.. just curious.. if they dump the fuel while airborne... wouldn't the dumped fuel rain down on the ground and sort of pollutes the air and caused fuel rain (if there's such a thing o.o?)?

[S M Tang 0]

Jet fuel is very volatile. From such a high altitude, the fuel will probably evaporate before it reaches the ground. Also, fuel dumping is not allowed over populated area and only over the sea if I'm not mistaken.

[JingKai Seah 0]

Thanks! We learn something every minute

Edited April 17, 2012 by JingKai Seah

[zamim 0]

Carry out abnormal checklist ( 1 engine fail is not even an emergency on the 744).

 

1 Eng failure is not an emergency but if the ENG is shut down due to fire or severe damage, then it is an emergency. The procedure in the check list is different.

 

Can some experts explain why do they need to dump fuel to land safely? can't they just land without an empty fueltank?

 

Crew has to dump fuel to land the aircraft within specific maximum landing weight, otherwise, overweight landing inspection must be carried out. Only in dire emergency such as if engine fire is uncontrollable, then crew is allowed to land as soon as possible even with max takeoff weight. In this instance, the crew had secured the engine since the fire was put out and the emergency has been downgraded to precautionary measures.

 

Jet fuel is very volatile. From such a high altitude, the fuel will probably evaporate before it reaches the ground. Also, fuel dumping is not allowed over populated area and only over the sea if I'm not mistaken.

 

Basically, you are right. Over populated areas, minimum height for fuel dumping is 6000 ft and away from clouds. Fuel will vaporize before it reaches the ground. Usually the crew will dump fuel over the sea

[BC Tam 2]

I understand the process of getting 'stranded' pax in London unto next/alternative flight was rather ...... well, could have been better organized

[Raymund Yeoh 1]

Was travelling from SZB to customer today n saw B744 "Kota Bahru" (if my eyesight read it properly) parked outside MH engineering hangar. Dunno if it was this plane

[Cheng Kit 0]

Also happened on SIA A380 flight from Singapore - Frankfurt - New York flight last month when crew reported a surge in one of its four engines.

Edited April 18, 2012 by Cheng Kit

[T. AHMAD 0]

Was travelling from SZB to customer today n saw B744 "Kota Bahru" (if my eyesight read it properly) parked outside MH engineering hangar. Dunno if it was this plane

 

MPM melaka

[flee 5]

KUALA LUMPUR, April 18 (Bernama) -- Malaysia Airlines has launched a full investigation into the technical incident that affected one of the engines of the B747-400 aircraft together with the engine manufacturer, says Group Chief Executive Officer Ahmad Jauhari Yahya.

 

On April 16, Malaysia Airlines flight MH002 from the KL International Airport (KLIA) to London experienced technical glitch which resulted in a turn-back and subsequent delay in departure until the next day.

 

In a statement, Ahmad Jauhari said its team, from the crew that operated the flight to the ground personnel and the other agencies at KLIA worked in clockwork precision to ensure the safety, emotional well-being and comfort of the passengers affected by the incident.

 

"The management team and I salute our operating crew of MH002 as heroes for their diligence during these testing moments. They discharged their duties efficiently and were reassuring to our passengers after the decision was made to abort the journey to London.

 

"They activated all necessary procedures, both operational and to provide emotional comfort, during the critical duration when the flight had to return to KLIA. These are natural traits of our team to treat all customers as our guests," he said.

[zamim 0]

Typical press statement which mean nothing much. The crew members are trained to handle these situations, especially on a jumbo with 3 other engines running. I have gone through a few times during my career with less engine running. It is part and parcel of being crew members.

[flee 5]

KUALA LUMPUR, April 19 (Bernama) -- Malaysia Airlines (MAS) has asked all parties to exercise caution and refrain from using speculative opinions to comment on Monday's incident as it interferes with investigation processes and causes unnecessary alarm among stakeholders.

 

The national carrier was referring to a local print media report today stating that investigations on the technical glitch involving flight MH002 on that day "should not rule out sabotage as a likely cause".

 

"As investigations are ongoing, MAS will not comment on such views," said Group Chief Executive Officer Ahmad Jauhari Yahya in a statement Thursday.

 

Ahmad Jauhari stressed that safety was a core value in MAS and the focus was always on ensuring safe operations in all aspects of the business.

 

"This is significant as the commercial aviation industry is highly regulated and airlines must always comply to the authorities' stringent safety requirements to operate flights," he said.

 

Ahmad Jauhari said MAS operates an average of 280 flights daily, using 89 aircraft.

 

"We also strive to ensure safety and on-time departures and landings, he said."

 

Nevertheless, he said, like other operators, it was possible that on some occasions flight operations are challenged by factors like technical glitches, flight diversions due to bad weather, airport congestion and maintenance defects.

 

Ahmad Jauhari said MAS has an excellent team with expertise in all aspects of flight operations to manage such situations in the passengers' best interest.

 

He said MAS' employees are professionals with core safety values ingrained and retrained throughout their career in the company.

 

"It is through this strength that MAS stands out in operational excellence like on-time performance, safe flight operations and swift service recovery measures to minimise customer inconvenience during the rare occasions of flight disruptions," he said.

 

In the event of technical incidents that could potentially impact the safety of flight operations, he said MAS works together with the relevant authorities to investigate and establish the causes and also initiate recommended remedial actions.

 

"We are determined and always committed to our safe flight operations processes at all times," he added.