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This story was carried by Berita Harian, could not find English version. Basically confirming earlier discussion here about a new LCCT to be built on the present open-air carpark near KLIA MTB. Cost is RM1.7bil, to be ready 2010, can handle 25mil passengers per year.

 

 

 

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Berita Harian

22/7/07

 

LCCT baru RM1.7b di KLIA siap 2010

Oleh Abdul Halim Yusoff

 

KUALA LUMPUR: Terminal baru syarikat penerbangan tambang murah (LCCT) serba canggih dan selesa bernilai RM1.7 bilion akan dibina di Lapangan Terbang Antarabangsa KL (KLIA) bagi menggantikan LCCT sedia ada yang semakin sesak.

 

Sumber berkata, LCCT lengkap dan menawarkan kemudahan lebih selesa kepada penumpang dan syarikat penerbangan, akan dibina di atas tapak bersebelahan kawasan meletak kereta tidak berbumbung KLIA dan dijangka siap menjelang 2010.

 

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http://www.bharian.com.my/m/BHarian/Sunday...092156/Article/

 

This is the first post on this thread - so it looks like the media, public, airlines, government, etc. have all been conned by MAHB!

 

klia2 is now officially stated as not a replacement for LCCT by its new CEO.

 

Good job MAHB!

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Taxpayers may not fund MAHB directly but MAHB have privileges that non-GLC couldn't enjoy e.g. MAHB sukuk, bonds coupon rate is Malaysia sovereign rate.

 

Hmm.. MAHB enjoys Malaysian sovereign rate? OK... I didn't know this.

 

 

Flee, of course that was the initial plan, before all the "changes". But anyway, maybe you can point out where exactly MAHB announced klia2 as an LCCT? Perhaps I am unaware as all the material I've seen has never mentioned this?

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KLIA 2 to start with 10 airlines in May 2013

Luc Citrinot - 17 September 2012, 11:59
KUALA LUMPUR- The new Low-Cost Carrier (LCC) Terminal, KLIA 2 in Sepang, is set to host 10 frills-free airlines once it is operational in May 2013, says Faizal Mansor, Chief Financial Officer of Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB). He said the airport operator is still open to welcome more airlines to use KLIA 2, as the airport is capable of serving 45 million passengers per year.
He added that KLIA 2 is designed to accommodate all types of airlines, but it is best suited for airlines with low-cost business model.
"Once the airport is operational in May 2013, MAHB will have almost 10 low-cost carriers flying from there. Among them are Zest Airways, Lion Air, Tiger Airways, Cebu Pacific Air and definitely, AirAsia.
"We would love to welcome more airlines to KLIA 2. Five years ago, there were only five low-cost carriers but now there are about 30 to 40 budget carriers," Faizal told Bernama in an interview.
He said the latest to join the group of airlines is Malindo Airways, which was introduced on Tuesday, through an Indonesian-Malaysian joint-venture between National Aerospace and Defence Industries Sdn Bhd (NADI) and PT Lion Air Group. On Malindo Airways, Faizal said MAHB will commence detailed discussion with the new budget carrier soon, particularly on the level of space and facilities that it needs at the new airport.
KLIA2 94% complete, on track to meet May 2, 2014 deadline
Posted on 17 October 2013 - 05:40am
SEPANG (Oct 17, 2013): KLIA2, the new low-cost carrier terminal here, is 94% completed and on track to meet its May 2, 2014 deadline, Deputy Transport Minister Datuk Abdul Aziz Kaprawi said, even as he remained non-committal on the final pricetag of the development which has already doubled since inception.
"This terminal is being financed by Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) privately. Based on their commercial decision, as long as it is viable there should be no problem. What's more important is we want to complete the airport on time," he told reporters at the presentation of certificates of recognition and commercial fit out guidelines to KLIA2 retailers here yesterday.
To date, the ministry and MAHB have committed to a cost of some RM4 billion for the new terminal.
Abdul Aziz said while, overall, KLIA2 is 94% completed, the main terminal building is 99% completed.
"The development progress is on track. We're very sure that by May 2 next year, it will be fully operational," he said.
MAHB COO Datuk Abd Hamid Mohd Ali said what is left to be completed are finishing works and the final layers of the taxiway pavement.
KLIA2 is constructed with one of the highest percentage of retail space offered by any commercial airport in the world. About 12% of gross floor area is dedicated to customer fronting commercial offerings, of which 60% of total commercial offerings have been earmarked for retail. The remaining 40% is for food and beverage (F&B).

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Flee, of course that was the initial plan, before all the "changes". But anyway, maybe you can point out where exactly MAHB announced klia2 as an LCCT? Perhaps I am unaware as all the material I've seen has never mentioned this?

