kandiah k 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2011 Just browsed through some information on MH and found this network updates for your reading and discussion pleasure. S00: Malaysia Airlines International Network by JL The following is Malaysia Airlines’ International Network in Summer 2000, taken from OAG – Worldwide Edition – Aug 2000. Route Freq (Wk) & A/C Remark Kuala Lumpur – Adelaide 2 772 Kuala Lumpur – Amsterdam 7 772 Kuala Lumpur – Auckland 7 772 Kuala Lumpur – Bandar Seri Begawan 3 734 Kuala Lumpur – Bangkok 12 772 2 734 Kuala Lumpur – Beijing 5 330 Kuala Lumpur – Beirut – Cairo 2 744 Kuala Lumpur – Brisbane 7 772 Kuala Lumpur – Chennai 6 330 Kuala Lumpur – Chiang Mai 2 734 Kuala Lumpur – Darwin – Cairns 2 330 Kuala Lumpur – Delhi 2 330 Kuala Lumpur – Denpasar 8 330 1 772 1 734 Kuala Lumpur – Dhaka 3 330 Kuala Lumpur – Dubai – Beirut 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Dubai – Istanbul 2 330 Kuala Lumpur – Dubai – Newark 3 772 Kuala Lumpur – Frankfurt 5 744 Kuala Lumpur – Fukuoka 2 330 Kuala Lumpur – Guangzhou 3 330 Kuala Lumpur – Hanoi 2 734 Kuala Lumpur – Hat Yai 3 734 Kuala Lumpur – Ho Chi Minh 4 734 Kuala Lumpur – Hong Kong 7 744 Kuala Lumpur – Jakarta 4 330 10 734 Kuala Lumpur – Jeddah 2 744 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Johannesburg – Cape Town 2 74E Kuala Lumpur – Johannesburg – Cape Town – Buenos Aires 2 74E Kuala Lumpur – Karachi – Dubai 2 330 Kuala Lumpur – London Heathrow 14 744 Kuala Lumpur – Male 2 330 Kuala Lumpur – Manchester 3 744 Kuala Lumpur – Manila 3 734 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Medan 9 734 Kuala Lumpur – Melbourne – Adelaide 2 744 Kuala Lumpur – Melbourne – Sydney 3 744 Kuala Lumpur – Nagoya 2 330 Kuala Lumpur – Nagoya – Penang – Kuala Lumpur 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Osaka 2 330 Kuala Lumpur – Osaka – Langkawi – Kuala Lumpur 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Osaka – Penang – Kuala Lumpur 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Paris CDG 3 744 Kuala Lumpur – Perth 13 772 Kuala Lumpur – Phnom Penh 5 734 Kuala Lumpur – Phuket 9 734 Kuala Lumpur – Rome 3 772 Kuala Lumpur – Seoul 3 330 Kuala Lumpur – Shanghai 3 772 Kuala Lumpur – Singapore 70 734 2 735 10 330 1 772 Kuala Lumpur – Surabaya 10 734 Kuala Lumpur – Sydney 4 744 Kuala Lumpur – Sydney – Melbourne – Kuala Lumpur 6 744 Kuala Lumpur – Taipei 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Taipei – Langkawi – Kuala Lumpur 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Taipei – Los Angeles 4 744 Kuala Lumpur – Tokyo Narita 2 744 1 74E Kuala Lumpur – Tokyo Narita – Los Angeles 3 744 Kuala Lumpur – Tokyo Narita – Penang – Kuala Lumpur 2 772 Kuala Lumpur – Vienna – Munich 2 772 Kuala Lumpur – Vienna – Zagreb 2 772 Kuala Lumpur – Xiamen 2 734 Kuala Lumpur – Yangon 2 734 Kuala Lumpur – Zurich 4 772 Kuala Lumpur – Johor Bahru – Surabaya 3 734 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Cebu 2 734 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Hong Kong 1 734 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Kaohsiung 7 734 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Manila 2 734 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Seoul 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Taipei 4 330 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Tokyo Narita 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Kuching – Kota Kinabalu – Hong Kong 3 734 Kuala Lumpur – Kuching – Manila 2 734 Kuala Lumpur – Kuching – Perth 1 772 Kuala Lumpur – Penang – Chennai – Kuala Lumpur 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Penang – Hong Kong 2 74E Kota Kinabalu – Bandar Seri Begawan 3 F50 3 734 Kota Kinabalu – Labuan – Bandar Seri Begawan 1 F50 Kota Kinabalu – Singapore 7 734 Kuching – Bandar Seri Begawan 3 F50 Kuching – Pontianak 4 F50 Kuching – Singapore 14 734 Langkawi – Phuket 3 734 Langkawi – Singapore 3 735 Penang – Medan 9 734 Penang – Phuket 3 734 Penang – Singapore 21 734 Tawau – Tarakan 3 DHT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2011 (edited) Nowadays......Suspension of routes, not taking into account addition and reduction of flights. Route Freq (Wk) & A/C Remark Kuala Lumpur – Adelaide 2 772 Kuala Lumpur – Amsterdam 7 772 Kuala Lumpur – Auckland 7 772 Kuala Lumpur – Bandar Seri Begawan 3 734 Kuala Lumpur – Bangkok 12 772 2 734 Kuala Lumpur – Beijing 5 330 Kuala Lumpur – Beirut – Cairo 2 744 Beirut and Cairo-discontinued Kuala Lumpur – Brisbane 7 772 Kuala Lumpur – Chennai 6 330 Kuala