Nick R. 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2015 Anybody knows which batch of 737 were supposed to go to Firefly after 9M-FFF, had they not been prematurely killed? I guess its the ML + MS series? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) Think they need more a330 with newer products as a replacement for 772. The current A330 fleet should be around for at least another 10 years as they are quite new. The A350-900 will join from 2017. With MH not being able to fill up their planes, they should consider looking at the A321NEO for some of their regional routes - this will definitely offer a better product than the B738. Vietnam Airlines, Philippine Airlines and Eva Air are amongst those East Asian airlines that are presently using the A321 to good effect. If MH has A321NEOs for regional routes, it can perhaps grow the A350-900 fleet and resume some of their long haul routes in 3 or 4 years. Meanwhile, the existing A330s can undergo cabin refits to make them more competitive for the >6 hour routes like PEK, NRT. SYD, etc. Anybody knows which batch of 737 were supposed to go to Firefly after 9M-FFF, had they not been prematurely killed? I guess its the ML + MS series? I believe that FY had their own order book - they have their own Boeing customer code. e.g. 9M-FFF was a Boeing 737-8FZ(WL)... If their aircraft were coming from MH, I would think it would be from the ML series as all their B737s were leased. Edited October 18, 2015 by flee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Y. J. Foo 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2015 The current A330 fleet should be around for at least another 10 years as they are quite new. The A350-900 will join from 2017. With MH not being able to fill up their planes, they should consider looking at the A321NEO for some of their regional routes - this will definitely offer a better product than the B738. Vietnam Airlines, Philippine Airlines and Eva Air are amongst those East Asian airlines that are presently using the A321 to good effect. If MH has A321NEOs for regional routes, it can perhaps grow the A350-900 fleet and resume some of their long haul routes in 3 or 4 years. Meanwhile, the existing A330s can undergo cabin refits to make them more competitive for the >6 hour routes like PEK, NRT. SYD, etc. I believe that FY had their own order book - they have their own Boeing customer code. e.g. 9M-FFF was a Boeing 737-8FZ(WL)... If their aircraft were coming from MH, I would think it would be from the ML series as all their B737s were leased. IMO introducing B737-900ERs to complement existing B738s might be better from fleet commonality viewpoint. BTW FZ is Boeing customer code for Babcock & Brown. Seems that FY doesn't have a specific Boeing customer code at this moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted October 18, 2015 IMO introducing B737-900ERs to complement existing B738s might be better from fleet commonality viewpoint. If MH places orders for new aircraft, they should be B737 Max 9's. However, these are not the best aircraft for the medium range missions on MH's routes. In fact, most airlines that need this category of performance have ordered A321NEOs. IMHO, MH should use the B737-800 for short haul domestic and ASEAN routes, A321/A330 for regional routes and A350/A380 for intercontinental long haul routes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yang Zulhilmi 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2015 -MLD to -MLF & -FFD to -FFF are the same planes reregistered. if I'm not mistaken MLD is ex-OK Airways plane. with purple seats on both J and Y class. FFD,FFE previously flown with South African Airways, the 738 with eyebrows only MLA to MLC that have been reregistered to FFA to FFC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2015 9M-FFD B737-85F - South African Airways ZS-SJI > Fireflyz 9M-FFD > Malaysia Airlines 9M-FFD 9M-FFE B737-85F- South African Airways ZS-SJJ > Fireflyz 9M-FFE > Malaysia Airlines 9M-FFE 9M-FFF B737-8FZ- Malaysia Airlines 9M-MLK ntu > Fireflyz 9M-FFF > Malaysia Airlines 9M-FFF 9M-MLD B737-8GQ- Okay Airways B-5366 > AWAS N793AW > Malaysia Airlines 9M-MLD 9M-MLE B737-8FH- Hong Kong Airlines B-KBP > RBS Aviation Capital N126RB > Malaysia Airlines 9M-MLE 9M-MLF B737-8FZ- Delta Airlines ntu > Malaysia Airlines 9M-MLF 9M-MLG B737-8FZ- Delta Airlines ntu > Malaysia Airlines 9M-MLG 9M-MLH B737-8FZ- Delta Airlines ntu > Malaysia Airlines 9M-MLH 9M-MLI B737-8FZ- Delta Airlines ntu > Malaysia Airlines 9M-MLI 9M-MLJ B737-8FZ- Malaysia Airlines 9M-MLJ 9M-MLK B737-8FZ- Malaysia Airlines 9M-MLK 9M-MLL B737-8FZ- Malaysia Airlines 9M-MLL