Yes, changes like aerobridges, etc. that were added late in the construction phases....

 

All MAHB needed to do was to correct media reports (like the one in BH above) and government ministers' statements. Even the title of this thread is wrong! I don't recall MAHB stating that these reports are incorrect.

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Other than the fact that MAHB is ~37% owned by Khazanah, I wonder why everyone keeps mentioning that klia2 is being funded by taxpayers? Hoping for some enlightenment.

If you're seeking something along line of "..... saya, kerajaan Negara Malaysia, bagi pihak Rakyat Malaysia, ....." class of enlightenment, I imagine it may be a tad elusive somehow

As they say, always two ways to skin a cat (at least two anyway) :D

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KLIA 2 to start with 10 airlines in May 2013

Luc Citrinot - 17 September 2012, 11:59

 

http://www.traveldailynews.asia/news/article/50416/klia-2-to-start-with

 

KUALA LUMPUR- The new Low-Cost Carrier (LCC) Terminal, KLIA 2 in Sepang, is set to host 10 frills-free airlines once it is operational in May 2013, says Faizal Mansor, Chief Financial Officer of Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB). He said the airport operator is still open to welcome more airlines to use KLIA 2, as the airport is capable of serving 45 million passengers per year.

 

He added that KLIA 2 is designed to accommodate all types of airlines, but it is best suited for airlines with low-cost business model.

 

"Once the airport is operational in May 2013, MAHB will have almost 10 low-cost carriers flying from there. Among them are Zest Airways, Lion Air, Tiger Airways, Cebu Pacific Air and definitely, AirAsia.

 

"We would love to welcome more airlines to KLIA 2. Five years ago, there were only five low-cost carriers but now there are about 30 to 40 budget carriers," Faizal told Bernama in an interview.

 

He said the latest to join the group of airlines is Malindo Airways, which was introduced on Tuesday, through an Indonesian-Malaysian joint-venture between National Aerospace and Defence Industries Sdn Bhd (NADI) and PT Lion Air Group. On Malindo Airways, Faizal said MAHB will commence detailed discussion with the new budget carrier soon, particularly on the level of space and facilities that it needs at the new airport.

 

KLIA2 94% complete, on track to meet May 2, 2014 deadline

Posted on 17 October 2013 - 05:40am

 

http://www.thesundaily.my/news/857710

 

 

SEPANG (Oct 17, 2013): KLIA2, the new low-cost carrier terminal here, is 94% completed and on track to meet its May 2, 2014 deadline, Deputy Transport Minister Datuk Abdul Aziz Kaprawi said, even as he remained non-committal on the final pricetag of the development which has already doubled since inception.

 

"This terminal is being financed by Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) privately. Based on their commercial decision, as long as it is viable there should be no problem. What's more important is we want to complete the airport on time," he told reporters at the presentation of certificates of recognition and commercial fit out guidelines to KLIA2 retailers here yesterday.

 

To date, the ministry and MAHB have committed to a cost of some RM4 billion for the new terminal.

 

Abdul Aziz said while, overall, KLIA2 is 94% completed, the main terminal building is 99% completed.

 

"The development progress is on track. We're very sure that by May 2 next year, it will be fully operational," he said.

 

MAHB COO Datuk Abd Hamid Mohd Ali said what is left to be completed are finishing works and the final layers of the taxiway pavement.

 

KLIA2 is constructed with one of the highest percentage of retail space offered by any commercial airport in the world. About 12% of gross floor area is dedicated to customer fronting commercial offerings, of which 60% of total commercial offerings have been earmarked for retail. The remaining 40% is for food and beverage (F&B).

Thank you. Both these articles answered my queries.

 

The first article clearly states in the second paragraph that the terminal is to cater to all airlines.

 

While the second article also states that MAHB has privately funded the terminal.

 

Hope this clarifies :)

 

Anyway, no matter how I explain matters factually, most of you just want to believe what you want to believe. So I will just leave this discussion closed :)

Edited by jani

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What is the "actual fact" we are talking about?

 

I said MAHB never declared klia2 as a low-cost terminal.

 

How is this against any actual fact?

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True, it was never declared as low cost, the bloated budget over time has borne testament to that :)

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True, it was never declared as low cost, the bloated budget over time has borne testament to that :)

If klia2 gets too expensive for LCCs, there is a real need for a low cost terminal or airport after all...

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Is there an award for LCC airport/terminal for 2016?

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klia2 MAINTENANCE PROGRESS


18 July 2016

In this June report series, we are pleased to share that the special maintenance programme at klia2 is now at 69% completion. Another three locations were completed in June which accumulated to 27 out of 39 locations planned for 2016.


