Cheng Kit 0 Report post Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) I figured it was about time for a MAS 747-400 retirement thread. Here's the list: 9M-MHL - (Kuala Lumpur) to Kalitta Air as N741CK 9M-MHM - (Penang) to Kalitta Air as N740CK 9M-MHN - (Malacca) to Qantas as VH-OEC 9M-MHO - (Alor Setar) to Qantas as VH-OED 9M-MPA - (Ipoh) to Boeing as N718BA 9M-MPC - (Kuantan) to World Airways as N740WA 9M-MPE - (Kangar) (ex Singapore Airlines 9V-SPR) to World Airways as N741WA 9M-MPG - (Kuala Terengganu) (ex Air India as VT-AIS) to Pullmantur Air as EC-KXN 9M-MPH - (Langkawi) Parked at KLIA Edited June 12, 2009 by Cheng Kit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ignatius 4 Report post Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) Any further info of their estimated time for handover to new operator? Edited June 12, 2009 by Ignatius Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheng Kit 0 Report post Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) Any further info of their estimated time for handover to new operator? Check at Malaysia Airlines fleet at Wikipedia. Sources may be unreliable. Edited June 12, 2009 by Cheng Kit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waiping 12 Report post Posted June 12, 2009 Is MPA the new Dreamlifter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Suhaimi Fariz 2 Report post Posted June 12, 2009 9M-MHN - (Malacca) to Qantas as VH-OEC Just go to show that MAS was a scapegoat in that Qantas issue.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Teh 0 Report post Posted June 12, 2009 Is MPA the new Dreamlifter? Not sure if it started flying already. Last seen in conversion @ TPE close to 2 years ago. Anyone have info? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom/PER 0 Report post Posted June 12, 2009 Just go to show that MAS was a scapegoat in that Qantas issue.... Don't feel to bad LH teknik in Manila are the scapegoats according to the Australian media with the latest QF incident involving the JQ A333. It's seems easier to lay the blame at off-shore maintenance. -MPB and -MPD are shown are 'to be cargo converted' according to an online database, although with recent world events this may have changed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheng Kit 0 Report post Posted June 12, 2009 Those two former hibiscus planes. They are still flying with MH don't hope so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom/PER 0 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 This might be of interest a MH 777 for sale! 9M-MRD MSN 28411 is now listed as for Sale/Lease available April 2010. Total Time = 52048hrs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Azizul Ramli 2 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 I figured it was about time for a MAS 747-400 retirement thread. Here's the list: 9M-MHL - (Kuala Lumpur) to Kalitta Air as N741CK 9M-MHM - (Penang) to Kalitta Air as N740CK 9M-MHN - (Malacca) to Qantas as VH-OEC 9M-MHO - (Alor Setar) to Qantas as VH-OED 9M-MPA - (Ipoh) to Boeing as N718BA 9M-MPC - (Kuantan) to World Airways as N740WA 9M-MPE - (Kangar) (ex Singapore Airlines 9V-SPR) to World Airways as N741WA 9M-MPG - (Kuala Terengganu) (ex Air India as VT-AIS) to Pullmantur Air as EC-KXN 9M-MPH - (Langkawi) Parked at KLIA Something is not quite right with the thread starter. 9M-MHL - The B744 named (Kuala Lumpur) is 9M-MPQ 9M-MHM - The B744 named (Penang) is 9M-MPL 9M-MHN - The B744 named (Malacca) is 9M-MPM 9M-MHO - The B744 named (Alor Setar) is 9M-MPO 9M-MH* series aircraft appeared on 4 AB6s (9M-MHA until 9M-MHD), 2 B742s (9M-MHI and 9M-MHJ) and 1 B743 (9M-MHK), based on the wikipedia page of MH's Fleet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 (edited) Something is not quite right with the thread starter. 9M-MHL - The B744 named (Kuala Lumpur) is 9M-MPQ 9M-MHM - The B744 named (Penang) is 9M-MPL 9M-MHN - The B744 named (Malacca) is 9M-MPM 9M-MHO - The B744 named (Alor Setar) is 9M-MPO 9M-MH* series aircraft appeared on 4 AB6s (9M-MHA until 9M-MHD), 2 B742s (9M-MHI and 9M-MHJ) and 1 B743 (9M-MHK), based on the wikipedia page of MH's Fleet. The thread starter is absolutely right about the names of the MH 744. The 9M-MH* series -400 birds were GE powered. MH got rid of them by late 90s (non-Combis) and the two Combis were sold to Boeing early 2003, IIRC. The names of the GE powered are as listed at the start of this thread. Subsequently the names of KL, Penang, Melaka and Alor Setar were transferred to the PW powered 744 which MAS took delivery after they got rid of the GE powered birds. To make the matter more confusing MH's sole 743 was originally named "Kota Kinabalu" and the 2x 742 had some other city names. Again, the names were reshuffled as a result of the retrenchment of the GE powered 744. The 2x 742 became Kota Kinabalu and Kuching. If you search the photo database (A.net or JP.net), it will reveal all the history. Naturally, it has to be "Kuala Lumpur" first, when MH received their first 744. Now the last pax 744 (9M-MPQ) is named as Kuala Lumpur. However, we have yet to see any city names on the 2x new 744F to date. May be MH is getting sick of the game of naming their aircraft. Edited June 13, 2009 by S V Choong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Azizul Ramli 2 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 Thanks SV for the history lesson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 May be MH is getting sick of the game of naming their aircraft. Nobody in flight operations ever refer to an aircraft to its nose name, nor do any cabin crew that I know of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cornelis Boersma 0 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 This might be of interest a MH 777 for sale! 9M-MRD MSN 28411 is now listed as for Sale/Lease available April 2010. Total Time = 52048hrs. Whats your source? Unbelievable! 