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Dear Pilots,

Appreciate if you can share with us your days while waiting to get a job.

 

-Which flying academy/company you are came from, previously...

-How long you are waiting for the job until now

-What is your total experiences/qualifications

-What are you doing at the moment

-What is your next plan

-Etc

 

"Boss...another teh tarik"

Edited by Wan Mohd Faizul Rizal

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Dear Pilots,

Appreciate if you can share with us your days while waiting to get a job.

 

-Which flying academy/company you are came from, previously...

-How long you are waiting for the job until now

-What is your total experiences/qualifications

-What are you doing at the moment

-What is your next plan

-Etc

 

"Boss...another teh tarik"

 

hi,

 

1) Was from Malaysian flying Academy

2) Graduated in jan 2010 this year and have no luck in getting any pilot job ever since

3) i have a degree in IT and formerly a cabin crew

4) currently working with a malaysian mainboard listed company while waiting

5) next plan, what can we do except to wait for the industry to get better

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Dear Pilots,

Appreciate if you can share with us your days while waiting to get a job.

 

-Which flying academy/company you are came from, previously...

-How long you are waiting for the job until now

-What is your total experiences/qualifications

-What are you doing at the moment

-What is your next plan

-Etc

 

"Boss...another teh tarik"

 

1) Western Australian Aviation College

2) End July 2010

3) 250 hours / JAA (UK) CPL/IR ME

4) R&R - Rotting and Reflecting...

5) Flight instructor maybe?

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Hi Wan Mohd Faizul Rizal,

 

-Which flying academy/company you are came from, previously...

Malaysian Flying Academy

 

-How long you are waiting for the job until now

around 10 months

 

-What is your total experiences/qualifications

210 Hours CPL/IR with UKCAA Frozen-ATPL

 

-What are you doing at the moment

Assistant Flying Instructor Course in MFA

 

-What is your next plan

Temporary as an instructor until I get an airline job

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1) Flight Training Australia (Archerfield, Brisbane)

2) End of May 2009

3) CPL 230 Hours

4) Aerospace Analyst at a Consulting Firm and part time studying for a business degree (graduate end of the month)

5) Conversion to Malaysian License perhaps?

 

1) Flight Training Australia (Archerfield, Brisbane)

2) End of May 2009

3) CPL 230 Hours

4) Aerospace Analyst at a Consulting Firm and part time studying for a business degree (graduate end of the month)

5) Conversion to Malaysian License perhaps?

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hi,

 

1) Was from Malaysian flying Academy

2) Graduated in jan 2010 this year and have no luck in getting any pilot job ever since

3) i have a degree in IT and formerly a cabin crew

4) currently working with a malaysian mainboard listed company while waiting

5) next plan, what can we do except to wait for the industry to get better

 

Hi AndyYcw,

1) MFA..wow, very well established flying academy in Malaysia.

How long you took to finish up your ATPL Frozen in there?

Did you start from zero, abridge course or lic conversion?

2) Jan 2010-Oct 2010 = 10 months in waiting :(

3) Degree in IT + ex-cabin crew + ATPL Frozen? You have high qualifications and experiences. But still hard to be in airline as Co-Pilot (10 months already).

Its showing that, we have unsatisfied aviation market at the moment. What a sad, huh...

4) At least you have an income (good income maybe) for the time being. Appreciate in what you have now coz others might be not as lucky as you are

5) Agreed with you...Nothing can do other than waiting :)

 

"Boss... Teh tarik satu for Andy"

 

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1) Western Australian Aviation College

2) End July 2010

3) 250 hours / JAA (UK) CPL/IR ME

4) R&R - Rotting and Reflecting...

5) Flight instructor maybe?

 

Hi Albert,

 

1) Are you Malaysian (Didnt check your members data)? If so, Welcome home Buddy. How's Aussie chicks? :p

2) Jul 2010-Oct 2010=3 months (Seems 3 years, isnt it?)

3) Have you done your Lic conversion? If you done it, How much it cost you on twin conversion, and where you carried out the training?

4) ...

5) RM43K (rough figure) for AFI course right...? That is better option coz maintaining the flying.

 

" Wanna another teh tarik?"

 

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Hi Wan Mohd Faizul Rizal,

 

-Which flying academy/company you are came from, previously...

Malaysian Flying Academy

 

-How long you are waiting for the job until now

around 10 months

 

-What is your total experiences/qualifications

210 Hours CPL/IR with UKCAA Frozen-ATPL

 

-What are you doing at the moment

Assistant Flying Instructor Course in MFA

 

-What is your next plan

Temporary as an instructor until I get an airline job

 

 

Hi Hanx,

Full name huh... :lol: 'Wan' should be ok.

 

1) And you, how long you took to finish up your ATPL Frozen in MFA? So, you and Andy knowing each other?

2) 10 months...our friends outside there facing the same thing. 12months waiting...average.(Subject to aviation market in Malaysia)

3) 200hrs +- 10hours, should be ok with that.

4) How much it cost you for AFI course in MFA?

5) Another great option while waiting to be in an airline. Other than can make money, also can maintaining the flying, thus experience.

