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WELLINGTON, New Zealand (AFP) - - A woman who gave birth in mid-air left the baby behind when she disembarked in Auckland, Television New Zealand reported Thursday.



Police and Pacific Blue -- the airline which operated the flight from the Samoan capital Apia -- were saying little about their investigation Thursday, but mother and child were said to be recovering in hospital.


Television New Zealand reported that the Samoan woman gave birth in one of the aircraft's toilets during the flight to Auckland early Thursday.


The infant was found by an airline worker in the toilet rubbish bin more than an hour after the plane landed.


There was no suggestion any of the 150 passengers or crew were aware that the woman, reportedly aged 30, had borne a child in mid-air.


But the television station said authorities discovered something was wrong after she approached them saying she had misplaced her passport. They noticed she was pale and blood-stained.


A police spokeswoman said an investigation was underway, but police had not been able to speak to the woman because she was having surgery in hospital.


Pacific Blue's website says women need medical clearance to board a flight if they have passed the 36-week mark in their pregnancy.


"We are relieved to have been informed that both mother and child are reunited, are well and are now being looked after in hospital," the airline said in a statement.

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2nd question, can a big belly woman fit into the toilet? I can barely turn inside.

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the mother actually throw the child into the bin??

lol..no one realise the mother went into the toilet with a big belly and came out with a flat one??

It won't become flatten right after she gave birth. Probably why many people didn't notice. But she be one hell of a woman that she can still walk like usual after giving birth and losing so much blood :rolleyes:


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AK's T&C on carrying Pregnant Passengers



Pregnant Passengers: It is the duty of pregnant passengers to advise us of the progress of their pregnancy at the point of booking of Seat and at the check-in counter. Our carriage of pregnant passengers are subject to the following conditions:


Pregnancy up to 27 weeks (inclusive): we will accept without a doctor's certificate subject to the passenger signing a Limited Liability Statement.

Pregnancy between 28 weeks to 34 weeks (inclusive): passenger shall produce a doctor's certificate confirming the number of weeks of pregnancy and that she is fit to travel which certificate shall have validity of not more than seven (7) days from the scheduled flight departure date. The passenger will be required to sign a Limited Liability Statement.

Pregnancy 35 weeks and above: we will refuse carriage.


Could it be a premature delivery...to think that the baby actually survived the bin...tsk tsk tsk...what was she thinking!

Edited by Kenneth Chong WT

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1 question : Can a big belly pregnant woman board an aircraft?

If you have ever been to the Pacific Islands or met anyone who came from the Pacific Island, you won't be surprised by this.

There is quite a percentage of women and men from the Islands are quite big in size. A place where they find fat women attractive rather than skinny ones.


It is sometimes pretty hard to tell whether the big women are pregnant or not!


I suspect the aircraft might have been ZK-PBF in Polynesian Blue livery.

Edited by S V Choong

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Woman who had baby on Auckland flight 'ruins Samoa's good name'

10:13AM Wednesday Mar 25, 2009

by Cherelle Jackson


When the incident of the Samoan mother on the Pacific Blue flight hit the shores of the fairly peaceful Samoa, what swept through the nation was a mixture of shock, sheer curiosity and embarrassment.


News people in Samoa called the incident an 'international embarrassment,' saying the incident had ruined the good name of Samoa.


The editor of the Samoa Observer, Keni Ramese-Lesa, wrote a day after the incident: "This international embarrassment would never have happened if the systems we have in place were working. For instance, aren't people like this woman required to undergo a full medical check-up before being given the okay to be part of such schemes?"


Discussion forums on the Newsline Samoa newspaper have been overwhelmed by people outraged at the incident, because it gives Samoa a bad name.


"How embarrassing!!! How could she? What was she thinking? She thought she would get away with it?" Atinae wrote on Samoalivenews.com.


Coffee shops and the women's committee buzzed with exaggerated stories of the incident, trying to figure out where the woman comes from, her family and any other gossip worthy details.


The CEO of the Ministry of Health, Tupuimatagi Palanitina Toelupe, has already reaffirmed that travelling at seven months term is not a good idea.


Those who processed the woman's papers are pointing fingers, and some just not talking, as they try to figure out exactly who or where they went wrong.


The prime minister's department has yet to issue a statement.


The New Zealand Immigration office in Samoa has remained behind closed doors.


What is perhaps interesting about all of this is that the locals are not shocked the woman left her baby in a rubbish bin, but rather that she did it outside of Samoa, and on a plane.


A comment by a friend put this into perspective.


The friend, a 24-year-old waitress, says: "I can't believe she had the guts to do it outside of Samoa, really."


Sadly, the incident is one that is repeated often in Samoa.


In my career as a news reporter I have reported on numerous cases of newborn babies being abandoned at birth.


The common theme amongst the cases are the disregard for whether the baby lived or not.


Among the cases are two of newborns in plastic bags, one newborn wrapped in a blanket in the bush and another thrown in a river and left for dead.


In most of the cases the babies end up dying before they were found.


So when the Samoan woman left her baby aboard the rubbish bin of the Pacific Blue flight and survived, I personally breathed easy.


The common theme amongst those who have freely expressed opinions in Samoa about this case is finding someone to blame and berating the woman for her 'stupidity' and 'ignorance.'


What could have been a joyful incident on board the Pacific Blue flight from Samoa turned into a very sad incident.


This incident occurs often enough to warrant a shift in the mind frame of Samoan society.


I am neither an anthropologist nor a sociologist, but I know the pressures that face the Samoan woman today.


For an advanced society, bearing a fatherless child is still viewed as a 'shame' and the expectations imposed on a Samoan tamaitai (woman) to adhere to matrimony before bearing a child is not only unfair but unrealistic.


So in the process of trying to defend the pride of their families, those who do abandon their babies do the opposite by 'shaming' their families with such blatant disregard for human life.


The actions of this one Samoa woman suggest that something is certainly amiss in Paradise.




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For an advanced society, bearing a fatherless child is still viewed as a 'shame' and the expectations imposed on a Samoan tamaitai (woman) to adhere to matrimony before bearing a child is not only unfair but unrealistic

This is immensely intriguing :blink:

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