Mohd Suhaimi Fariz 2 Report post Posted March 11, 2017 All these planemakers are stretching the fuselage of their next gen planes but never widening the width of it. Such long stretched narrowbody plane will have penalty in performance and passenger comfort. Widening the width takes more engineering to finetune the aerodynamics. Costs more too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KK Lee 5 Report post Posted March 11, 2017 All these planemakers are stretching the fuselage of their next gen planes but never widening the width of it. Such long stretched narrowbody plane will have penalty in performance and passenger comfort. Widening the fuselage width is no difference from building a new aircraft type. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted March 11, 2017 If the cross section is different, the certification will be for a new aircraft type. That is why manufacturer's only do stretches as these are treated as a derivative type. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jahur 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2017 Yeap much better to get new widebody types. Would prefer if more common cabins like 767/788 would do regional but nowadays stretch narrowbodies could easily take over that mission. No airline nor plane manufacturer would want new widebody because of cost and todays passengers travel pattern have become more frequency oriented than way then. Hence less preferences for new widebody. Pretty sad for old time travelers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandeep G 1 Report post Posted March 12, 2017 In a nutshell, operators want a new platform such as what is being discussed in a potential 797 type, rather than continuous flogging of the 737 design.. An all new type will meet the tech and operational demands of many carriers both in and outside of the LCC market. The 757 was truly a unique type, that saw its potential realized very late in its lifespan... Capitalizing on lessons from 777x, 787 programs, Boeing could really land itself a game changing aircraft, and potentially an A330neo killer - and whilst some would say you can't compare apples with oranges, one must also realize the shifting demand and comptitiveness amongst the airlines of the world. Smaller and more efficient medium-long range aircraft represent a large slice of the economic pie moving forward IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David.W 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2017 longer range small jets allows you to bypass hubs in many cases? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandeep G 1 Report post Posted March 12, 2017 ...or provide more frequencies at a more cost-and-capacity effective manner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted March 15, 2017 Boeing 737 MAX 8 gains FAA certification The Boeing 737 MAX 8, the first variant of the re-engined 737 exclusively powered by CFM International LEAP-1B engines, has gained FAA certification. http://atwonline.com/airframes/boeing-737-max-8-gains-faa-certification Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted April 15, 2017 Boeing's Second 737 MAX Variant Begins Flight Test SEATTLE—The first 737-9, the second member of Boeing’s 737 MAX family, made its first flight from the company’s Renton, Washington, facility on April 13, marking the start of a planned nine-month flight test and certification campaign. The flight, which occurred just four days after the 50th anniversary of the first flight of the prototype 737-100 in 1967, was achieved five days ahead of the schedule set when the program was launched in 2011 and marks another key milestone for the MAX program, which will see the 737-8, the first family member, enter service next month. The 737-9, crewed by 737 Boeing Test and Evaluation engineering test pilot Christine Walsh and chief model test pilot Edward “Ed” Wilson, took off at 10:52 a.m., before heading northwest over the Puget Sound to the Olympic Peninsula. The aircraft, dubbed 1B001, initially climbed to 10,000 ft., where the crew cycled the landing gear before slowly climbing to 12,000 ft. More: http://aviationweek.com/new-civil-aircraft/boeings-second-737-max-variant-begins-flight-test Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted April 15, 2017 Boeing could deliver 737 MAX 10X in 2020 if airlines start buying - executive Boeing Co (BA.N) could begin delivering the 737 MAX 10X aircraft in 2020 if airlines start ordering the largest version of its 737 MAX family this year, a senior executive of the aeroplane manufacturer said on Thursday. The comments from Boeing 737 MAX chief project engineer and deputy program manager Michael Teal came as the smaller 737 MAX 9 completed its first airport taxi test in Seattle on Wednesday. That aircraft will make its first test flight in Seattle on Thursday, weather permitting, he said. Boeing began marketing the 737 MAX 10X as an option to customers this year but has yet to receive any orders for the fuel-efficient single-aisle jetliner, which competes against the popular Airbus SE (AIR.PA) A321neo. More: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-boeing-idUSKBN17F0GR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted May 11, 2017 Boeing grounds 737 Max flights for engine inspections Boeing on Wednesday announced it is grounding all flights of its new single-aisle 737 Max. The plane maker has concerns about a manufacturing quality issue inside the jet's new engines. "Out of an abundance of caution, we decided to temporarily suspend MAX flights. The step is consistent with our priority focus on safety for all who use and fly our products," the plane maker said in a statement. The jet has not yet been delivered to airlines. The first delivery was expected to be this month. Boeing said it plans to stick to that schedule. Boeing (BA) said in a statement it is inspecting the core