Arthur Lee

Thanks T Azahan. The problem is not with AK, but rather with some posters here. Quite a "culture shock" if you ask me. My other "home" is a global FF site where I have been posting for more than 5 years, and I feel much more comfortable there though there's very little discussion on Msian aviation scene.

And you feel its perfectly alright for you to make rude remarks like this, after all those preaching. Should I give you a taste of my "attitude" ?

Most Balinese are Hindus.

I thought they do, maybe Radzi could comment.

Walter, please read through all the posts and judge for yourself who started the "attack" and who started "name-calling". I merely made a cheeky remark that TF taked nonsense since he is magnanimous enough to encourage his staff to say so. And see what I got in return ? And while you guys are emphasizing the right to have your own thoughts, I was being flamed for having a different opinion. You guys were so emotional in supporting that poster that you didnt even notice the amount of "rubbish" he was posting, seems like you guys are ruled by your heart rather than by your mind. Yes, I am waiting for the Administrator to tell me to leave. In the meantime, I have as much right to be here as everyone else have. And I dont think everyone posts rubbish here, there are a few very knowledgeable posters here though not on this thread. I am here to seek knowledge from them but will gladly leave when told to do so. If MalaysianWings prides itself on being a happy environment based on posting false information, this is definitely not the forum for me. ........... with correct facts please

Are you really a fresh graduate ? Actually I do find your posts to be quite informative and sensible, the best of the lot up there. While I may not agree with some of your opinions, I also note that you did not post "rubbish" like what a particular poster did and the herd mentality of the other posters supporting him/her. I can accept differences of opinion, but please get the facts right first and not make things up like what that particular poster did. I can accept opinions like TF is a handsome guy, but pleased dont tell me TF is Swedish; get what I mean ? As I have said before I am here to tap on the knowledge of pilots and FF, but I do find it very annoying when you have people who has no knowledge on a particular subject posting false and misleading facts eg the MAS supersaver scheme. That poster had apparently not even travelled on MH domestically (dont know what meal service he is talking about in Y), and even when I corrected him he kept coming back with more "rubbish". And while he is trying to impress us with his knowledge of the Australian aviation scene, he didnt even know which airlines fly between Aust and US, and giving us false information that QF has a monopoly. And the best part is his emphasis on the right to have a monopoly, I nearly fell off my chair laughing !

AFAIK the directive was sell only full-Y fare and above. I am sure this would hit you in the face .... Quote from MAS media release dated 16 March 2006 : We have also been asked by the Government to cease our 'Supersavers' scheme from Monday next week. The scheme was to cater for low sales period and targeted at a unique customer segment who want low price and 'value-for-money' offer. We have been assured that the losses incurred by its cessation will be borne by the Government. We would like to assure our customers that we will honour all the sales we have made todate under this scheme. http://hq.malaysiaairlines.com/mh/eng/abou...CA-661AA32990CD Its seems MH will incur losses due to the cessation of the Supersavers scheme OMG I cant believe what I am reading. In the developed world there are various legislations prohibiting monopoly of any kind. I can almost hear TF laughing in the background..... What has a firm's profit got to do with whether the CEO "talks rubbish" or not ? There are plenty of CEOs talking rubbish out there and they are making big profits, infact the more "rubbish" the more profit ! Not true. Apart from QF, UA and NZ also fly the Aust-US route And if you are a mileage junkie, you can even fly SQ,CX,TG or MH Oh ok, I am impressed you know what MSA stands for; and I am sorry I didnt get my facts right because you do know what it stands for Yes, you do have some "knowledge" but you didnt know what the term "sarcastic" means ! No, I have never flown Ryanair and I dont intend to fly them. I usually fly BA in Europe, why fly Ryanair when BA fares are so cheap and you dont have to go to some obscure airport in the middle of nowhere. I am sorry I dont get your point here. I have repeatedly said that I was not asking AK to increase their recline, just that AK had the worst recline I have ever experienced. I am sorry I am not "privileged" enough to fly Ryanair if that makes you happy Hhmm resorting to name-calling eh Ok let me show you what being a snob is all about : Sandeep, its ok to call me a snob because I can afford to be a snob. Question is whether you can even be one ! You see while some people have to sit on the floor in the LCC terminal, others sits in the Golden Lounge and sip champagne. And you know why I enjoy flying in First/Biz on a B737, of all aircrafts ? Its because while I enjoy my guava juice, guys like you have to walk past my cabin and can only envy my seat. But wait, you are flying AK and you are boarding that red aircraft at the warehouse they call LCC terminal. Nevermind, if you promise to behave I will bring you into the Golden Lounge one of these days. OK, thats very cruel and I apologise to all readers offended by the above, except to that guy who called me a snob Oh ok, I am impressed you know what MSA stands for; and I didnt get my facts right because you do know what it stands for Yes, you do have some "knowledge" but do you know what the term "sarcastic remark" means

Does AK serve alcohol on board ?

According to Amadeus, MH1447 on 3rd June with departure at 12.30pm is a A332. Unfortunately, its unlikely for a Saturday 9.30 pm evening flight to be a widebody. Redeeming your miles on LGK-KUL in Y seems to be quite a waste of miles. You may find better value using it for an upgrade etc but if you are not travelling anywhere else then its better than losing it. BTW you can also extend the validity of your miles for a small fee.

Possibly, the last time I was on an Airbus on this route was 2 yrs ago. Most of the time it was a B737-400. Thanks for correcting me.