 

"Teh tarik or...?"

 

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1) Flight Training Australia (Archerfield, Brisbane)

2) End of May 2009

3) CPL 230 Hours

4) Aerospace Analyst at a Consulting Firm and part time studying for a business degree (graduate end of the month)

5) Conversion to Malaysian License perhaps?

 

Hi Prashant...

Have a seat, Teh Tarik? :lol:

 

1) Brisbane...lots of Malaysian went there. Basically, THE COST IS CHEAPER THAN MALAYSIA itself (correct me if i am wrong). Why?

Any comment Prashant?

2) May 2009, still didnt continue your conversion?

3) CASA CPL right?

4) Another pilot having great experiences :lol: , and still wanted to get degree in business? cool...I am totally agreed, having Degree

definitely will help us. Especially in this kind of situation...waiting market.

5) Which academy do you plan to continue your conversion?

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I used 17 and half months to finished my course here. Andy is my bacthmate.

 

200 +-10 because currently I'm doing instructor course. Hours still increasing.

 

The cost for AFI is around RM35k... I bonded with MFA for 2 years.

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Hi Albert,

 

1) Are you Malaysian (Didnt check your members data)? If so, Welcome home Buddy. How's Aussie chicks? :p

2) Jul 2010-Oct 2010=3 months (Seems 3 years, isnt it?)

3) Have you done your Lic conversion? If you done it, How much it cost you on twin conversion, and where you carried out the training?

4) ...

5) RM43K (rough figure) for AFI course right...? That is better option coz maintaining the flying.

 

" Wanna another teh tarik?"

 

 

1) Yes I'm Malaysian. Aussie chicks? Drunk most of the time.

2) Sorry it's suppose to Oct 08 - Jul 10.

3) No I've not converted my licence. Just did my DCA Class 1 medical 2 days ago.

5) I've not decided where to do my instructor's course, so not sure what the cost will be. I don't mind making it a career.

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I used 17 and half months to finished my course here. Andy is my bacthmate.

 

200 +-10 because currently I'm doing instructor course. Hours still increasing.

 

The cost for AFI is around RM35k... I bonded with MFA for 2 years.

 

 

Roughly 1 year and 6 months...

Its fast dude.Seriously its short period when comparing to other Academy that flying EFIS single engine aircraft (You know what I mean).

RM35K also consider cheap because in certain Academy I have noticed somewhere around RM40K for the AFI course.

If you don't mind, how much MFA pay for their bonded AFI? I heard they didn't count the payment for flying hours. Am i correct?

 

1) Yes I'm Malaysian. Aussie chicks? Drunk most of the time.

2) Sorry it's suppose to Oct 08 - Jul 10.

3) No I've not converted my licence. Just did my DCA Class 1 medical 2 days ago.

5) I've not decided where to do my instructor's course, so not sure what the cost will be. I don't mind making it a career.

 

 

So, do you plan to do your Lic Conversion in certain period of time? You wish for twin conversion or single engine conversion? Because few friends I have they did their single engine conversion only. The cost is cheaper but only award with CPL single engine (CPL/WITHOUT IR).

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So, do you plan to do your Lic Conversion in certain period of time? You wish for twin conversion or single engine conversion? Because few friends I have they did their single engine conversion only. The cost is cheaper but only award with CPL single engine (CPL/WITHOUT IR).

 

I haven't really think about it. Still trying to explore my options.

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Bros,

 

Just wondering have you thought about moving elsewhere to pursue your ambitions?

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I am not too sure what the job market is like elsewhere but even though the GA market in Australia is pretty huge, jobs are few and far between. My batch mates who are Australian Citizens are finding it difficult to get a hold of a job let alone us foreigners.

 

I guess we just have to play the waiting game and make use of the time we have now to enhance our qualifications.

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Hi Waiping,

Emm...sorry. Not really get what you mean.Moving elsewhere? :unsure:

 

Maybe consider moving to another country to pursue the pilot career.

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Maybe consider moving to another country to pursue the pilot career.

 

Oh got it...not all pilots prefer to be in other countries, except their own country but MOST of young pilots prefer the way you preferred.

Why choose to be a pilot if don't want to expand our wing over the whole world, right?

 

But, the main issue is other countries accept rated and experienced pilots only (Example: At least 1500hours on A320).

Even they accept fresh and non-experience pilots, they will ask this group to pay for the type rating training.

 

What about fresh graduated and non experience pilots? They only hope their local airlines to give them a chance in order to gain hours, thus gain their experience (To fresh pilots outside there, please appreciate any chance given to you and do the best for you and our Malaysia aviation industry).Yes, our Malaysia Government did to help young pilots by putting a requirement to our local airlines (Any airlines in Malaysia must give priority to our local pilots in order to fill up First Officer position, other than let it to foreigners).

 

But, how many airlines we have in Malaysia? I really hope someday we have a really huge airline in Malaysia such Qatar Airways... We can't go bigger if we keep on continue competing while 'killing' others and we can't go wider if we forget who we are once we are comfort in wealth and fame.

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