of each advanced Leap-1B engine. The engines are made by CFM International, which is a joint venture between General Electric (GE) and France's Safran. More: http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/10/news/companies/boeing-halts-737-max-flying-engine-issue/ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-10/boeing-temporarily-suspends-737-max-flights-on-engine-issue http://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boeing-grounds-737-max-test-planes-over-quality-issue-with-engine/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Suhaimi Fariz 2 Report post Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) I wonder if Malindo's MAX will be affected? EDIT: Never mind, just read that deliveries won't be affected. Edited May 11, 2017 by Mohd Suhaimi Fariz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted May 13, 2017 Boeing Resumes 737 MAX Flights MIAMI — Boeing has resumed some flight testing of the 737 MAX, three days after grounding the fleet citing issues related with CFM’s International LEAP-1B engine. The first aircraft to return to the air was 9M-LRC, a 737 MAX 8 destined for Batik Air Malaysia. The aircraft took off from Boeing Field around 12:15pm Pacific Standard Time and landed after conducting a one hour and twenty minute test flight. More: https://airwaysmag.com/manufacturer/boeing-resumes-737-max-flights/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Suhaimi Fariz 2 Report post Posted May 13, 2017 Anybody going on the inaugural? Was thinking of going but the fare is incredibly crazy.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted May 13, 2017 I am waiting for them to fly it to BKI or HKG - longer flight! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amirul Mazlan 0 Report post Posted May 13, 2017 Its gonna be blue seats a-la Lion's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted June 3, 2017 Boeing delays delivery of third 737 MAX jetliner http://www.reuters.com/article/us-boeing-deliveries-idUSKBN18T2SV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC Tam 2 Report post Posted June 3, 2017 Are the Malaysian MAXs already delivered still flying ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tamizi Hj Tamby 1 Report post Posted June 3, 2017 Are the Malaysian MAXs already delivered still flying ? According to Flightradar24: * 9M-LRC is currently at SIN for OD803 (KUL-SIN), with estimated departure at 1010hrs, and * for 9M-LRD, so far no latest info on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted June 3, 2017 Are they doing something to LRD, e.g fitting PTV to the seats or adding business class seats? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2017 Are they doing something to LRD, e.g fitting PTV to the seats or adding business class seats? My understanding is they are not. These will serve LCC markets but as expected they have found there way onto the Singapore route. Perhaps there were few or no J passengers on that flight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) My understanding is they are not. These will serve LCC markets but as expected they have found there way onto the Singapore route. Perhaps there were few or no J passengers on that flight. Just tried to check in for OD 801 and received a message that there is an issue with my ticket hmm... what could it be? A quick check on expert flyer and I see that the 7M8 is on so Im about to get downgraded to Y. It would have been nice if they had told me and offered me another flight there has been no contact. From experience this flight is usually pretty full in J so the regular faces will be none too pleased. Will be interesting to see how this is handled and what compensation is offered etc. Edited June 4, 2017 by Robert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenneth Chong WT 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2017 Just tried to check in for OD 801 and received a message that there is an issue with my ticket hmm... what could it be? A quick check on expert flyer and I see that the 7M8 is on so Im about to get downgraded to Y. It would have been nice if they had told me and offered me another flight there has been no contact. From experience this flight is usually pretty full in J so the regular faces will be none too pleased. Will be interesting to see how this is handled and what compensation is offered etc. Keep us posted... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hon Kit 3 Report post Posted June 4, 2017 Malindo Air (Batik Air Malaysia) on Wednesday (17MAY17) updated its schedule, which sees the launch of world’s first Boeing 737MAX 8 service (7M8). The all-Economy Class 180-seater aircraft is scheduled to enter service on 22MAY17, operating on following routes.Current 737MAX 8 schedule is updated until 30JUN17 inclusive, and is subject to change. Kuala Lumpur – Singapore 22MAY17 OD803/80401JUN17 – 30JUN17 OD801/802 Looks like you are gonna be downgraded. But i think when u arrive at airport, you should be given option to downgrade to Y or reschedule you to OD803 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2017 Malindo Air (Batik Air Malaysia) on Wednesday (17MAY17) updated its schedule, which sees the launch of world’s first Boeing 737MAX 8 service (7M8). The all-Economy Class 180-seater aircraft is scheduled to enter service on 22MAY17, operating on following routes. Current 737MAX 8 schedule is updated until 30JUN17 inclusive, and is subject to change. Kuala Lumpur – Singapore 22MAY17 OD803/804 01JUN17 – 30JUN17 OD801/802 Looks like you are gonna be downgraded. But i think when u arrive at airport, you should be given option to downgrade to Y or reschedule you to OD803 Thanks - will look to change my future flights to a different carrier or fly on the sunday evening. Cannot change to a later one today because I have to get to work Share this post Link to post Share on other sites