First of all let me clarify that I am not anti-TF or anti-AK, though AK is definitely not my airline of choice and I avoid flying AK whenever possible. I do admire TF's business acumen though I dont idolise him blindly like how some of you do. Infact I agree with everything he said in the AWSJ article posted above, especially on the "Yes Sir" mentality in our society as is evident even on this thread. Whenever someone who is rich & famous says something, everyone seems to believe him outright without even thinking. FACT NO 1 MH was instructed not to sell domestic supersaver fares. It was not a voluntary move, and they know their load would drop drastically if they could only sell full-fare Y. MH is currently appealing against this directive. FACT NO 2 AK has been making profits on their Malaysian operations even when MH was allowed to sell domestic Supersaver fares. Do checkout their P&L account and tell me if I am wrong. Where do you think their profits came from ? Thailand ? AK is only trying to enhance their profits by eliminating MH's domestic Supersaver fares. FACT NO 3 How is MH going to fill up all their seats with the currents full-fares ? Do you know that with the current Y fares, its more expensive to fly MH (domestically) than QF for the same distance eventhough the cost of doing business is 2-3 times higher in Australia. FACT NO 4 MH does not serve meals in Y for domestic flights within Peninsula Malaysia, not even coffee/tea or a packet of peanuts (used to) . You only get water, orange juice or cold milo. Goodness, dont you ever fly any airline other than AK ! FACT NO 5 Not sure what you meant by "out of context" ? Beyond any "cooperation" they must be some form of competition. Even codeshare partners compete with each other on the same aircraft ! Both MH and AK are answerable to their shareholders. If AK is allowed to sell fares to LGK for MYR1, why cant MH sell their fares to LGK for MYR100 ? Conventional airline and budget airlines fares overlap, econ fares and biz fares overlap, biz fares and first fares over lap. Similarly budget airline fares and train fares overlap, train fares and bus fares overlap. Should AK be prevented to sell their MYR1 or MYR10 fares because its cheaper than KTM or NICE coach fares ? Seems to me you care more for AK's profit than the consumer/flying public. I can understand it coming from TF but you made it sound as if thats the way it should be. Most countries would encourage competition , ever heard of the anti-competition commission ? FACT NO 6 Virgin Blue is a budget airlines just like Air Asia ! MH vs AK and QF vs DJ are fair comparisons. What "premium" are you talking about ? Tell that to an Aussie FF ! FACT NO 7 Because MH is not allowed to sell domestic supersaver fares, MH's fares to LGK,HKT and DPS are now quite similar. The cheapest "base" return fares for these destinations are : 1) LGK (no meal service) : MYR 410 2) HKT (full meal service) : MYR 400 3) DPS (full meal service) : MYR 450 LGK used to be a "cheap" destination, but look at how ridiculous the fares are now. Alright, HKT and DPS being international destinations have higher airport taxes and surcharges which still made them more expensive to fly to than LGK. However, I can still remember the days when flying to DPS and HKT costs 3-5 times more than to LGK. MY OTHER RESPONSES I dont suppose you know what I mean by "weekend break" ? Sorry I am not as "cheap" as that though I still take econ for short flights. I am there to relax, not spend hours driving and taking the ferry. When did I ever say I expect AK to provide seats that recline more ? What I said was that an airline with seats that reclined more is more important to me than one with a CEO helping me with my luggage. BTW AK has the worst recline of all budget airlines I have flown. While I agree that it would motivate his staff and I applaud him for his efforts , TF is also very PR-savy. In any event, most owner-CEO (especially those who started from scratch) would not hesitate to dirty their hands, just that you dont read about them. Lets not forget it was only 3 years ago that AK had only 2 aircraft or something, and TF has been doing this since . You do it because you want to know what is going on at the "factory floor" i.e. to be hands-on. It sounds so silly to me when you guys say " Hey its so cool, Tony is helping me with my luggage Anyone of you ever received a reply letter from Richard Branson ? MY VERDICT I dont mean to sound like a snob but you guys really amazes me with your lack of knowledge . I have been flying since the days of MSA (if any of you even know what it stands for) and I came here looking to tap on the knowledge of pilots, enthusiasts and frequent flyers. What I got are posters who are not even aware of what is taking place in the Malaysian aviation scene (refer Fact No 1 above) but claiming to be experts. I have been interviewing fresh graduates over the last 10-15 years, and its so sad to see the lack of "substance" in our fresh graduates these days. Guys, do remember to post here when you made it to be the next "Tony" !

You can check the aircraft type on MH's website, look for schedule and it will also show aircraft type. However, this may not be 100% accurate as there may be last minute equipment change. You can also check on Amadeus website. The most common aircraft used is B737-400, and during "peak hours" on certain days you may also see the A320. With the discontinuation of the LHR-LGK-KUL service, we wont be seeing anymore B747-400.

Thats actually quite insulting to SQ, maybe you should have worded it as " SQ is twice as efficient as MH" IMO, SQ is about 10-20 times more efficient !

My respect goes to those who talk sense and not assume everyone is and10t. Admittedly, Tony is not the only M'sian CEO who talks rubbish and gets away with it. I am also surprised so many are taken in by gimmick like Tony helping you with your luggage. I for one would appreciate an extra inch of seat recline rather than be part of a gimmick, but then I guess many of you feel privileged to meet a latok..... My message is to Tony, not to you. You dont have to agree with my opinion. If you feel that "I am talking rubbish", prove your point with facts and figures.Please dont be another Tony ........ And how have you contributed positively to the discussion ? The sad part is many people here and the decision makers actually believed him ........... I have stopped flying to Langkawi for my weekend breaks since MH fares are so expensive now. I go to Phuket and Bali instead.

Good one