The progressive maintenance has resulted in a significant improvement in incident of soil depressions and reduced the occurrence of ponding at klia2. Grouting injection remains the method of choice as it provides less disruption to the terminal operations.


It is our hope that by sharing this information, the public will have greater understanding of the actual situation and not be influenced by speculation. The infographic reports are available at www.malaysiaairports.com.my and our official social media platform – Malaysia Airports (Facebook), @MY_Airports (Twitter) and Malaysia Airports (Instagram).


Malaysia Airports continues to collaborate closely with all our stakeholders to ensure that all parties such as airlines and DCA constantly engaged on operational issues.


We remain committed to ensure the safety of airport operations at all our airports.



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Flight delays due to ruptured airport fuel line

SEPANG, 11 October 2016 - AirAsia X would like to inform all guests travelling today from Malaysia's KLIA2 to expect delays due to a ruptured airport fuel line.

The rupture prevents aircraft from refuelling at all P bay gates at the airport.

The incident occurred during maintenance work by Malaysia Airports Holdings Berhad (MAHB).

A total of 4,564 guests on 14 AirAsia X flights departing between 6.00pm today and 1.00am tomorrow morning will be affected.

For further information and assistance, please contact AirAsia through the following channels:

1. Live Chat at http://www.airasia.com/my/en/live-chat.page

2. E-form at https://eform.airasia.com/

AirAsia X sincerely apologises for any inconvenience caused.

 

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A quick look on FR24 shows that it's not so bad. D7222 to SYD departed just slightly half an hour behind schedule while their 550 to CTS departed slightly more than an hour late.

BTW EK342 is just making its approach to KUL now, close to 4 hours late. Wonder what happened in DXB

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It seems at certain period, there is a shortage of widebody parking bay at KLIA2; AK wet lease XT A333 pax need to board aircraft by stair like the old days.

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It seems at certain period, there is a shortage of widebody parking bay at KLIA2; AK wet lease XT A333 pax need to board aircraft by stair like the old days.

 

Lots of bay closures in the odd P/Q bays by MAB due to repairing works for the fuel line rupture a week or two ago.

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Lots of bay closures in the odd P/Q bays by MAB due to repairing works for the fuel line rupture a week or two ago.

 

Is this new cases of pipe rupture or the old one?

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Is this new cases of pipe rupture or the old one?

 

October 11th. A few bay closures after that so i think they're fixing the ruptured lines.

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MAHB should stop spinning over KLIA, klia2

 

From CY Ming
On Nov 2, Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) extended a welcoming hand to airlines that planned to utilise either Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA) or klia2.
As advantages at klia2 would be reduced or removed from January next year, AirAsia began talks with MAHB to relocate its operations to KLIA, but again faced a stonewall, no thanks to doublespeak by MAHB.
In an about-turn on Nov 10, MAHB Managing Director Badlisham Ghazali disclosed that KLIA has reached almost full capacity during the peak hours and AirAsia can only move some of its operations there.
He was reported to have said “KLIA’s capacity is already reaching its maximum now. AirAsia can only move during the non-peak periods, for example from 10am to noon. But during the peak hours (6am to 10am), it would be impossible to accommodate AirAsia.”
He also said: “It also does not look good for Malaysia if the airport allows hybrid/low-cost carriers to mix with first class/business class carriers.”
If so, why was he so gung-ho earlier in offering airlines to choose KLIA or klia2?
MAHB had fought hard to increase the passenger service charge (PSC) at klia2 to match that of KLIA, forgetting that the former was meant as a low-cost carrier terminal.
But due to construction costs which had ballooned, so now MAHB is trying to recoup its investment by raising the PSC at passengers’ expense.
Since there will no differentiation in PSC, it was no surprise that AirAsia chose to move to KLIA so that its passengers get the best value for money.
Clearly, MAHB had mixed up the award winning KLIA with klia2, which is a replacement of the former Low-Cost Carrier Terminal (LCCT), by insisting that PSC for both should be the same.
Now it has the audacity to tell airlines not to get mixed up over the two terminals.

 

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Though I feel the fare difference between KLIA and KLIA2 is too wide, there should still be a difference between the two. Otherwise, it really defeat the purpose of KLIA2. Don't know what the government is thinking..

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This is what happens when there is zero accountability. Due to monopoly and a government that is bankrupt, MAHB is actually operating on a zero risk environment. Build and spend whatever you want and if things don't work out, the passengers and airlines can pay for it.

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Though I feel the fare difference between KLIA and KLIA2 is too wide, there should still be a difference between the two. Otherwise, it really defeat the purpose of KLIA2. Don't know what the government is thinking..

If that's the case, then those flying out of LGK are being ripped off because they have to brave the weather and walk on the tarmac, and pay up to RM30 more than someone flying out of the new KUL T2.

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