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Rj is to reduce frequency to KUL

 

http://www.bloomberg...petra-says.html

 

Despite the earlier news, RJ is in fact increasing KUL from 3 weekly to 4 weekly flights. http://airlineroute.net/2012/04/10/rj-hkgkul-may12/

 

Bangkok – Kuala Lumpur

RJ182 BKK1615 – 1910KUL 330 2

RJ182 BKK1615 – 1925KUL 330 135

RJ183 KUL2150 – 2305BKK 330 2

RJ181 KUL2210 – 2325BKK 330 135

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Iraqi Airways plan to fly to KUL :)

 

"We want to expand our fleet and operate routes to Europe, Malaysia and India. We want to operate just like any other regional airline," said Nasser Hussein Bandar, the head of Iraq's civil aviation authority. Iraqi Airways, founded in 1945, is among the oldest airlines in the region but has no planes of its own after it liquidated its assets and attempted to dissolve the entity to avoid paying hundreds of millions of dollars of debt owed to Kuwait.

 

See details:

http://www.albawaba.com/business/iraq-airways-back-425657

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Middle East carriers consolidate their grip over Southeast Asia

 

 

Middle-East airlines growth into Southeast Asia goes unabated with more capacities being added into the market. With the opening of secondary routes, they increasingly threaten hub operations of established carriers such as Singapore Airlines, Malaysia Airlines and Thai Airways International.

 

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BANGKOK- Etihad Airways’ arrival in Vietnam and Qatar Airways’ return to Yangon confirm the irresistible growth of Gulf carriers into one of the most dynamic part of the world, Southeast Asia. Most of these carriers started flying into Southeast Asia in the mid-nineties, Bangkok being the first destination served in the region, generally followed by Singapore –due to its financial hub status- and Manila due mostly to large groups of Filipino workers employed in the Middle-East. Gulf carriers already forced local airlines such as Philippine Airlines, Malaysia Airlines and Thai Airways International to reduce their presence in the Gulf –even to close down their operations such as Malaysia Airlines in Dubai.

 

But the latest round of expansion is now submerging secondary destinations with governments in Southeast Asia unlikely to resist for too long due to the economic pressure that some States such as Qatar or the UAE will put on their Asian counterparts to secure traffic rights for their airlines. A dozen of airlines –if including both Egypt Air and Turkish Airlines which compete on the same segment- serve today nine destinations in Southeast Asia – ten from October with Qatar Airways landing again in Yangon.

 

What will be the future in the region? As large hubs are already well covered by Middle-East carriers, secondary destinations are the key to the future. Three years ago, Qatar Airways already indicated to pay a close look to Surabaya in Indonesia, a city of over three million inhabitants and a major economic centre; increasing number of tourists going to Phuket and Bali as well as a growing community of expatriates in both resort Islands- are likely to push more airlines asking for traffic rights. Phuket and Bali are for now only served by Qatar Airways, the first one via Kuala Lumpur, the second via Singapore.

 

Qatar Airways has been so far the most aggressive in the region in terms of destinations. It was the first airline to serve in the early 2000s Yangon as well as Cebu. While Yangon is back on Qatar Airways’ map, Cebu is also likely to be back within the next five years. And this is only a question of time before Emirates or Etihad set their eyes on Yangon as well. Other cities in Southeast Asia with a potential for a direct link to the Gulf are Penang in Malaysia, Medan and Yogyakarta in Indonesia and in a more distant future, Southern Thailand’s province of Krabi due to increasing congestion of Phuket International Airport.

 

Next October, Bangkok Suvarnabhumi International Airport will still offer the biggest capacity to the Middle-East with 181,567 seats per month followed by Kuala Lumpur with 121,177 and Jakarta with a total of 82,238 seats per month. Emirates Airlines meanwhile remains the largest carrier to the region in seat capacities. The carrier offers up to four daily flights to some capitals in the region, being the first to put into service the Airbus A380. It is followed by Qatar Airways with the largest portfolio of destinations.

