Shahridan Aziz 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2011 Yet another delay. Kesian... which one? Pity those who were stranded last week at Jeddah for the Penang flight. Our flight (MH8237-) was on schedule and I saw tears from some of the Pilgrims when they saw us boarding the bus at Madinatul Hujjaj for our departure to the airport. They were on standby with bags on their side for more than 24hrs. By the way i think we are the only KT (46C) that has to do a transit stopover at KCH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nik H. 3 Report post Posted December 1, 2011 Kesian... which one? Pity those who were stranded last week at Jeddah for the Penang flight. Our flight (MH8237-) was on schedule and I saw tears from some of the Pilgrims when they saw us boarding the bus at Madinatul Hujjaj for our departure to the airport. They were on standby with bags on their side for more than 24hrs. By the way i think we are the only KT (46C) that has to do a transit stopover at KCH. May those who played a role in all this rot in hell. This years' delay is more than all the delays put together in the past 7 years when it was under my watch. The Haj can never be run efficiently when it depends on a process-driven operation. There must always be someone who is Responsible to do it, Authorised to run it, and Accountable for it. There will always be delays that are unavoidable, but its the corrective actions that follows that makes a difference between a slipshod and a well run operation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted December 1, 2011 By the way i think we are the only KT (46C) that has to do a transit stopover at KCH. You mean you did JED-KCH-TGG ?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shahridan Aziz 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2011 You mean you did JED-KCH-TGG ?! nope... I did JED-KCH-KUL... nothing compared during my arrival because after KUL-KCH-JED, we have to endured Jeddah to Madinah using an old style bus (baggage on the roof) with non adjustable seats. An additional 8 hours on the road after the 10 hours flight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted December 2, 2011 ..... after KUL-KCH-JED, we have to endured Jeddah to Madinah using an old style bus (baggage on the roof) with non adjustable seats. An additional 8 hours on the road after the 10 hours flight. Salute to you Tuan Haji You going to follow up with a trip report ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zamim 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2011 There was another long delay in when MPD (yes MPD again, 3rd time) had a flap damage.Your replacement VP and appointed SM are at lost when dealing with the delays. When suggested for a rescue aircraft,both Charter and Tabung Haji rejected.Total delay for 2nd incident was more than 60 hrs. Anyway, Your lady Controller had left and joined another dept in KLIA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norman 1 Report post Posted December 3, 2011 Masya'Allah... my 6hrs delay last year on SV is nothing compared to this, syukur .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Timothy 1 Report post Posted December 5, 2011 Firstly I admit ignorance on my part and offer my apologies if this question is crude/ill mannered. However I've been curious about : 1) How much these Haj flights cost to the passenger 2) Are the planes reconfigured to an all economy seating ? If not how will Tabung Haji or MH decide who gets the premium seats ? 3) What are the meals served onboard ? 4) Is there different attire for the cabin crew? 5) Are the cockpit crew restricted to a certain religion? 6) Is it "halal" to make a profit on these flights? or is MH doing this as a "duty" I'm sure part of this info is listed somewhere in MAS's annual share report but I'd much prefer to hear what the insiders have to say instead of just raw numbers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted December 5, 2011 Some ans: (4) The female crew cover up. Different uniform. I somewhat recall that some of the femaile crew are non-muslims but not an issue. (5) Not sure if MH consciously chooses the tech crew by their professed faith, but no religious requirement as such. (6) Perfectly fine to make a profit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Suhaimi Fariz 2 Report post Posted December 5, 2011 6) Is it "halal" to make a profit on these flights? or is MH doing this as a "duty" Actually in Islam it's not wrong to make a profit - what's wrong is to make excessive profits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S M Tang 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2011 Actually in Islam it's not wrong to make a profit - what's wrong is to make excessive profits. Defining excessive profits may be a very subjective issue. But then again, it's not something MAS needs to worry about Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nik H. 3 Report post Posted December 5, 2011 Firstly I admit ignorance on my part and offer my apologies if this question is crude/ill mannered. However I've been curious about : 1) How much these Haj flights cost to the passenger 2) Are the planes reconfigured to an all economy seating ? If not how will Tabung Haji or MH decide who gets the premium seats ? 3) What are the meals served onboard ? 4) Is there different attire for the cabin crew? 5) Are the cockpit crew restricted to a certain religion? 6) Is it "halal" to make a profit on these flights? or is MH doing this as a "duty" I'm sure part of this info is listed somewhere in MAS's annual share report but I'd much prefer to hear what the insiders have to say instead of just raw numbers Q 1) Non Disclosure Agreement Q 2) 12F 442Y. TH decides. Based generally on price of Haj package taken Q 3) Agreed Menu as approved by Tabung Haji. Includes Menu Appraisal & Food Tasting Q 4) Yes. Q 5) Only for Madinah flights due to Hotel Availibility. Jedda is OK for all religion. Q 6) Yes its Halal. Of course there are elements inside Mh who are extremely shortsighted ( who lose money doing their own thing ) and want to make a killing but on my watch this never happened. Sorry, Raw Numbers are not the business of bystanders, but trust me, we have not lost money since the first day I got the contract back from AK in 2003, and the MH Haj product is definitely the BEST IN THE WORLD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Christopher Lim 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2011 Sorry, Raw Numbers are not the business of bystanders, but trust me, we have not lost money since the first day I got the contract back from AK in 2003, and the MH Haj product is definitely the BEST IN THE WORLD. Why only the Haj product? Why cant it be all their products? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nik H. 3 Report post Posted December 6, 2011 Why only the Haj product? Why cant it be all their products? That question is for Danny, AJ, Tony and the whole circus to answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nik H. 3 Report post Posted December 9, 2011 Rosak Lagi this morning. More delays. Well Done MH. You guys have truly shafted the Pilgrims this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tamizi Hj Tamby 1 Report post Posted December 9, 2011 (edited) Definitely tough luck for the delayed Pilgrims. Edited December 9, 2011 by Tamizi Hj Tamby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2011 Takde back up aircraft ke?? I thought MH has some B744 sitting around, especially from ex Al Wafeer.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