Lumpur – Chiang Mai 2 734 Kuala Lumpur – Darwin – Cairns 2 330 Kuala Lumpur – Delhi 2 330 Kuala Lumpur – Denpasar 8 330 1 772 1 734 Kuala Lumpur – Dhaka 3 330 Kuala Lumpur – Dubai – Beirut 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Dubai – Istanbul 2 330 Re-route as KUL-IST direct flight, new KUL- DMM & KUL-DXB-DMM, Beirut discontinued Kuala Lumpur – Dubai – Newark 3 772 Kuala Lumpur – Frankfurt 5 744 Kuala Lumpur – Fukuoka 2 330 Kuala Lumpur – Guangzhou 3 330 Kuala Lumpur – Hanoi 2 734 Kuala Lumpur – Hat Yai 3 734 Kuala Lumpur – Ho Chi Minh 4 734 Kuala Lumpur – Hong Kong 7 744 Kuala Lumpur – Jakarta 4 330 10 734 Kuala Lumpur – Jeddah 2 744 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Johannesburg – Cape Town 2 74E Kuala Lumpur – Johannesburg – Cape Town – Buenos Aires 2 74E Now KUL-JNB and KUL-CPT-EZE Kuala Lumpur – Karachi – Dubai 2 330 All direct flight now to KHI and DXB Kuala Lumpur – London Heathrow 14 744 Kuala Lumpur – Male 2 330 Kuala Lumpur – Manchester 3 744 Kuala Lumpur – Manila 3 734 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Medan 9 734 Kuala Lumpur – Melbourne – Adelaide 2 744 Kuala Lumpur – Melbourne – Sydney 3 744 Kuala Lumpur – Nagoya 2 330 Kuala Lumpur – Nagoya – Penang – Kuala Lumpur 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Osaka 2 330 Kuala Lumpur – Osaka – Langkawi – Kuala Lumpur 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Osaka – Penang – Kuala Lumpur 1 330Now KUL-KIX and BKI-KIX Kuala Lumpur – Paris CDG 3 744 Kuala Lumpur – Perth 13 772 Kuala Lumpur – Phnom Penh 5 734 Kuala Lumpur – Phuket 9 734 Kuala Lumpur – Rome 3 772 Kuala Lumpur – Seoul 3 330 Kuala Lumpur – Shanghai 3 772 Kuala Lumpur – Singapore 70 734 2 735 10 330 1 772 Now all B738 or B734 Kuala Lumpur – Surabaya 10 734 Kuala Lumpur – Sydney 4 744 Kuala Lumpur – Sydney – Melbourne – Kuala Lumpur 6 744 Kuala Lumpur – Taipei 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Taipei – Langkawi – Kuala Lumpur 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Taipei – Los Angeles 4 744 Kuala Lumpur – Tokyo Narita 2 744 1 74E Kuala Lumpur – Tokyo Narita – Los Angeles 3 744 Kuala Lumpur – Tokyo Narita – Penang – Kuala Lumpur 2 772 Kuala Lumpur – Vienna – Munich 2 772 Kuala Lumpur – Vienna – Zagreb 2 772 Kuala Lumpur – Xiamen 2 734 Kuala Lumpur – Yangon 2 734 Kuala Lumpur – Zurich 4 772 Kuala Lumpur – Johor Bahru – Surabaya 3 734 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Cebu 2 734 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Hong Kong 1 734 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Kaohsiung 7 734 status?? Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Manila 2 734 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Seoul 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Taipei 4 330 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Tokyo Narita 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Kuching – Kota Kinabalu – Hong Kong 3 734 Kuala Lumpur – Kuching – Manila 2 734 Kuala Lumpur – Kuching – Perth 1 772 Kuala Lumpur – Penang – Chennai – Kuala Lumpur 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Penang – Hong Kong 2 74E Kota Kinabalu – Bandar Seri Begawan 3 F50 3 734 Kota Kinabalu – Labuan – Bandar Seri Begawan 1 F50 Kota Kinabalu – Singapore 7 734 Kuching – Bandar Seri Begawan 3 F50 Kuching – Pontianak 4 F50 Kuching – Singapore 14 734 Langkawi – Phuket 3 734 Langkawi – Singapore 3 735 Penang – Medan 9 734 Penang – Phuket 3 734 Penang – Singapore 21 734 Tawau – Tarakan 3 DHT Boy, took some time to do this....but am free. Edited October 29, 2011 by JuliusWong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johan Z 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2011 Is 74E a Combi? Didn't know MH ever operated a Combi before. Some routes also received more frequency now than back then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2011 Is 74E a Combi? Didn't know MH ever operated a Combi before. Some routes also received more frequency now than back then. Yes, they did. MH first two B744 (9M-MHL and 9M-MHM) was powered by GE as opposed to current PWs. Both are delievered in 1989, making MH one of the pioneer B744 operators at that time. Both are retired quickly after 2001 restructuring exercise. Now hauling cargo around the world with Kalitta Air. MHL became N741CK and MHM became N740CK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike P 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2011 I remember once KUL - SYD - KCH - KUL route once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CH Teo 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2011 Many routes are being strike off already...what a difference after 11 years... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Suhaimi Fariz 2 Report post Posted October 29, 2011 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Kaohsiung 7 734 status?? Gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted October 29, 2011 Is 74E a Combi? Didn't know MH ever operated a Combi before. MH's sole 747-3H6 was a combi, as were the first two 747-4H6 as noted by Julius Wonder why manufacturers don't offer -combi variants nowadays anymore ? Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Cebu 2 734 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Hong Kong 1 734 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Kaohsiung 7 734 status?? Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Manila 2 734 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Seoul 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Taipei 4 330 Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Tokyo Narita 1 330 Kuala Lumpur – Kuching – Kota Kinabalu – Hong Kong 3 734 all history ! Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Cebu 2 734 Gone ! Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Hong Kong 1 734 now KCH-BKI-HKG vv Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Kaohsiung 7 734 Gone ! Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Manila 2 734 1 330 Gone ! Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Seoul 1 330 now BKI-ICN Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Taipei 4 330 now BKI-TPE Kuala Lumpur – Kota Kinabalu – Tokyo Narita 1 330 now BKI-HND, reverting to BKI-NRT soon apparently Kuala Lumpur – Kuching – Kota Kinabalu – Hong Kong 3 734 Gone, see above Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2011 (edited) MH's sole 747-3H6 was a combi, as were the first two 747-4H6 as noted by Julius Wonder why manufacturers don't offer -combi variants nowadays anymore ? If I am not mistaken after the South African Airways Flight 295 (The Helderberg) in 1987, FAA of US imposed new ruling on how Combi should be used by airlines and how to combat fire should there be one. They even set new rules for aircraft manufactuers to adhere to new manufacturing standard thus driving up the cost of operating such Combi. B747 was the lsat aircraft to be designed with Combi configuration as far as I know, Boeing offered the configuration up till 2002. There aren't many Combi operator left KLM, KE, and Eva come to mind. These three are cargo heavyweight airlines, therefore can afford. Wa lao wea....did MH closed down BKI during the WAU exercise...O.O. (sorry, was sitting for exam when it happened, not sure of details) Edited October 29, 2011 by JuliusWong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sanjay Thaker 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2011 LGK seems to be one of the biggest losers after all these years. What an eye opener. I could barely remember some of those routes. Thanks Kandiah! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KS Ong 1 Report post Posted October 29, 2011 Kota Kinabalu – Labuan – Bandar Seri Begawan 1 F50 This too was a sacrifice. Until now MASwings tried but to no avail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johan Z 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2011 Under Dr M, he wanted to boost tourism in LGK by routing MH flights through this island. Unfortunately for MH, this never worked as evident by all LGK tag on are now gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike P 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2011 Too bad Langkawi tourism just couldn't do as good as Phuket and Bali. Though liquor is basically cheap in Langkawi and yet no bars are available there which obviously many foreigners like to hang out in bar at night. This also has made the island a dead island at night because the activities at night is very scarce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dean hizudy 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2011 There was also LGK-LHR by MAS few years ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheng Long 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2011 There was also LGK-LHR by MAS few years ago Yes. And there were usually like one or two people who actually stopped at LGK when they transit there.. The route really didn't have much potential.