 

Table: Middle East Airlines seat capacities out of selected destinations in Southeast Asia to the Middle East for October 2012

 

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source: http://traveldailyne...nsolidate-their

Edited by nrazmoor

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Mahan Air Starts Tehran – Kuala Lumpur Service

by JL

Update at 1020GMT 17AUG12

Iran’s Mahan Air on 14AUG12 has launched Tehran – Kuala Lumpur service, on board Airbus A310 aircraft. This is the carrier’s third route to Kuala Lumpur, with twice weekly flights, although the airline’s website is only displaying one weekly service.

Schedule:

 

W5083 IKA2355 – 1200+1KUL 310 2

W5082 KUL1400 – 1930IKA 310 3

SOURCE:http://airlineroute.net/2012/08/17/w5-ikakul-aug12/

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Yup confirmed.

 

The 4th daily flight is flight EK 344/345 operates by A330-200.

 

EK 344 Dep DXB 21:45 Arr KUL 08:50+1

EK 345 Dep KUL 11:00 Arr DXB 14:30

 

The flight is now bookable from http://www.emirates....lish/index.aspx

 

EK will then operates 4 types into KUL - A380, B77W, B773 and A332.

 

So let say after 3 Dec, in any particular day, someone wanted to fly to the West with EK, he/she can choose to depart at:

 

02:00 EK 343 B773

09:50 EK 409 B77W

11:00 EK 345 A332

19:30 EK 347 A380

 

EK beats MH 28-0 on the KUL-DXB sector (based on weekly frequency).

 

The new flight completes the flight sequence number of 342/343/344/345/346/347 designated for KUL.

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EK beats MH 28-0 on the KUL-DXB sector (based on weekly frequency).

 

 

Cant really say that. We need to know how many EK pax from KUL are actually terminating in DXB.

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I have a feeling most of them are only transiting DXB to get to europe, central asia or africa... does anyone what the percentage is?

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The data is difficult to obtain. MAHB records everything as figures to DXB and EK, which resulted in DXB being the 9th busiest destination and EK as the 5th largest carriers in KUL in 2011.

 

 

Busiest destinations to/from KLIA in 2011 [passengers movement of more than 500,000]:

 

1. Singapore - 2,944,187 (+7.7%)

2. Jakarta - 1,551,994 (+16.1%)

3. Bangkok - 1,470,878 (+8.1%)

4. Hong Kong - 1,302,657 (+5.3%)

5. Denpasar - 794,578 (+11.5%)

 

6. Melbourne - 688,081 (-3.0%)

7. Ho Chi Minh City - 655,095 (+15.6%)

8. Taipei - 654,557 - (-1.1%)

9. Dubai - 615,068 - (+8.2%)

10. Guangzhou - 596,188 (+29.2%)

 

11. Medan - 530,700 (+16.5%)

12. Phuket - 519,781 (+21.4%)

13. Seoul - 519,065 (+52.7%)

14. Surabaya - 509,960 (+8.1%)

 

10 LARGEST AIRLINES IN KLIA

 

2011

 

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I have a feeling most of them are only transiting DXB to get to europe, central asia or africa... does anyone what the percentage is?

 

If QR/DOH pax profile is similar to EK/DXB, fewer than 20% of pax originating/terminating at DOH/DXB. Implying MH is missing out ex-KUL demand, incapable to cater for ex-KUL pax or both.

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Cant really say that. We need to know how many EK pax from KUL are actually terminating in DXB.

 

Well, he's talking about flights operating between the KUL-DXB sector. So he's right.

Edited by alberttky

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Well, he's talking about flights operating between the KUL-DXB sector. So he's right.

 

Duh...of course, it was pretty obvious what he's talking about. Care to do a QF vs MH on KUL to all Aussie cities? I'm sure it will trump that 28-0 score.

 

 

A more meaningful observation is to look at the final destination of the pax on EK's service to DXB.

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If QR/DOH pax profile is similar to EK/DXB, fewer than 20% of pax originating/terminating at DOH/DXB. Implying MH is missing out ex-KUL demand, incapable to cater for ex-KUL pax or both.