MH originally intent to lease only used aircraft for FY, evident by first few B738. The B738NG order placed by MH was all meant for mainline MH service only. "Firefly will operate six Boeing 737-800s in 2011 and by 2012 this will increase to 13 aircraft. There will of course be announcements of new routes in the future as our fleet grows.” Managing Director Dato’ Eddy Leong stated during the unvieling ceremony of FY's first B738. Link The 12 B738 with different codes above tallied with FY's initial plan. 9M-FFA, 9M-FFB, 9M-FFC have since left FY/MH fleet. I would like to see MH's colour on Airbus narrowbody, however with excess plane capacity now, I don't think MH will buy/lease new aircraft type. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flee 5 Report post Posted October 19, 2015 I would like to see MH's colour on Airbus narrowbody, however with excess plane capacity now, I don't think MH will buy/lease new aircraft type. I tend to agree with you on this - MAB needs to stabilise the ship right now. So it has to downsize to ensure that it is easier to manage. It is also laying down foundations for future expansion. Any orders for new aircraft will only be made to fill up any holes or gaps in their operations, Long term fleet replacement decisions will be postponed until the airline has shown signs of recovery and new plans for the airline can be made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2015 I tend to agree with you on this - MAB needs to stabilise the ship right now. So it has to downsize to ensure that it is easier to manage. It is also laying down foundations for future expansion. Any orders for new aircraft will only be made to fill up any holes or gaps in their operations, Long term fleet replacement decisions will be postponed until the airline has shown signs of recovery and new plans for the airline can be made. Sadly true. MH needs to do a Japan Airlines-style on turnaround. Back then, JL retired entire 747 fleet, shutdown JALCargo........what an un-glamorous end for both. Shed thousands of employee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick R. 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2015 9M-FFD B737-85F - South African Airways ZS-SJI > Fireflyz 9M-FFD > Malaysia Airlines 9M-FFD 9M-FFE B737-85F- South African Airways ZS-SJJ > Fireflyz 9M-FFE > Malaysia Airlines 9M-FFE 9M-FFF B737-8FZ- Malaysia Airlines 9M-MLK ntu > Fireflyz 9M-FFF > Malaysia Airlines 9M-FFF 9M-MLD B737-8GQ- Okay Airways B-5366 > AWAS N793AW > Malaysia Airlines 9M-MLD 9M-MLE B737-8FH- Hong Kong Airlines B-KBP > RBS Aviation Capital N126RB > Malaysia Airlines 9M-MLE 9M-MLF B737-8FZ- Delta Airlines ntu > Malaysia Airlines 9M-MLF 9M-MLG B737-8FZ- Delta Airlines ntu > Malaysia Airlines 9M-MLG 9M-MLH B737-8FZ- Delta Airlines ntu > Malaysia Airlines 9M-MLH 9M-MLI B737-8FZ- Delta Airlines ntu > Malaysia Airlines 9M-MLI 9M-MLJ B737-8FZ- Malaysia Airlines 9M-MLJ 9M-MLK B737-8FZ- Malaysia Airlines 9M-MLK 9M-MLL B737-8FZ- Malaysia Airlines 9M-MLL MH originally intent to lease only used aircraft for FY, evident by first few B738. The B738NG order placed by MH was all meant for mainline MH service only. "Firefly will operate six Boeing 737-800s in 2011 and by 2012 this will increase to 13 aircraft. There will of course be announcements of new routes in the future as our fleet grows.” Managing Director Dato’ Eddy Leong stated during the unvieling ceremony of FY's first B738. Link The 12 B738 with different codes above tallied with FY's initial plan. 9M-FFA, 9M-FFB, 9M-FFC have since left FY/MH fleet. I would like to see MH's colour on Airbus narrowbody, however with excess plane capacity now, I don't think MH will buy/lease new aircraft type. Thanks Update on deliveries: Malindo 9M-LNW 2015-10-16 Seattle (BFI) Kuala Lumpur (SZB) - - 05:09 - Landed 04:34 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) Malaysia Airlines's latest B737-8H6 cn 41767/5615 is now ntu, delivered to Pegasus Airlines as TC-CPY. Source: http://www.trfleetnews.com/pegasus-with-a-new-boeing/ https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/Boeing/737/41767/TC-CPY-Pegasus Malaysia Airlines placed an order for 35 firm plus 20 options B737-800 back in 2008. In 2011, they converted 10 options to firm order. Delivery was to commence in 2016. Thus total firm order was to be 45 with 10 options. Currently the total number of B737NG (owned and leased) operated is 57. Leased birds (9M-FF* and 9M-ML*) total of 22. 57-22= 35 birds, exact figure as per original firm order. Those 10 firm order exercised in 2011 will never be delivered. MH might have incur penalty for cancelling at last minute. Edited October 20, 2015 by JuliusWong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2015 First leased non-BSI B737NG is out of service. 