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neilson 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2011 There was also LGK-LHR by MAS few years ago and i still remember it still got PEN-LHR.. some of the people said, after build the KLIA, MAS was ordered by the government all the flight should take off from KLIA to boost the traffic in there, if not KLIA will become a big white elephant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted October 30, 2011 Sorry for being pedantic, but never was any PEN-LHR nor LGK-LHR (non stop) I believe the services were of the KUL-LHR-PEN-KUL and KUL-LHR-LGK-KUL loops Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike P 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2011 Sorry for being pedantic, but never was any PEN-LHR nor LGK-LHR (non stop) I believe the services were of the KUL-LHR-PEN-KUL and KUL-LHR-LGK-KUL loops It could be KUL - PEN - LHR - PEN - KUL, but MH has been cutting back the stopover point from KUL due to poor load factor. This used to affect KUL - KCH - SYD - KCH - KUL and KUL - BKI - KIX - BKI - KUL, which later MH cut the departure and make it arrival on KCH from SYD and BKI from KIX. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Firdaus Bolong 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2011 MH 2625 BKI-LBU-MYY-KCH-KUL Remember this flight?always wanted to take this flight but never materialised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2011 MH 2625 BKI-LBU-MYY-KCH-KUL Remember this flight?always wanted to take this flight but never materialised. wa lao....thats one long sector....O.O Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted October 30, 2011 It could be KUL - PEN - LHR - PEN - KUL, but MH has been cutting back the stopover point from KUL due to poor load factor. This used to affect KUL - KCH - SYD - KCH - KUL and KUL - BKI - KIX - BKI - KUL, which later MH cut the departure and make it arrival on KCH from SYD and BKI from KIX. The flights linking LHR with PEN or LGK were only in one direction - only in the Inbound. This was during the time when MH was doing up to 3x a day to LHR. MH 2625 BKI-LBU-MYY-KCH-KUL Remember this flight?always wanted to take this flight but never materialised. The "outbound" MH2610 was longer. Started at PEN. Routing was PEN-KUL-KCH-MYY-LBU-BKI - same aircraft all the way. However, I dont believe that aircraft did a turnaround at BKI to do MH2625 - it was operated by another aircraft. Also, I'm not sure if that flight continued on to PEN after KUL. Kuala Lumpur – Karachi – Dubai 2 330 All direct flight now to KHI and DXB Boy, took some time to do this....but am free. Not all DXB flights are direct. I believe the flights via KHI are still there till today. MH160-161 I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kandiah k 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2011 It could be KUL - PEN - LHR - PEN - KUL, but MH has been cutting back the stopover point from KUL due to poor load factor. This used to affect KUL - KCH - SYD - KCH - KUL and KUL - BKI - KIX - BKI - KUL, which later MH cut the departure and make it arrival on KCH from SYD and BKI from KIX. The route was always departing from KUL direct to LHR and the return flights were either PEN or LGK before its final stop in KUL; in 2003 at least. I was on the LHR-LGK-KUL and there were a mere 20 pax who got off and a whole set of crew for LGK-KUL came in to replace the LHR-KUL sector on a B744. Short runway and scary landing indeed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert 0 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 The route was always departing from KUL direct to LHR and the return flights were either PEN or LGK before its final stop in KUL; in 2003 at least. I was on the LHR-LGK-KUL and there were a mere 20 pax who got off and a whole set of crew for LGK-KUL came in to replace the LHR-KUL sector on a B744. Short runway and scary landing indeed The runway is almost 4000m so its far from short LGK-HKT was a short trip, wonder what the flying time was Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CH Teo 0 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 One interesting question to ask, what happened to the capacities after all those routing being chopped off?? Never know that MH did have a such long arrangement for domestic operation for MH 2610 and MH 2625... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waiping 12 Report post Posted October 31, 2011 Maybe they should have thought about mounting HEL - LGK - KUL vv... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