 

Not only MH, even SQ cannot beat both QR/EK in terms of connectivity to SIN and vv. If im not mistaken, SQ didnt even serve DOH but QR having 2x daily flight to SIN. :)

Edited by nrazmoor

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Duh...of course, it was pretty obvious what he's talking about. Care to do a QF vs MH on KUL to all Aussie cities? I'm sure it will trump that 28-0 score.

 

 

A more meaningful observation is to look at the final destination of the pax on EK's service to DXB.

hahaha.. u r rite! besides we also can say MH beat BA 2X daily on KUL-LHR with A380 jumbo... BA KNOCK OUT!

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If QR/DOH pax profile is similar to EK/DXB, fewer than 20% of pax originating/terminating at DOH/DXB. Implying MH is missing out ex-KUL demand, incapable to cater for ex-KUL pax or both.

 

MH cannot possibly cater to those ex-KUL passengers especially when more than 80% of those traffic are connecting traffic. If those passengers are connecting to cities in Africa, Europe, Middle East or South America, MH will not be able to justify its own services to those cities hence why EK/QR is able to pick up those traffic from KUL.

 

This is similar to why BA is struggling on its SYD route because BA have EK, QR, EY, MH, SQ, CX, JL, TG etc. competing for traffic from London/UK to Australia/NZ. All the other airlines serve major cities in Australia while BA can only afford to serve 1 (and if you are going to MEL, it requires a layover in SYD).

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MH cannot possibly cater to those ex-KUL passengers especially when more than 80% of those traffic are connecting traffic. If those passengers are connecting to cities in Africa, Europe, Middle East or South America, MH will not be able to justify its own services to those cities hence why EK/QR is able to pick up those traffic from KUL.

 

This is similar to why BA is struggling on its SYD route because BA have EK, QR, EY, MH, SQ, CX, JL, TG etc. competing for traffic from London/UK to Australia/NZ. All the other airlines serve major cities in Australia while BA can only afford to serve 1 (and if you are going to MEL, it requires a layover in SYD).

 

In theory, every additional note to a network give a positive multiplier to the whole network. If MH have extensive network and regular frequency, MH need not depend on ex-KUL pax alone but feed from the whole network like QR, EY, EK, SQ, etc.

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In theory, every additional note to a network give a positive multiplier to the whole network. If MH have extensive network and regular frequency, MH need not depend on ex-KUL pax alone but feed from the whole network like QR, EY, EK, SQ, etc.

 

True - which is why MH needs to start adding more regional flights (which they are doing) and have at least once a day long-haul flights. Previously, there are way too many destinations that are served 3-4 weekly - if they are going to do it, do it daily.

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Some updates about the Middle Eastern giants' expansion in (rather surprising) destinations around KUL.

 

Emirates Dubai - Phuket non stop. Daily A343.

 

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This is quite a major step since although QR has earlier established their foothole in HKT, their service is via KUL. HKT has made a mark here since EK is still mulling of starting a service into DPS but still have not materialised.

 

 

Speaking of QR, they have started DOH-RGN, 3 weekly A319. They are also planning DOH-PNH from 23 February 2013.

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From 4th December 2012, Emirates has introduced an additional flight from Kuala Lumpur to Dubai, bringing the total to 25 flights a week. Enjoy an evening arrival in Europe when you catch the new flight.

Make your journey unforgettable with award-winning service, up to 1,400 channels of inflight entertainment and gourmet cuisine in all classes. With seamless connections through Dubai, you'll arrive relaxed and ready for a good night's sleep before your first full day in Europe. It's the ideal way to start your trip.

Flight number Departure Arrival Flight Schedule

EK345 Kuala Lumpur 11:00 Dubai 14:30 Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday (Tuesday to Saturday from 7th February 2013)

EK344 Dubai 21:45 Kuala Lumpur 08:50 (next day arrival) Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday (Monday to Friday from 6th February 2013)

 

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