9M-MLD B737-8GQ- Okay Airways B-5366 > AWAS N793AW > Malaysia Airlines 9M-MLD Withdrawn from use on 26/AUG/2015 Delivered to AWAS as N191CR Source: https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/Boeing/737/35793/N191CR-AWAS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2015 Reviving this thread: 17 B777-2H6ER MH used to fly: Scrapped- 2 (9M-MRI, 9M-MRK) Written off- 2 (9M-MRD, 9M-MRO) Withdrawn from use- 7 (9M-MRB, 9M-MRC, 9M-MRF, 9M-MRG, 9M-MRH, 9M-MRJ, 9M-MRN) Staying in service- 6 (9M-MRA, 9M-MRE, 9M-MRL, 9M-MRM, 9M-MRP, 9M-MRQ) 9M-MLD B737-8GQ- Okay Airways B-5366 > AWAS N793AW > Malaysia Airlines 9M-MLD Withdrawn from use on 26/AUG/2015 Delivered to AWAS as N191CR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) B777-2H6ER 9M-MRF is now re-registered as N77728. Registered to WFBN Wells Fargo Bank Northwest. FAA Registration record: http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=77728 Edited October 29, 2015 by JuliusWong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
knasrul 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2015 Why they withdrawn too many of the 777? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yang Zulhilmi 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2015 B777-2H6ER 9M-MRF is now re-registered as N77728. Registered to WFBN Wells Fargo Bank Northwest. FAA Registration record: http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=77728 My first ever widebody experience was onboard MRF.. Sad to see her go.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alif A. F. 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2015 B777-2H6ER 9M-MRF is now re-registered as N77728. Registered to WFBN Wells Fargo Bank Northwest. FAA Registration record: http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=77728 My last ride on -MRF was 5th June this year to BKI. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2015 Why they withdrawn too many of the 777? Downsizing of business. Most route previously flown with B777 has been cancelled/ on the brink on being cancelled (CDG/AMS). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2015 9M-MQK B737-4H6 Malaysia Airlines > N599GL Onix Trade Delivery date: 28 Oct 2015 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kee Hooi Yen 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2015 My first ever widebody experience was onboard MRF.. Sad to see her go.. At least she has found a new home, not going to the graveyard or being scrapped 😊 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2015 At least she has found a new home, not going to the graveyard or being scrapped Not really, no new owner yet. She was re-registered with lessor's registration and landed at Spain Teruel Airport recently. The airport is now overcrowded with Transaero and UTair fleet after both airlines are returning hundreds of plane even brand new A321. More to come....... They are also scrapping few aircraft at situ as well. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=932662&page=16 http://derbosoft.proboards.com/thread/17891/teruel-letl-spain-09-2015 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kee Hooi Yen 0 Report post Posted October 31, 2015 Oh.... Anyway thanks for the info Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mushrif A 3 Report post Posted November 3, 2015 Looks like ex-9M-MMM operated by Shaheen Air as AP-BJO had a one-legged off-runway excursion at LHE today. Probably had its last landing ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusWong 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2015 Yes, she looks bad. Last year, Shaheen suffered similar runway excursion due to bird strike prior to landing. The bird struck the nose gear few seconds before landing. Nose gear collapsed upon touching down. The aircraft was AP-BJN ex-9M-MQC. Still stored unrepaired in LHR till today. Perhaps they may call MH soon for more B734.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaTan 0 Report post Posted November 10, 2015 has the old MAB 737 interior be phased out of the fleet? the conditions of some of the seats is terrible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenneth Chong WT 0 Report post Posted November 10, 2015 has the old MAB 737 interior be phased out of the fleet? the conditions of some of the seats is terrible http://www.theborneopost.com/2015/11/05/couple-terrified-to-find-themselves-in-ageing-aircraft/ They still are...sadly... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