777 for sale... bad news. She was in AMS/EHAM today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alif A. F. 0 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 Too bad, the sale/lease is less than a year away Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohd Suhaimi Fariz 2 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 The thread starter is absolutely right about the names of the MH 744. The 9M-MH* series -400 birds were GE powered. MH got rid of them by late 90s (non-Combis) and the two Combis were sold to Boeing early 2003, IIRC. The names of the GE powered are as listed at the start of this thread. Subsequently the names of KL, Penang, Melaka and Alor Setar were transferred to the PW powered 744 which MAS took delivery after they got rid of the GE powered birds. To make the matter more confusing MH's sole 743 was originally named "Kota Kinabalu" and the 2x 742 had some other city names. Again, the names were reshuffled as a result of the retrenchment of the GE powered 744. The 2x 742 became Kota Kinabalu and Kuching. If you search the photo database (A.net or JP.net), it will reveal all the history. Naturally, it has to be "Kuala Lumpur" first, when MH received their first 744. Now the last pax 744 (9M-MPQ) is named as Kuala Lumpur. However, we have yet to see any city names on the 2x new 744F to date. May be MH is getting sick of the game of naming their aircraft. Why did they replace the GE planes with PW planes? Can't they just change the engines, rather than the planes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C.Foo 3 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 The 777 would be good for QF to start a european service wait 10 yers later for QF to have an incident with the plane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 (edited) There was a time, about a decade ago, that MH was in bad shape and need cash. They had a "sale and leaseback" program where MH-owned aircraft were sold and leased back for a specific time period. That was just before Penerbangan Malaysia Berhad was created to buy off MH assets. Therefore as of now some MH aircraft are owned by PMB, while others were owned by other companies such as SALE. The lease agreement is expiring an MH will pay the price of the damage done by previous management. Of the 4 GE-powered B744, 2 were combis. I believe the 2 sold to Qantas were the pure pax version. While it is physically possible to change the engine (GE to PW) there are many systems that need to be changed too, therefore it is not practical or cost-effective. Edited June 14, 2009 by Radzi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S V Choong 4 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 (edited) Why did they replace the GE planes with PW planes? Can't they just change the engines, rather than the planes? As Captain Radzi said it is not possible to only swapping the Engines on aircraft. At least it is NOT viable economically. IIRC Boeing designed the 787s to be engine swappable. There is also something to do with political deals and decision as to why MH switched from GE powered 744 to PW powered 744. 9M-MHI, B747-236B, spotted "Johor Bahru" in late 90s, became "Kota Kinabalu", She is currently with MASKargo as TF-AAA, after a brief stint as N361FC with Focus Air. 9M-MHJ, B747-236B, spotted "Kuching" in late 90s, remained "Kuching" before MAS sold her. She is currently with MASKargo as TF-AAB after a brief stint as N362FC with Focus Air. 9M-MHK, B747-3H6C, spotted as "Kota Kinabalu" 9M-MPK B747-4H6 became "Johor Bahru" since delivery. Edited June 14, 2009 by S V Choong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waiping 12 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 9M-MHI, B747-236B, spotted "Johor Bahru" in late 90s, became "Kota Kinabalu", She is currently with MASKargo as TF-AAA, after a brief stint as N361FC with Focus Air. 9M-MHJ, B747-236B, spotted "Kuching" in late 90s, remained "Kuching" before MAS sold her. She is currently with MASKargo as TF-AAB after a brief stint as N362FC with Focus Air. Effectively these 2 birds no longer belongs to MH but Air Atlanta Icelandic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karlm 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 Effectively these 2 birds no longer belongs to MH but Air Atlanta Icelandic? Yes these two are Air Atlanta aicraft now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheng Kit 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2009 Heard the 9M-MPI & 9M-MPJ is with Al Wafeer Air Some evidence of 9M-MPJ here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radzi 2 Report post Posted August 12, 2009 Cheng Kit, why do you copy and paste TK's photo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheng Kit 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2009 (edited) Cheng Kit, why do you copy and paste TK's photo? To show the evidence and I don't have the photos. But would those 2 planes be gone from MAS forever or a short term lease to Al Wafeer Air? Edited August 12, 2009 by Cheng Kit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter Sim 1 Report post Posted August 12, 2009 Cheng kit, it would be ethical that you acknowledge or provide the link where you got it from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites